00:04:08 <m-relay> <d​iego:cypherstack.com> Hm. Why is Cypher Stack not on the sponsors page after the deployment?
00:04:40 <m-relay> <s​yntheticbird:monero.social> corruption probably
00:04:52 <m-relay> <s​yntheticbird:monero.social> or CIA taking over
00:05:12 <m-relay> <d​iego:cypherstack.com> Oh it wasn't merged. Lol.
00:06:20 <m-relay> <r​ottenwheel:kernal.eu> I think the only thing merged for recent point release blog post was... just that, the CLI and GUI blog posts. 😅
00:06:42 <m-relay> <r​ottenwheel:kernal.eu> Should've merged a load of pending PRs. Two birds killed with one stone. 🤷‍♂️
00:07:05 <m-relay> <r​ottenwheel:kernal.eu> When are we getting credentials to be able to see WIP progress with design?
00:13:39 <m-relay> <d​iego:cypherstack.com> Current work is on figma so we can get it out faster.
00:13:46 <nioCat> The saying is "pet 2 cats with one hand"
00:14:46 <m-relay> <s​yntheticbird:monero.social> only possible with 2 good cats that stick their head together
00:15:02 <m-relay> <s​yntheticbird:monero.social> and good cats only happen with good humans
00:15:18 <m-relay> <s​yntheticbird:monero.social> so if you can't pet 2 cats with one hand you're a bad human
00:15:24 <m-relay> <s​yntheticbird:monero.social> checkmates
00:15:38 <nioCat> 2 cats head to tail works very well 
00:16:07 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> nsfw
00:16:17 <nioCat> Nice circular motion
00:16:52 <m-relay> <s​yntheticbird:monero.social> The Cat-omatic somehow
00:17:20 <nioCat> Now to read the scrollback 
00:20:42 <m-relay> <r​ottenwheel:kernal.eu> Okay, but where's it? I take it you share design subdomain because it's a preview, or just stating that's where you're working on this?
00:21:35 <m-relay> <d​iego:cypherstack.com> I shared it because someone was asking about if penpot was up yet. It'll be a community resource.
01:29:47 <m-relay> <3​21bob321:monero.social> Blog was only merged
04:34:32 <pigeons> @rehrar registration emails are working now for penpot. https://design.getmonero.org.
08:38:06 <m-relay> <b​asses:matrix.org> SyntheticBird you can start by Real-World Cryptography by David Wong Book very fun to read (https://blog.cryptohack.org/real-world-cryptography-review best review from website that teaches crypto) then read the real stuff like books or uni courses, you can search hacker news & reddit for recommendations.
08:47:18 <m-relay> <b​asses:matrix.org> nice, works. Btw, why tf do I have to answer a forced questionnaire?
08:48:43 <m-relay> <3​21bob321:monero.social> For marketing purposes
08:49:16 <m-relay> <3​21bob321:monero.social> Also rip weblate
08:49:34 <m-relay> <b​asses:matrix.org> Diego Salazar link to the design?
09:23:48 <m-relay> <s​yntheticbird:monero.social> Thank you piegons. I was able to register, however disabling the little intrusive question form at the beginning would be appreciated:
09:24:03 <m-relay> <s​yntheticbird:monero.social> https://matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/v1/download/monero.social/ZXovHsKRFsNBRDRPvbtoPOGN
09:24:14 <m-relay> <s​yntheticbird:monero.social> unskippable
09:28:09 <m-relay> <3​21bob321:monero.social> From nioc
14:44:51 <m-relay> <d​iego:cypherstack.com> https://web.getmonero.org/generator/
14:44:53 <m-relay> <d​iego:cypherstack.com> Why isn't this on the address generator list?
14:44:59 <m-relay> <d​iego:cypherstack.com> on resources/tools
14:45:36 <m-relay> <d​iego:cypherstack.com> It's in the user guide
14:56:33 <plowsof> good question, it definitely should be 
14:57:23 <m-relay> <b​asses:matrix.org> Diego Salazar
14:59:12 <m-relay> <r​ottenwheel:kernal.eu> Diego Salazar: At least it's linked in the bottom of this user guide. https://www.getmonero.org/resources/user-guides/Offline_Backup.html
14:59:48 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Because nobody opened a pr for that
15:00:35 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Whrn generator went live, some of the current contributors were blackballed by erc
15:00:40 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> s/some/most
15:02:54 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Also linked here https://www.getmonero.org/resources/user-guides/securely_purchase.html
15:05:49 <m-relay> <r​ottenwheel:kernal.eu> Who has Paint/Windows installed? Need a couple quick edits for a guide on getmonero.org.
15:09:53 <m-relay> <b​asses:matrix.org> Me but paint is hard for me
15:09:57 <m-relay> <b​asses:matrix.org> Photopea easier
15:12:36 <m-relay> <r​ottenwheel:kernal.eu> Do it with whatever you need, but make it look as close as possible to original author, please. It is very simpleÑ
15:12:38 <m-relay> <r​ottenwheel:kernal.eu> Do it with whatever you need, but make it look as close as possible to original author, please. It is very simple:
15:13:06 <m-relay> <b​asses:matrix.org> what is it?
15:13:19 <m-relay> <r​ottenwheel:kernal.eu> https://matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/v1/download/kernal.eu/xhxSgjMTWTlGaXKDeMOCtHFJ
15:13:33 <m-relay> <b​asses:matrix.org> oh update that monero.social requires email account?
15:13:37 <m-relay> <r​ottenwheel:kernal.eu> This image is outdated: notice the 'matrix.monero.social'. I am sending you the same screenshot but with 'monero.social' for the server field. You'd just need to add the red rectangles and numbers.
15:13:39 <m-relay> <r​ottenwheel:kernal.eu> Send it over.
15:13:42 <m-relay> <b​asses:matrix.org> it says it doesn't on that page
15:14:19 <plowsof> thankfully we still have windows users otherwise this wouldnt be possible 
15:14:41 <m-relay> <r​ottenwheel:kernal.eu> https://matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/v1/download/kernal.eu/UMTsjIeKpQCvsQVQVnWbCQyL
15:14:58 <m-relay> <r​ottenwheel:kernal.eu> https://matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/v1/download/kernal.eu/WCqwLGOGDuwpsKoWsZPJKCAa
15:15:18 <plowsof> microsoft paint really has a monopoly on the market 
15:15:19 <m-relay> <r​ottenwheel:kernal.eu> Fuck my life, thought I had them next to each other like OP has them. Meh, should be trivial to make it look like this, no?
15:15:32 <m-relay> <b​asses:matrix.org> yeah, linux users sucks at paint, leave it for the Pros
15:15:54 <m-relay> <r​ottenwheel:kernal.eu> Send me the edited message with the rectangles, numbers and both in a single image file. I'll submit PR for both address generator under tools and fixing join Matrix core tutorial.
15:16:14 <plowsof> lols GIMP is feature rich for linuxy. rottenwheel please learn how to eedit a simple image 
15:16:16 <m-relay> <r​ottenwheel:kernal.eu> Someone tell the brit to go grab a biscuit. Adult, hardworking people are talking.
15:16:30 <m-relay> <r​ottenwheel:kernal.eu> plowsof If you cover the graphic design course, sure.
15:17:46 <m-relay> <r​ottenwheel:kernal.eu> rando: fuck my life, there are yet more outdated screenshots. See here: https://www.getmonero.org/resources/user-guides/join-monero-matrix.html
15:18:06 <m-relay> <r​ottenwheel:kernal.eu> Looks like the same screenshots but replicated on Element Android and iOS.
15:18:17 <m-relay> <b​asses:matrix.org> sir wait, Paint crashing
15:18:26 <m-relay> <r​ottenwheel:kernal.eu> Well, we'd need those 3 same screenshots but instead of matrix subdomain, just monero.social, raw.
15:18:34 <m-relay> <r​ottenwheel:kernal.eu> Therein lies the error.
15:18:43 <m-relay> <r​ottenwheel:kernal.eu> No rush, I'm just letting y'all know.
15:19:01 <plowsof> thanks hm
15:19:04 <m-relay> <r​ottenwheel:kernal.eu> I'll create a new issue so this doesn't get lost in the mentally challenged chitchat in here...
15:21:37 <m-relay> <r​ottenwheel:kernal.eu> https://github.com/monero-project/monero-site/issues/2361
15:22:09 <plowsof> an bot has auto commented sharing probaby malware, selsta 
15:22:13 <m-relay> <r​ottenwheel:kernal.eu> Oh nice, it immediately got hit by a scammer! GitHub is X now! https://github.com/monero-project/monero-site/issues/2361#issuecomment-2310474309
15:22:31 <m-relay> <r​ottenwheel:kernal.eu> The world is becoming the United Kingdom...
15:23:47 <selsta> report them
15:23:57 <selsta> they usually get banned by github
15:24:03 <plowsof> did matrix.monero.social work at one point and now not? is that why you chose the word 'outdated' rottenwheel?
15:24:09 <plowsof> will do thanks 
15:24:14 <selsta> luigi is not here to ban them from org
15:24:28 <selsta> will also report
15:25:18 <m-relay> <r​ottenwheel:kernal.eu> Yes.
15:25:46 <m-relay> <r​ottenwheel:kernal.eu> Whoever spun up social at first had it with the matrix subdomain, then it was fixed.
15:26:06 <plowsof> pigeons can we make matrix and/org monero.social work? 
15:26:34 <plowsof> backwards compatibility for our screens lol
15:34:39 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> No need for the first domain
15:35:02 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> The question should be "are there any active users on that domain"
15:36:32 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> i think it probably sunset a long time ago, though perhaps still serves the same resources
15:43:42 <m-relay> <b​asses:matrix.org> elementm.png
15:43:44 <m-relay> <b​asses:matrix.org> rottenwheel your pics were low quality btw
15:44:35 <m-relay> <b​asses:matrix.org> disabling v8 in Brave ruined Photopea, had made it spend 2x time doing simple stuff
15:46:45 <m-relay> <b​asses:matrix.org> can you update this part in your PR?
15:46:58 <m-relay> <b​asses:matrix.org> .
15:48:34 <m-relay> <b​asses:matrix.org> info stealer, saw it on a lot of repos today
15:49:18 <m-relay> <r​ottenwheel:kernal.eu> I'll edit the issue so whoever makes the PR if not me, knows.
15:49:55 <m-relay> <r​ottenwheel:kernal.eu> Probably the gay matrix compression stuff. Got it, thanks. Can you also make element android and element iOS like original blog post has them?
15:50:23 <m-relay> <r​ottenwheel:kernal.eu> If not you, anyone else. Those two are the only ones missing. I'm too lazy to do them myself and I don't use element. Lol.
15:50:26 <m-relay> <r​ottenwheel:kernal.eu> Nor have an iPhone. What an insult.
15:51:32 <m-relay> <b​asses:matrix.org> I dont element, anyone that uses it can help
15:51:49 <m-relay> <b​asses:matrix.org> I dont use*
15:52:23 <m-relay> <r​ottenwheel:kernal.eu> Aye.
16:00:58 <m-relay> <r​ottenwheel:kernal.eu> Done.
16:06:30 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Rotten probably has me blocked
16:06:41 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> But android and ios screenshots are probably unnecessary
16:06:56 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Element is being depreciated for element x
16:07:33 <m-relay> <b​asses:matrix.org> >But android and ios screenshots are probably unnecessary 
16:07:34 <m-relay> <b​asses:matrix.org> >Element is being depreciated for element x
16:07:36 <m-relay> <b​asses:matrix.org> from ofrnxmr
16:07:50 <plowsof> also available on monerologs.net 
16:08:14 <m-relay> <b​asses:matrix.org> plow why use IRC?
16:08:22 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> https://www.getmonero.org/community/hangouts/
16:08:23 <m-relay> <b​asses:matrix.org> when u got matrix?
16:08:31 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Is the discord icon not loading?
16:08:53 <plowsof> speed, near 0ms delay for accessing messages 
16:08:59 <m-relay> <b​asses:matrix.org> clipboard.png
16:09:14 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> https://matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/v1/download/monero.social/njXHwfkAaGmlqOzpFzdNWjkJ
16:09:48 <plowsof> i would suspect its a cache issue 
16:10:03 <plowsof> the 10~ year old sprite image doesnt get re-downloaded 
16:10:17 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Cache issue. Worked in incognito
16:10:30 <plowsof> >sprites 
16:10:41 <plowsof> saves on network as nobody redownloads it 
16:11:13 <m-relay> <b​asses:matrix.org> are these icons new?
16:11:24 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> A lot of duplication going on between hangouts and workgroups
16:11:31 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Only the discord
16:11:53 <m-relay> <b​asses:matrix.org> should we remove facebook?
16:11:57 <pigeons>  /names #monero-site
16:12:05 <m-relay> <b​asses:matrix.org> any activity there?
16:12:57 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Theres a pr for it iirc
16:13:25 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> https://github.com/monero-project/monero-site/pull/2348
16:13:57 <pigeons> plowsof: Trying to follow the request. I believe usersneed to always use monero.social, but this is delegated to actually use the machine matrix.monero.social but not at the user level which is just monero.social. If that's not the case let me know
16:14:30 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Sounds correct to me
16:15:22 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Any thoughts on the android/ios screenshots? Element x vs element
16:15:22 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> i dont use elementX because of reasons, but element is getting worse all the time
16:15:58 <plowsof> thanks for clarifying pigeons, the screenshots are the problem then
16:17:38 <m-relay> <b​asses:matrix.org> probably the most secure element client for android?
16:18:20 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Both suck
16:19:17 <pigeons> Hmm I just tried with app.element.io and it requires https://matrix.monero.social as the homeserver, contradictory to what I just said.
16:19:51 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> i used monero.social IIRC when i signed up
16:20:24 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Could b wrong
16:20:55 <m-relay> <r​ottenwheel:kernal.eu> And the clusterfuck rabbit hole ensues...
16:30:10 <pigeons> syntheticbird: Thanks I am restarting penpot now with the disable-onboarding-questions flag.
17:44:15 <m-relay> <s​yntheticbird:monero.social> thx pigeons
19:32:37 <m-relay> <3​21bob321:monero.social> Depends on the client
19:32:47 <m-relay> <3​21bob321:monero.social> Fractal just needs monero.social
20:24:46 <m-relay> <3​21bob321:monero.social> Replace with myspace