09:58:19 <m-relay> <e​rc:cryptoriot.org> from a short conversation with luigi seems that for now the ccs is practically suspended. My new ccs hasn't been approved yet and it's unclear how core plans to deal with the ccs and contributors that rely on it for living. I usually keep working before my ccs is merged, but since the situation is very unclear i'll just pause my activity until i have things are clarified.
10:05:02 <m-relay> <e​rc:cryptoriot.org> Pinging core because this is critical and urgent for me and all other people that rely on the ccs: luigi1111 binaryfate fluffypony
10:09:23 <m-relay> <c​trej:matrix.org> core is on a flexible schedule. they do 3 months of work total but it may be spread out over two years. they don't have a minimum available time in their contracts either
10:56:41 <fluffypony> erc: I'm no longer Core, but I'm sure luigi1111 and binaryFate will attend to it with urgency
10:58:46 <m-relay> <e​rc:cryptoriot.org> right sorry, i'm used to my core trinity when pinging 🙂
12:26:01 <luigi1111> It's relatively simple (though quite cumbersome) to set up a secure ish wallet (at least from online attacks), but that's not the biggest concern currently.
12:57:16 <m-relay> <e​rc:cryptoriot.org> not the biggest concern, i agree, but i hope it will be prioritised, because a bunch of people rely on the ccs, without mentioning projects, so would be good to have some sort of continuity
14:07:52 <luigi1111>  I mean the ccs is a big concern, just key storage is only one part
14:18:14 <plowsof> we have general fund (GF) 1 (target balance of zero) and GF2 with literally over 9000 moneros , and a BTC wallet with like 10k$ in but whos' counting https://www.blockchain.com/explorer/addresses/btc/1KTexdemPdxSBcG55heUuTjDRYqbC5ZL8H 
14:19:12 <plowsof> and multisig does not exist 
14:47:08 <m-relay> <p​lowsof:matrix.org> fluffypony you do realise that multisig does not exist?
14:47:44 <m-relay> <p​lowsof:matrix.org> most people on the github issue seem to believe it does
14:48:27 <m-relay> <p​lowsof:matrix.org> iirc its fine as long as you trust all the participants (aka its a backup of your own wallet)
14:51:01 <plowsof> how to get multisig to exist was briefly mentioned in the last MRL meeting https://libera.monerologs.net/monero-research-lab/20231108#c301310
14:59:08 <plowsof> my "iirc" above is from my own layman brain, its not exactly correct, it seems to be pre-audit - "as long as you trust all the participants to not be elite mathematician hackzors" 
17:23:16 <fluffypony> plowsof: yeah I know, it's more of a hypothetical as to what *could* be multisig and what definitely can't