16:18:42 <sech1> Is anyone except me concerned that getmonero site uses CloudFlare? CF have been sketchy lately: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8zj7ei5Egk8
16:28:02 <m-relay> <s​yntheticbird:monero.social> sech1 I'm not too much into conspiracy but I too feel like cloudflare is a liability
16:28:44 <m-relay> <s​yntheticbird:monero.social> but we're already using several other highly centralized services (github and netlify)
16:29:14 <m-relay> <s​yntheticbird:monero.social> So, unless we decide to switch those services too, there are not much sense at removing cloudflare, for the website at least
16:29:46 <sech1> as for github, there is a backup gitlab instance with Monero repositories
16:30:30 <m-relay> <s​yntheticbird:monero.social> Yes, I would honestly prefer the monero project to just switch over their own repository but I agree with the sentiment that users will be too lazy to create an account and report issues
16:30:41 <m-relay> <s​yntheticbird:monero.social> over their own gitlabi instance*
16:31:46 <sech1> I don't see the main Monero repo there though https://repo.getmonero.org/users/monero-project/projects
16:32:15 <m-relay> <s​yntheticbird:monero.social> maybe it was never backup
16:32:27 <m-relay> <s​yntheticbird:monero.social> i guess several trusted members have mirror
16:32:57 <m-relay> <s​yntheticbird:monero.social> (I have one)
16:33:22 <sech1> Anyone who cloned the repo, has it up until some point in time. It's how git works, right?
16:33:51 <m-relay> <s​yntheticbird:monero.social> Yes. If you want the new commits you need to fetch
16:34:38 <m-relay> <s​yntheticbird:monero.social> Tho I've a private gitlab instance and I just mirrored monero repo, so gitlab automatically (6 hours iirc) fetch new commits and branches
16:48:40 <selsta> core team pays for a service that backs up github
16:49:58 <selsta> afaik there were also a couple CCS that tried to back things up but the people behind it vanished (plowsof do you remember the details?)
17:08:04 <plowsof> "moneroarchive" who scammed us for 1 monero lol
17:09:20 <plowsof> We have a community member Arkal (4rkal) hosting a copy of the github repo. Funded via kuno iirc 
17:09:33 <m-relay> <s​yntheticbird:monero.social> Lmao I can make one for free
17:09:41 <m-relay> <s​yntheticbird:monero.social> oh good if Arkal already do one
17:10:25 <plowsof> More info on the moneroarchive scam https://github.com/plowsof/ccs-wip-list/issues/2
17:12:23 <plowsof> Sech1 should we enable a backup on our gitlab instance? 
17:12:47 <m-relay> <s​yntheticbird:monero.social> If you do, would you mind backing up Cuprate was well?
17:13:39 <plowsof> Im in the 'we dont need any unofficial back up that wont be trusted if we actually needed it anyway.. we'd ask the handful of.monero devs / trusted contribs with local gits' 
17:14:33 <m-relay> <s​yntheticbird:monero.social> not sure they fetched metadata of all branches tho
17:14:39 <plowsof> Issues / comments / emojis from github on the other hand
17:15:35 <sech1> tbh I don't fetch Monero repo that often. Maybe once a week
17:15:48 <sech1> So my local copy is outdated most of the time
17:17:08 <plowsof> Your xmrig/p2pool archive points are maxed out though 
17:18:12 <m-relay> <s​yntheticbird:monero.social> wait sech1 coded xmrig?
17:19:30 <m-relay> <s​yntheticbird:monero.social> ah you're just the second contributor alr
17:19:57 <plowsof> Sech1 "the asic bricker" 
17:20:49 <sech1> the xmrig author is anonymous and he controls xmrig website and github repo. But yes, I did a lot of XMRig coding