04:33:25 <m-relay> <r​brunner7:monero.social> I apologize to Diego Salazar . I made two comments yesterday that were not ok and unfair to him:
04:33:30 <m-relay> <r​brunner7:monero.social> > Luigi 2 month ago on the website CCS proposal: "Closing in favor of constructing a functioning website workgroup". Boy, did that work out.
04:34:46 <m-relay> <r​brunner7:monero.social> This is very easy to read as "Diego failed to manage that workgroup successfully", whereas he did his best, and continues to do so, to bring the project "new Monero website" finally forward
04:34:59 <m-relay> <r​brunner7:monero.social> > From now on, if I don't like how something goes in Monero, I will immediately start to think how I could strategically offer 4 XMR to derail everything and get my will.
04:36:41 <m-relay> <r​brunner7:monero.social> This is very easy to read as "It was Diego's intention to sway things into the "Hugo" direction intentionally when he offered XMR for a Hugo proof-of-concept". I am sure that there was no such intention, what happened was a classic case of "unintended consequences".
04:38:59 <m-relay> <r​brunner7:monero.social> Not an excuse, but an explanation: When I made those two comments I was deeply upset about how things had turned out. I lashed out in anger, and instead of helping, I made things worse still. I hope that will teach me to refrain from commenting in such a mental state.
05:22:34 <m-relay> <3​21bob321:monero.social> 50 lashings?
05:24:29 <m-relay> <3​21bob321:monero.social> Lets be honest the dalai lama couldnt get consensus
11:12:51 <m-relay> <s​yntheticbird:monero.social> So, if i understand correctly, everyone is waiting for next meeting to discuss the backend choice (again) ? Is the design still ongoing ?
11:51:40 <m-relay> <3​21bob321:monero.social> Question that needs anwering
11:51:41 <m-relay> <3​21bob321:monero.social> Update website or re-write
11:51:56 <m-relay> <3​21bob321:monero.social> Cause the design can be used anywhere
11:52:16 <m-relay> <3​21bob321:monero.social> Then have sword fights for backend
12:00:26 <m-relay> <b​asses:matrix.org> we probably should discuss if we need to redesign the website along with the graphics present currently
12:00:42 <m-relay> <b​asses:matrix.org> until we we wait for rec's hugo rewrite
12:01:54 <m-relay> <3​21bob321:monero.social> I can see why plowsof avoids here
12:02:14 <m-relay> <3​21bob321:monero.social> Seraphis will be here before consensus
12:07:36 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Thats 3 weeks
12:08:09 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> What is this, the us goverment trying to legalize marijuana?
12:14:26 <plowsof> So janaka closed their CCS incase we didnt know 
12:16:30 <plowsof> Just stating it as a matter of fact, so, how can i/we help you recanmann 
12:18:21 <m-relay> <b​asses:matrix.org> until we we wait for rec's hugo port
12:18:47 <m-relay> <s​yntheticbird:monero.social> recanman: is planning on migrating current site to Hugo whatsoever is the consensus ?
12:18:57 <m-relay> <s​yntheticbird:monero.social> or am I confused?
12:20:06 <m-relay> <b​asses:matrix.org> he's is going to actually work on it
12:20:23 <m-relay> <b​asses:matrix.org> dieogo paid him already
12:20:43 <m-relay> <b​asses:matrix.org> if it turns out to be good then I'm fine with it, Hugo is great too
12:22:08 <m-relay> <s​yntheticbird:monero.social> i've no doubt it will turn out good it's just not very democratic. I wanted to see Astro and despite no consensus someone get funded for doing a work? I understand rbrunner7 message better
12:22:56 <m-relay> <b​asses:matrix.org> can you do it in Astro?
12:23:08 <m-relay> <b​asses:matrix.org> Diego is willing to pay for anyone want to do it in Astro
12:23:45 <m-relay> <s​yntheticbird:monero.social> *neuron activation*
12:24:12 <m-relay> <b​asses:matrix.org> jank CCS included the also a the redesgn concept I think
12:24:25 <m-relay> <b​asses:matrix.org> jank CCS included also the redesign concept I think
12:25:47 <m-relay> <s​yntheticbird:monero.social> mhm, well myum... whats scope? also hmh. how myuch? Diego Salazar
12:27:18 <m-relay> <b​asses:matrix.org> but a lot of people said current design is ok, but I see graphics are very outdated ~~and a bit childish~~. Doesn't represent community at all
12:28:47 <plowsof> We use sprites for images still (early 1990's this was cool)
12:28:51 <m-relay> <s​yntheticbird:monero.social> a lot of people saying that are zoomers wanting to stick with Gnome 2 or KDE 4, or worst XFCE.
12:29:18 <m-relay> <s​yntheticbird:monero.social> Anyone telling me the website doesn't need a change just don't care about it.
12:34:07 <m-relay> <b​asses:matrix.org> most had bad & NPC takes
12:34:48 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Dark mode is 4 criminal enterprises only
12:35:02 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Like cuprate and digilol
12:35:04 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> ..Criminals
13:08:15 <m-relay> <s​yntheticbird:monero.social> Hi rottenwheel
13:09:45 <m-relay> <r​ottenwheel:kernal.eu> Hi sir.
13:30:34 <m-relay> <v​ostoemisio:matrix.org> Hi rottenwheel
13:32:42 <m-relay> <d​iego:cypherstack.com> 4 xmr
13:33:32 <m-relay> <s​yntheticbird:monero.social> whats the scope exactly? all the website? including content?
13:33:54 <m-relay> <d​iego:cypherstack.com> Yes
13:34:13 <m-relay> <d​iego:cypherstack.com> I guess not every blog post ever
13:34:32 <m-relay> <d​iego:cypherstack.com> But several of them so we can see pagination and how it works overall
13:34:54 <m-relay> <s​yntheticbird:monero.social> i18n included ?
13:35:35 <m-relay> <b​asses:matrix.org> built in hugo, right?
13:35:43 <m-relay> <b​asses:matrix.org> built-in hugo, right?
13:35:46 <m-relay> <s​yntheticbird:monero.social> no if i do it its in astro
13:36:16 <m-relay> <b​asses:matrix.org> oh sorry I meant astro, https://docs.astro.build/en/recipes/i18n/
14:02:14 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Not the content imo.
14:03:22 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> lorem ipsum is fine by me lol. Content migration can happen later, if at all. Some content csn be dropped entirely/ like some of the docs/guides
14:04:34 <m-relay> <s​yntheticbird:monero.social> Diego Salazar. also is it a parallel bounty or am i in *competition with @recanman* just to be sure
14:05:08 <m-relay> <d​iego:cypherstack.com> You will be paid regardless.
14:12:20 <plowsof> Nice
15:24:19 <m-relay> <b​asses:matrix.org> cool
15:28:02 <nioCat> How often do we need to redesign the site so that we are up to date and cool?
15:28:49 <m-relay> <s​yntheticbird:monero.social> every 8 years
15:30:29 <nioCat> I guess that we should start working on the next redesign as soon as we complete this one  :D
15:31:59 <m-relay> <s​yntheticbird:monero.social> precognition. i like it
15:52:17 <m-relay> <r​brunner7:monero.social> > I guess that we should start working on the next redesign as soon as we complete this one :D  <- Perfect, that's the spirit
17:14:45 <m-relay> <s​yntheticbird:monero.social> Welcome benji1234 , to successfully register into monero channels you must type the following sentence:
17:14:47 <m-relay> <s​yntheticbird:monero.social> > *Long live monero-chan*
17:18:12 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Without the sentence your messages will be unreadable by other people in the channel
17:18:41 <m-relay> <s​yntheticbird:monero.social> he is probably a bot
19:25:55 <m-relay> <3​21bob321:monero.social> So recanman is porting current to hugo and then it might change again to something else. Sounds like a waste of time.
19:36:21 <m-relay> <s​yntheticbird:monero.social> its porting the current site, there will be a redesign anyway
19:36:25 <m-relay> <s​yntheticbird:monero.social> i mean
19:36:40 <m-relay> <s​yntheticbird:monero.social> i don't give a choice, its either their a redesign or i DDoS monero network.
19:37:09 <m-relay> <r​ecanman:kernal.eu> I'll continue with the porting unless Diego asks me to stop and I'll refund him
19:37:25 <m-relay> <r​ecanman:kernal.eu> I'll migrate all content except for documentation as it seems that is not wanted
19:39:20 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Can i help with the first D?
19:40:39 <m-relay> <3​21bob321:monero.social> Move ddos from town to network plz
20:17:10 <m-relay> <3​21bob321:monero.social> Is there a repo this port is going to?
20:17:33 <m-relay> <3​21bob321:monero.social> Or stealth addresses
20:18:02 <m-relay> <r​ecanman:kernal.eu> Yes
20:18:13 <m-relay> <r​ecanman:kernal.eu> https://github.com/recanman/hugo-monero-site-theme
20:18:15 <m-relay> <r​ecanman:kernal.eu> https://github.com/recanman/hugo-monero-site
20:51:32 <m-relay> <s​yntheticbird:monero.social> Mine is here: https://github.com/SyntheticBird45/monero-site-astro
20:52:51 <m-relay> <r​ecanman:kernal.eu> Are the user guides and developer guides the documentation part that does not need to be migrated?
20:52:53 <m-relay> <3​21bob321:monero.social> One could point coolify instance to the public repo
20:53:12 <m-relay> <3​21bob321:monero.social> @ofrnxmr
20:55:55 <m-relay> <r​ecanman:kernal.eu> Pushed first changes. I ported a couple of pages
21:04:53 <m-relay> <h​ardenedsteel:monero.social> 🍿
21:05:33 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Yea
21:05:44 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> https://github.com/monero-project/monero-docs
21:05:55 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> docs.getmonero.org
21:07:41 <m-relay> <s​yntheticbird:monero.social> Diego Salazar: you haven't responded if i18n is included in the migration process.  recanman are you doing it too? if yes, all languages ?
21:07:56 <m-relay> <r​ecanman:kernal.eu> I'll try my best
21:07:59 <m-relay> <r​ecanman:kernal.eu> The expectation is yes
21:08:01 <m-relay> <d​iego:cypherstack.com> one language at least, I'd suppose
21:08:04 <m-relay> <d​iego:cypherstack.com> can even be lorem ipsum
21:08:09 <m-relay> <d​iego:cypherstack.com> but I need to see how it works
21:08:38 <m-relay> <r​ecanman:kernal.eu> For strings just a yaml file in /i18n. For pages just a page with a separate extension
21:08:51 <m-relay> <r​ecanman:kernal.eu> page.fr.md <-- like this IIRC
21:10:18 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> https://docs.getmonero.org/rpc-library/monerod-rpc/ << example of some migrated
21:11:59 <m-relay> <r​ecanman:kernal.eu> Do I migrate moneropedia?
21:12:14 <m-relay> <r​ecanman:kernal.eu> And what about the user guides? https://www.getmonero.org/resources/user-guides/
21:12:59 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Only some of those guides should be
21:13:04 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Like joining matrix
21:13:20 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Mining guides are moving to docs
21:13:33 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> How to run a node as well
21:14:38 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> https://66.md.monerodevs.org/running-node/open-node-tor-onion/
21:14:39 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> https://66.md.monerodevs.org/running-node/monerod-tori2p/
21:15:35 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Idk about moneropedia
21:16:02 <m-relay> <3​21bob321:monero.social> Excuse me sir dont you run a forejo ????
21:16:17 <m-relay> <s​yntheticbird:monero.social> nah im racist
21:16:31 <m-relay> <3​21bob321:monero.social> We can work out later
21:28:52 <m-relay> <3​21bob321:monero.social> So is diego paying syn 4 ripple too?
21:29:48 <m-relay> <d​iego:cypherstack.com> yes
21:30:07 <m-relay> <d​iego:cypherstack.com> as the only non-poor and/or non-stingy here
21:39:40 <m-relay> <3​21bob321:monero.social> Or https://ccs.getmonero.org/proposals/rehrar-help-out.html the fingering of the pulse
21:42:20 <m-relay> <3​21bob321:monero.social> Or we create fcmp style slush fund for website
22:10:02 <m-relay> <s​yntheticbird:monero.social> I decided to make some redesign while I'm porting:
22:10:09 <m-relay> <s​yntheticbird:monero.social> https://matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/v1/download/monero.social/nhyMtamZAoozLWputWDCLsFo
22:10:16 <m-relay> <s​yntheticbird:monero.social> hope you guys enjoy the new look
22:11:12 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Looks extra private
22:12:01 <m-relay> <3​21bob321:monero.social> Redacted for security reasons
22:21:23 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> proof that astro is best ^
22:22:33 <m-relay> <3​21bob321:monero.social> Show dark mode
22:42:07 <m-relay> <h​ardenedsteel:monero.social> move everything to docs
22:42:23 <m-relay> <r​ecanman:kernal.eu> All user guides?
22:42:26 <m-relay> <h​ardenedsteel:monero.social> no more hugo vs astro discussion
22:42:39 <m-relay> <r​ecanman:kernal.eu> What? I'm getting very conflicting messages here
22:42:59 <m-relay> <h​ardenedsteel:monero.social> /s
22:43:09 <m-relay> <r​ecanman:kernal.eu> https://matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/v1/download/kernal.eu/QrzSWsuOqMYCvPaHHYePKCUE
22:44:17 <m-relay> <r​ecanman:kernal.eu> Wrote a script that will port the pages and remove most of redundant code. Sometimes formatting for small things will break so I replaced them with 'TODO'. Anyways, I haven't had much time to work on it today, and I am currently busy with other things. Just giving a progress update
22:44:51 <m-relay> <r​ecanman:kernal.eu> https://matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/v1/download/kernal.eu/ArKXJwbSmNIKjPdQdtlCLQGB
22:46:53 <m-relay> <r​ecanman:kernal.eu> There is still quite a lot that can be abstracted, just need to fiddle a little with the structure and CSS once I port everything. Because all of the CSS is custom, there is quite a lot of redundancy, although this is not the main goal of the port, so I'll delay that until the end
23:36:30 <nioCat> user guides like recreating wallet are quite useful
23:37:41 <m-relay> <s​yntheticbird:monero.social> https://matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/v1/download/monero.social/EjPTgnYiBHaDMnvjsOCKCjHd
23:38:32 <m-relay> <s​yntheticbird:monero.social> i18n with dynamic routes were easier than expected so I think i will manage to migrate all the translations in the port
23:45:49 <m-relay> <3​21bob321:monero.social> Create a contribute guide for astro too. Lets see what degree we need to use.
23:52:25 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> I like your old redesign