08:48:30 <ErCiccione> Please provide feedback: https://github.com/monero-project/monero-site/pull/2145
08:49:04 <ErCiccione> the pr is meant to give an objective guideline on what to list on the mobile and light wallets section
08:55:22 <ofrnxmr[m]> ill comment further when i have time, but i feel this is the wrong direction. that is, foregoing responsibility and opening the door for random junk wallets to be listed
08:55:54 <ofrnxmr[m]> the only thing on getmonero should be community vetted software, even if not endorsed
08:56:42 <ofrnxmr[m]> being around for a long time doesnt make xmrwallet better thannstack, not exclude stack
08:56:56 <ofrnxmr[m]> nor*
08:57:19 <ofrnxmr[m]> not should itbopen the door for grifter wallets
08:57:35 <ofrnxmr[m]> nor*
09:08:27 <ErCiccione> "community vetted software" is way too broad. Now i think it's time to have stricter guidelines, so to have objective parameters to be listed on that section. Having no parameters ends up vetting based on the personal opinion of who is doing the vetting, which is not optimal
09:10:06 <ErCiccione> we can also say that wallets will be added at discretion of the maintainers of the website, but that would make even easier to end up in a mess of complaints and "why them and not me" kind of situations
09:10:44 <ErCiccione> In any case, leaving the vetting to an undefined "community" doesn't make sense now that the project is much bigger and there are many different communities
09:10:56 <ofrnxmr[m]> those questions are easy to answer
09:11:36 <ofrnxmr[m]> and no, oroject isnt much bigger.there are only a handful of wallets that CAN be recommended
09:12:17 <ErCiccione> that's your personal opinion. My point here is to avoid personal opinions as much as possible in favour of an objective set of parameters
09:12:31 <ofrnxmr[m]> and getmonero shoukd only be recommending wallets that are held accountabke 
09:12:36 <ofrnxmr[m]> its not my opinion
09:12:41 <ofrnxmr[m]> i test wallets
09:12:46 <ofrnxmr[m]> i dont take bribes
09:14:41 <ErCiccione> i'm suggesting to decrease the amount of trust needed by a visitor of the website. "Trust me i test wallets" goes in the opposite direction of that. How would getmonero be able to hold wallets accountable? The maintainers cannot do more than list or remove a wallet
09:15:17 <ofrnxmr[m]> how? the same way we do with all other pull requestd
09:16:02 <ErCiccione> with clear parameters instead of the opinion of the active contributors in the specific moment the request to be added on getmonero is made
09:16:06 <ofrnxmr[m]> things get reviewed furst. unused wallets by definition cant be listed as nobody has reviewed them
09:16:33 <ofrnxmr[m]> feel free to keep listing grifter wallets
09:16:50 <ofrnxmr[m]> ill keep trying to make sure they dont
09:17:12 <ofrnxmr[m]> they can go get listed on poolbay.io or coingecko
09:18:01 <ErCiccione> That's a centralized approach that i disagree with and that's a recipe for troubles
09:18:42 <ofrnxmr[m]> go list coinwallet and elite whileyoure at it
09:18:51 <ofrnxmr[m]> scammers gonna scam
09:18:53 <ErCiccione> can you make non toxic comments as well?
09:18:53 <ofrnxmr[m]> ttul
09:19:12 <ofrnxmr[m]> and upload the og copy of the wallet generator thx
09:19:21 <ErCiccione> i take it as a no
09:19:31 <ofrnxmr[m]> im busy
09:19:54 <ofrnxmr[m]> and youre wasting everybodies time with your refusal to upload the damn document
09:21:05 <ofrnxmr[m]> turned a link change into some weirdeffort to removecredits andaddyour own
09:22:02 <ofrnxmr[m]> now you want to loosenhe language around listing scam wallets
09:22:11 <ofrnxmr[m]> toxic = you
13:33:15 <MajesticBank> I don't understand why ofrnxmr[m] is not banned 
13:33:40 <MajesticBank> anyway I think we need more wallets on getmonero
13:35:38 <MajesticBank> and should be better explained if wallet have closed source backend or requires centralized server required for api price ticker, basically something that's off the industry standard and have privacy implications