08:39:04 <br-m> <syntheticbird> we have mainnet, stagenet, testnet and now stressnet. How about doomsnet? beyond stressing it, it is meant to make remote peers' computers catch fire and explode.
09:41:59 <br-m> <helene:unredacted.org> lithiumnet
11:29:15 <br-m> <monoid.cat:matrix.org> hi
11:29:15 <br-m> <monoid.cat:matrix.org> I'm a pure math student looking for something to work on :)
11:29:15 <br-m> <monoid.cat:matrix.org> interests: distributed systems, algorithms, cryptography
11:29:15 <br-m> <monoid.cat:matrix.org> [... more lines follow, see https://mrelay.p2pool.observer/e/ytjs9bkKZjJ3cVFM ]
11:29:48 <br-m> <helene:unredacted.org> monerod is all C++, monero-oxide is still very much in development and rust
11:30:19 <br-m> <helene:unredacted.org> i'm sure you can get pointers for stuff on monero-oxide and cuprate
11:30:54 <br-m> <monoid.cat:matrix.org> @monoid.cat:matrix.org: since this is my first message here: hi to all fbi, nsa, interpol, europol etc agents :)
11:30:54 <br-m> <monoid.cat:matrix.org> I'm just looking for some intellectual puzzles for myself and not a criminal <3
11:32:23 <br-m> <monoid.cat:matrix.org> @helene:unredacted.org: hm
11:32:23 <br-m> <monoid.cat:matrix.org> didn't find anything about the first one, and the latter seems to be just rust bindings, correct?
11:32:39 <sech1> If you have interest in cryptography, I recommend to look into FCMP++  which is the next big upgrade for Monero
11:32:56 <sech1> https://github.com/seraphis-migration/monero/releases/tag/v0.19.0.0-alpha.1
11:33:09 <br-m> <helene:unredacted.org> monerod is the main implementation on monero-project/monero, monero-oxide is rust bindings but i believe there is an intention to reimplement things eventually
11:33:24 <br-m> <helene:unredacted.org> and cuprate is a monerod reimplementation in rust
11:33:28 <sech1> IIRC, FCMP++ code is Rust
11:33:30 <br-m> <syntheticbird> hi there, there are great excitement i think into receiving someone new willing to work on mainly theoretical fields. You might look into FCMP++ as the next protocol being worked on, or otherwise discuss with @rucknium:monero.social which makes statistical studies of various topics of the monero network or protocol
11:33:57 <br-m> <syntheticbird> im too late
11:34:06 <br-m> <monoid.cat:matrix.org> @helene:unredacted.org: yeah I'm more interested in actual math than coding itself :(
11:34:08 <br-m> <syntheticbird> yeah sech1, fcmp++ library is rust
11:34:11 <br-m> <monoid.cat:matrix.org> sech1: thx!
11:34:34 <br-m> <helene:unredacted.org> @syntheticbird: unsurprising for an inter-euro-fbi-nsa-pol agent.....
11:34:41 <br-m> <monoid.cat:matrix.org> @syntheticbird: thank u
11:34:45 <br-m> <syntheticbird> @helene:unredacted.org: real
11:34:54 <sech1> The actual math is here https://github.com/kayabaNerve/fcmp-plus-plus-paper
11:35:46 <br-m> <helene:unredacted.org> i believe zero to monero also brings up a bunch of the base theory for how monero currently works? but it's been a long time, there's probably newer/less outdated resources
11:36:01 <sech1> https://web.getmonero.org/library/Zero-to-Monero-2-0-0.pdf
11:36:05 <sech1> yes, but it's a bit outdated
11:36:47 <br-m> <helene:unredacted.org> i hope it will get updated, especially with FCMP++  coming eventually :)
11:36:50 <br-m> <helene:unredacted.org> it's such a good resource
11:37:08 <br-m> <syntheticbird> @helene:unredacted.org: I brought the topic of a formal protocol documentation after hard fork
11:37:29 <br-m> <syntheticbird> so maybe not in the form of a zero to monero update, but something else, that is still more up to date
11:38:03 <br-m> <syntheticbird> btw @monoid.cat:matrix.org you might want to visit https://monero-book.cuprate.org/
11:38:10 <br-m> <helene:unredacted.org> i feel something like zero to monero is really useful because it brings you up from nothing, with the entire view of what's going on; it's a great introduction to everything
11:38:14 <br-m> <monoid.cat:matrix.org> is cryptonote whitepaper a prerequisite? Haven't read it yet > <@helene:unredacted.org> i believe zero to monero also brings up a bunch of the base theory for how monero currently works? but it's been a long time, there's probably newer/less outdated resources
11:38:22 <br-m> <helene:unredacted.org> very useful for onboarding :)
11:38:36 <br-m> <helene:unredacted.org> @monoid.cat:matrix.org: i think nowadays not so much? but it would help you make more sense of some terminology
11:39:02 <br-m> <syntheticbird> im not sure cryptonote is relevant anymore
11:43:49 <sech1> Not relevant since RingCT and RandomX (both are not a part of cryptonote)
12:32:37 <br-m> <syntheticbird> for irc, the newcomer just the left this room
12:33:02 <br-m> <syntheticbird> https://mrelay.p2pool.observer/m/monero.social/jUYbmXnHjTASBvlfIjpsSrVh.png (carrotAddressGeneration.png)
12:33:11 <br-m> <syntheticbird> @jeffro256:monero.social is this schema the rectified one?
12:42:38 <DataHoarder> that's a good schema
16:07:29 <br-m> <jeffro256> @syntheticbird: Yup!
17:37:28 <br-m> <kayabanerve:matrix.org> @helene:unredacted.org: monero-oxide isn't bindings and is a reimplementation.
19:16:11 <br-m> <helene:unredacted.org> ah, so that's what i thought, but i was fooled!
19:16:12 <br-m> <helene:unredacted.org> thanks for the confirmation :)
19:36:54 <br-m> <kayabanerve:matrix.org> I mean, years ago it was a monero-rs wrapper and did bind the C++ for some things, but yearssss ago
19:37:02 <br-m> <kayabanerve:matrix.org> It's become its own, incredibly healthy ecosystem :)
19:39:13 <br-m> <helene:unredacted.org> and it's a good thing to see alternative implementations :)
19:40:08 <br-m> <kayabanerve:matrix.org> Yep, it's caught a lot within the Monero protocol and promoted a lot of improvements!
19:40:41 <br-m> <kayabanerve:matrix.org> (Not to say the Monero protocol had critical issues caught by this, just to say taking a second look from scratch identified a lot of topics)
19:41:45 <br-m> <helene:unredacted.org> you always find out some bugs and undocumented things doing something like that