14:28:49 <br-m> <elongated:matrix.org> What’s the timeline for fcmp++ testnet/mainnet ?
14:29:34 <br-m> <elongated:matrix.org> EoQ2 testnet ?
14:55:08 <DataHoarder> we still need to have the next beta stressnet, and alpha one has gone for longer than estimated (while handling other found issues not intrinsic to FCMP++, just old monero ones)
15:19:08 <br-m> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> I imagine beta stressnet will finish with "production quality" sw, which will be deployed on testnet
15:19:43 <br-m> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Changes after that would probably be issues found by the greater ecosystem while adapting their software for the hardfork
15:20:00 <br-m> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> What i mean is, testnet will be more like a release candidate
15:21:56 <br-m> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> I dont see testnet being an overly long period, and i honestly dont see a reason for longer than 2 month lead-in after setting hard fork dates for mainnet. Especially with supportxmr having 88% (/s) of the global hashrate, we only need 1 mining pool to fork for the majority of security
15:23:23 <br-m> <elongated:matrix.org> Still any eta on timeline? Like is everything needed for fcmp++ is already coded?
15:23:40 <DataHoarder> FCMP++ is working 
15:24:09 <DataHoarder> plumbing to external utilities, details, proofs, wallet commands and stuff like that is what's left, and performance
15:24:37 <br-m> <elongated:matrix.org> DataHoarder: Yes the needed things for next hf
15:24:45 <br-m> <elongated:matrix.org> Even ramdomxv2
15:24:51 <DataHoarder> but v2 is not done lol
15:24:56 <DataHoarder> https://github.com/seraphis-migration/monero/issues/166
15:25:11 <DataHoarder> https://github.com/seraphis-migration/monero/issues/53
15:25:21 <DataHoarder> respectively TODO list for beta stressnet, TODO list for launch
15:25:51 <DataHoarder> many of these were done or are in PRs and are not marked done on the checklist
15:28:23 <br-m> <elongated:matrix.org> Carrot and relayv2 are done ?
15:30:10 <DataHoarder> see linked PRs and discussion
15:30:18 <DataHoarder> that has been tested back and forth
15:30:45 <DataHoarder> Carrot was tweaked a couple of times, specially recently for future PQ turnstile support if needed
15:31:11 <DataHoarder> https://gist.github.com/jeffro256/146bfd5306ea3a8a2a0ea4d660cd2243 -> https://github.com/seraphis-migration/monero/pull/250
15:31:59 <DataHoarder> not all carrot features are needed when it releases, btw, that doesn't need a hardfork (or a fork at all) to support. the derivations already exist, carrot-native wallets can come in later (but afaik they want to release that as well)