14:32:27 <m-relay> <p​lowsof:matrix.org> thanks, so krakens fiat list
14:38:55 <m-relay> <p​lowsof:matrix.org> is sane / asterisks correct* i assume it would still leave people to believe there is a direct GBP/XMR or CAD/XMR pairing though
14:41:28 <m-relay> <b​asses:matrix.org> agree
18:43:13 <m-relay> <b​asses:matrix.org> Had discussion with mymonero dev on main monero group, please check it out. Should still be listed on the website?
18:47:50 <m-relay> <b​asses:matrix.org> mymonero wallet?
18:47:57 <m-relay> <b​asses:matrix.org> mymonero wallet
18:56:39 <m-relay> <b​asses:matrix.org> well.. not a dev but director, but you still understand the severity of the issues.
18:57:30 <m-relay> <1​23bob123:matrix.org> Always seems to be soon™️ with that person
19:22:05 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:agoradesk.com> endogenic?
19:22:49 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:agoradesk.com> Endo isnt involved with mynonero anymore, and regarding should it be listed. If you ask me, no.
19:24:20 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:agoradesk.com> https://github.com/monero-project/monero-site/issues/2162
19:32:28 <m-relay> <b​asses:matrix.org> agree
19:32:44 <m-relay> <b​asses:matrix.org> what's blocking the change?
19:35:15 <m-relay> <p​lowsof:matrix.org> some users need light wallets to be hosted for them which an app on their phone can connect to
19:35:44 <m-relay> <p​lowsof:matrix.org> we currently have so few options for this^ that we have 1 or 2 centralised collections of view keys
19:36:18 <m-relay> <p​lowsof:matrix.org> RINO is another centralised alternative which is not listed, heres the monerokon wallet https://app.rino.io/public/wallets/mk-fund
19:38:42 <m-relay> <b​asses:matrix.org> well they suck
19:38:56 <m-relay> <b​asses:matrix.org> and mymonero sucks the most
19:39:25 <m-relay> <b​asses:matrix.org> plowsof: https://github.com/monero-project/monero-site/issues/2162#issuecomment-1615901467
19:39:36 <m-relay> <b​asses:matrix.org> also edge https://reports.exodus-privacy.eu.org/en/reports/co.edgesecure.app/latest/
19:41:15 <m-relay> <b​asses:matrix.org> well.. it's their problem
19:41:32 <m-relay> <b​asses:matrix.org> Monero shouldn't be recommending every possible option to please people
19:41:55 <m-relay> <b​asses:matrix.org> especially when it have many security vulnerbilities
19:41:59 <m-relay> <b​asses:matrix.org> especially when it have many security vulnerabilities
19:43:51 <m-relay> <p​lowsof:matrix.org> anarkiocrypto makes the best case for "light wallets" (which is what we need.. not centralised services)
19:44:32 <m-relay> <p​lowsof:matrix.org> we are within arms reach of self-hostable (for friends/family) monero-light wallet servers with apps that connect without leaking view keys
19:45:00 <m-relay> <1​23bob123:matrix.org> Well you can run your own lws server, but still need the app to connect to your server
19:45:11 <m-relay> <p​lowsof:matrix.org> vtnerds work (which we dont plug in the light wallet section (?)) e.g. https://monerofund.org/projects/Q1Q2_2024_dev_vtnerd
19:45:57 <m-relay> <p​lowsof:matrix.org> and a bounty to handle the "app" https://bounties.monero.social/posts/90/6-200m-implement-monero-light-wallet-server-client-library-for-android-native
19:46:25 <m-relay> <p​lowsof:matrix.org> dammed if you do dammed if you dont (list the current trash* light wallets)
19:46:38 <m-relay> <1​23bob123:matrix.org> Yeep
19:47:25 <m-relay> <p​lowsof:matrix.org> adding rino would be an initial diluting of the view wallet collection at least
19:48:55 <m-relay> <1​23bob123:matrix.org> luigi Monero tech advisor; Main MyMonero JS core crypto contributor
19:53:28 <m-relay> <b​asses:matrix.org> So, they will be removed?
19:54:01 <m-relay> <b​asses:matrix.org> until a _real_ solution becomes available?
19:55:00 <m-relay> <b​asses:matrix.org> also the director is implications are not very assuring..
19:55:16 <m-relay> <1​23bob123:matrix.org> Remove luigi?
19:55:17 <m-relay> <b​asses:matrix.org> I would have removed them immediately 🤷
19:55:30 <m-relay> <1​23bob123:matrix.org> Well if there is no proof given its all talk
19:55:53 <m-relay> <b​asses:matrix.org> other than that it is obvious it is shit
20:25:26 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:agoradesk.com> https://twitter.com/MyMonero/status/1758943525184459053
20:25:27 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:agoradesk.com> speak of the devil
20:26:35 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:agoradesk.com> Should delist them just for misrepresending
20:27:04 <m-relay> <1​23bob123:matrix.org> delist getmonero!
20:32:13 <m-relay> <b​asses:matrix.org> lol
20:43:18 <m-relay> <b​asses:matrix.org> https://matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/v1/download/matrix.org/afmGxreJEfPxomGiQbAgjdmB
20:43:25 <m-relay> <b​asses:matrix.org> https://xn--ss8ha70a.y.at/
20:43:29 <m-relay> <b​asses:matrix.org> what's that?
21:25:04 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:agoradesk.com> Tari thing
22:00:50 <m-relay> <p​lowsof:matrix.org> fluffy has left core / wants to distance himself but the person running the mymonero twitter has other plans https://twitter.com/MyMonero/status/1757434464366444739
22:13:24 <m-relay> <1​23bob123:matrix.org> nooooo
22:29:58 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:agoradesk.com> mymonero twitter glows like crazy lol.
22:30:23 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:agoradesk.com> Kyc is good
22:30:24 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:agoradesk.com> fluffypony is our partner
22:30:24 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:agoradesk.com> Monero tm recommends us
22:31:28 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:agoradesk.com> Fluffypony twitter
22:31:28 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:agoradesk.com> kyc is bad
22:31:29 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:agoradesk.com> Monero has no official entity or representation 
22:31:29 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:agoradesk.com> im not partnered with anyone
22:32:33 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:agoradesk.com> If edge doesnt want to remove trackers, we should delist both before the next deployment
22:50:48 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:agoradesk.com> Or in big bold letters "for convenience ONLY. The below wallets are centralized services who may or may not track and report your activities"
22:51:44 <m-relay> <1​23bob123:matrix.org> disclaimer