12:20:18 <selsta> vikCake[m]: most of the sponsors have some recurring cost, e.g. sponsoring a server or something similar
12:22:05 <vikCake[m]> selsta: Sure we can do that.  Or just make a recurring monthly donation.  Whatever works. 
13:23:26 <ErCiccione> https://github.com/monero-project/monero-site/pull/2035
13:24:55 <ErCiccione> i'm not sure about the current status of Mymonero. AFAIK only mobile is missing
13:29:30 <ofrnxmr[m]> Ios is missing
13:30:08 <ErCiccione> ok. We could add only edge for now, but if it's a matter of a couple of days we could just wait
13:37:08 <ofrnxmr[m]> I'm of the school of thought that we wait to add mymonero and edge for as long as it took users were left hanging.
13:37:08 <ofrnxmr[m]> 14-16+ days to fix, so id be like to hold off on reinstating edge until at least ~10th of Sept. Later for mymonero.
13:48:13 <ofrnxmr[m]> Ios & windows TBD.*
13:49:22 <ofrnxmr[m]> "We are still busy with iOS and Windows.
13:49:23 <ofrnxmr[m]> We are also working on the spend patch, so if you are receiving errors while trying to send funds, this is why."
13:49:23 <ofrnxmr[m]> So.. unclear if the fixed versions are properly "fixed"
13:55:29 <Rucknium[m]> I don't think we should rely on announcements. Someone has to test all the wallets to make sure they are actually working properly.
14:21:48 <ErCiccione> so only edge seems to be ready at the moment
15:35:42 <ofrnxmr[m]> Would like to confirm with some edge users. 
15:35:42 <ofrnxmr[m]> Edge uses mymonero backend, so if mymonero has problems.. so does edge 
15:35:57 <ofrnxmr[m]> (Id assume)
18:52:33 <binaryFate_> vikCake[m]: I'll see where we stand with servers/bills and reccurring sponsors. There is at least the matrix/utils server currently uncovered, I'm paying it personally atm, though it would be quite small compared to other sponsors. Remind me to come back to you on this
19:21:50 <binaryFate> <ofrnxmr[m]> I'm of the school of thought that we wait to add mymonero and edge for as long as it took users were left hanging. <--- I think this is arbitrary/subjective and hence will lead to never ending debates. Nobody's entitled IMO to be on a punishing crusade against others in the community on such arbitrary terms. I would stick to a simple, objective line: if a wallet works it should be on the website, and if it does not work it should 
19:21:51 <binaryFate> not be on the website.
19:42:25 <selsta> +1, I really dislike the idea of arbitrary rules / punishments
19:55:00 <ofrnxmr[m]> Was only half arbitrary
19:55:00 <ofrnxmr[m]> Im confused with the messaging from them regarding whether it works or not
19:56:23 <ofrnxmr[m]> >You can view your wallet balance in our web-wallet, macOS, Linux & Android mobile app.... (full message at https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/libera.chat/70b35863ee1a18e014bfdad3c4c8f3eabc603f80)
19:58:17 <ofrnxmr[m]> <binaryFate> "<ofrnxmr> I'm of the school of..." <- This 'one should apply to monero.com as well then no?
19:58:17 <ofrnxmr[m]> Recommended wallets are recommended because of partially arbitrary reasons. 
19:59:26 <ofrnxmr[m]> "If a wallet works"
19:59:27 <ofrnxmr[m]> exodus works
20:01:22 <binaryFate> I'm not saying it has to be the only criteria to be on website. Something scammy should not be there, even if it "works". I am saying we should not start debate of punishing delays or whatever you are suggesting, for things that otherwise should be on website.
20:01:53 <binaryFate> I find it petty, divisive, unproductive.
20:10:45 <r4v3r23[m]> remove all wallets except offical CLI/GUI from "recommended wallets"
20:12:56 <ofrnxmr[m]> Exodus and monero.com arent scammy. Exodus is as trusted as mymonero and seems to have more user then edge.
20:12:57 <ofrnxmr[m]> Monero.com is just cake wallet with a different name.
20:12:57 <ofrnxmr[m]> Im not trying to punish anyone. Just think that something as big as mymonero, using a custom implementation, with as many wallets depending on it as there are, it should clear that the implementation actually working before we start pointing users to it from the official website.
20:12:57 <ofrnxmr[m]> Again, if my "leave them off for a couple weeks" is a punishment, what is "remove cake" or "dont list monero.com"
20:14:53 <ofrnxmr[m]> Im perfectly fine with listing mymonero as soon as its confirmed working again. Im not ok with listing it even slightly prematurely
20:22:34 <MajesticBank> I tried website wallet, but it seems non-functional to receive and redirect to app
20:26:31 <MajesticBank> in favor of listing mymonero anyway but with * pointing what actually works