01:31:36 <m-relay> <diego:cypherstack.com> alright everyone, so we have an update here. 01:32:16 <m-relay> <diego:cypherstack.com> 1. syntheticbird has completed his demo. It's gud. 01:32:17 <m-relay> <diego:cypherstack.com> 2. recanmann has decided not to complete the Hugo project and returned the money 01:32:19 <m-relay> <diego:cypherstack.com> 3. I've redone my design in light mode: https://www.figma.com/design/OuY892nD4zD1CEQDvC2Kty/Monero-Website-Redesign-2024-(Copy)?node-id=0-1&t=WChf40qLM6EGubbi-1 01:56:07 <m-relay> <321bob321:monero.social> Demo when? 01:56:17 <m-relay> <321bob321:monero.social> We can pay 4 ripple 01:59:01 <m-relay> <hardenedsteel:monero.social> https://matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/v1/download/monero.social/cCGAfJojOcLVBZeNsxVUjONv 01:59:40 <m-relay> <hardenedsteel:monero.social> why? delist is only for EEA 02:51:48 <m-relay> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> I guess thats an important distinction (?) 02:59:53 <m-relay> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Hm, the notice doesnt seem to mention delisting of any trade pairs (such as xmr/eur) 03:00:35 <m-relay> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Just delisting users. 03:00:37 <m-relay> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> so does this mean that users outside of eea will still have access to xmr/eur? 03:39:53 <m-relay> <hardenedsteel:monero.social> most likely 03:40:51 <m-relay> <hardenedsteel:monero.social> > we will halt trading and deposits of all XMR markets (XMR/USD, XMR/EUR, XMR/BTC, XMR/USDT) for clients registered in the EEA. 03:41:40 <m-relay> <hardenedsteel:monero.social> https://jlai.lu/post/11049886 06:15:19 <m-relay> <rottenwheel:kernal.eu> Did you bring it up to them? Any news? 06:15:59 <m-relay> <hardenedsteel:monero.social> yes i did but i think my mail went into their spam folder 06:16:01 <m-relay> <rottenwheel:kernal.eu> It is a great opportunity for them to offer blockchain stats like lm's proprietary explorer does. We don't have anything like that on our side. That is open source, that is. 06:20:56 <m-relay> <hardenedsteel:monero.social> like this one? https://blockchair.com/bitcoin 06:22:13 <m-relay> <rottenwheel:kernal.eu> No. localmonero.co/blocks/stats 06:26:24 <m-relay> <hardenedsteel:monero.social> i dont think they would add a feature that is doesn't exist for any coin 06:27:15 <m-relay> <rottenwheel:kernal.eu> Gay. Haha. 06:27:42 <m-relay> <rottenwheel:kernal.eu> I'll push for someone to come up with something similar or reverse engineer LM's explorer until I get it. Some day... 06:33:48 <m-relay> <321bob321:monero.social> if localmonero is closed, why gate keep it 06:38:15 <m-relay> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Can we list 06:38:17 <m-relay> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> - xmr.directory 06:38:19 <m-relay> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> - monerica 06:38:21 <m-relay> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> - proxysto.re 06:38:23 <m-relay> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> (ill open prs) 06:39:32 <m-relay> <321bob321:monero.social> last one i know works 06:41:20 <m-relay> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Proxy store is officially recommended by tuta and others 07:10:05 <m-relay> <basses:matrix.org> not monerica 07:18:09 <m-relay> <hardenedsteel:monero.social> https://github.com/monero-project/monero-site/pull/2117 07:28:30 <m-relay> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Why 07:31:32 <m-relay> <basses:matrix.org> check monero main room, I @ you 07:31:49 <m-relay> <basses:matrix.org> scoll down after that to see what I replied with 07:42:12 <m-relay> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> is it a confirmed scam? 07:42:42 <m-relay> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> and its not a verified listing 07:43:10 <m-relay> <321bob321:monero.social> doesnt monerica have 5000 domains? 07:43:50 <m-relay> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> I'm sure they checked every last one of them /s 07:44:28 <m-relay> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> what ya gonna do about xmrbazaar? Those ads are posted by users 07:45:23 <m-relay> <321bob321:monero.social> ban doug 07:45:38 <m-relay> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Its not out job to cancel an aggregator because they listed something that we don't like. Is monerica a drug website? is xmrbazaar? 07:46:16 <m-relay> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> We have ppl on monero.social matrix making porn groups. Does that mean we shouldnt list monero.social matrix? 07:46:28 <m-relay> <321bob321:monero.social> inclusive 07:48:05 <m-relay> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Rando would say no to listing mysu bcuz of monerochan 07:48:19 <m-relay> <basses:matrix.org> that's the whole point of xmrbazaar, does it allow drugs or anything illegal tho? 07:48:37 <m-relay> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Yes, and no 07:48:54 <m-relay> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> It allows anything legal 07:49:22 <m-relay> <basses:matrix.org> foreseen, now mysu is dead 07:49:23 <m-relay> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> its not dead 07:49:32 <m-relay> <basses:matrix.org> ? 07:50:01 <m-relay> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Its very much alive and has regular updates to new repo 07:50:45 <m-relay> <basses:matrix.org> the fork? 07:50:54 <m-relay> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Yea 07:52:01 <m-relay> <321bob321:monero.social> depends where its legal 07:52:03 <m-relay> <basses:matrix.org> very new, can't recommend it to people 07:52:54 <m-relay> <321bob321:monero.social> or same dev, diff name 07:53:20 <m-relay> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> ? 07:53:38 <m-relay> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Its literally the same shit with some small changes and updates 07:53:48 <m-relay> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Read a little code, would ya 07:54:05 <m-relay> <basses:matrix.org> talking about trust 07:54:16 <m-relay> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Its not lije there is 60k lines of obfuscated code added 07:54:54 <m-relay> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> the changes are minor and easy to read 07:55:11 <m-relay> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> If theres a backdoor, it was there b4 the fork 07:55:22 <m-relay> <basses:matrix.org> lol 07:57:07 <m-relay> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Anyway, has anyone ever looked through cryptwerks listings? 07:57:54 <m-relay> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> For all I know, they list every DNM out there. (I've never looked thru the listings) 07:58:49 <m-relay> <basses:matrix.org> first thing on website is a scam betting/casino platform banner 08:00:44 <m-relay> <321bob321:monero.social> first things first i am a realist 08:01:01 <m-relay> <basses:matrix.org> how about we/community create an actual clean website open source, no affliate, legal in most countries, list actual useful products 08:01:53 <m-relay> <321bob321:monero.social> we can use google docs 08:02:14 <m-relay> <hardenedsteel:monero.social> why affiliate is problem and what are illegal stuff? 08:03:23 <m-relay> <321bob321:monero.social> use ublock and block elements 08:04:50 <m-relay> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> In my country, monero is illegal 08:05:01 <m-relay> <321bob321:monero.social> ban the country 08:05:08 <m-relay> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Remove the website altogether. Fkn criminals, all of you /s 08:05:23 <m-relay> <hardenedsteel:monero.social> https://banmonero.com/ 08:05:45 <m-relay> <basses:matrix.org> because it is mostly scams? drugs/casinos 08:06:04 <m-relay> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Casinos? 08:06:13 <m-relay> <321bob321:monero.social> we need a junkie to verify if the drugs are good 08:06:28 <m-relay> <321bob321:monero.social> then list 08:06:30 <m-relay> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Something wrong with casinos? 08:06:31 <m-relay> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Verified 08:06:38 <m-relay> <hardenedsteel:monero.social> we can fund with ccs 08:06:48 <m-relay> <321bob321:monero.social> good idea 08:06:55 <m-relay> <basses:matrix.org> gambling etc 08:07:04 <m-relay> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> ? 08:07:18 <m-relay> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Are you my lord and savior or smthn? 08:07:35 <m-relay> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> If i want to gamble or make porn, thats my choice 08:08:06 <m-relay> <hardenedsteel:monero.social> gambling isnt illegal everywhere 08:08:15 <m-relay> <hardenedsteel:monero.social> i just worried if monerica is too political to list on getmonero 08:08:17 <m-relay> <basses:matrix.org> then find it on your own? 08:08:26 <m-relay> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> it isnt illegal here. monero is illegal 08:09:18 <m-relay> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> And your morals don't apply to everyone 08:09:40 <m-relay> <basses:matrix.org> cryptocurrency you mean, to be specific? 08:09:48 <m-relay> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> We should delist women, gays, and anything else that some demographic decides they dont like 08:09:58 <m-relay> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> I mean privacy coins, like monero 08:11:00 <m-relay> <hardenedsteel:monero.social> @rottenwheel:kernal.eu btw blockchair team will respond in the pull requests: 08:11:01 <m-relay> <hardenedsteel:monero.social> https://github.com/monero-project/monero-docs/pull/72 08:11:03 <m-relay> <hardenedsteel:monero.social> https://github.com/monero-project/monero-site/pull/2243 08:11:18 <m-relay> <hardenedsteel:monero.social> Lead Developer* 08:11:20 <m-relay> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> And monerochan. Cant list any software that has monerochan in it 08:11:46 <m-relay> <rottenwheel:kernal.eu> Will respond, or will not respond? 08:11:54 <m-relay> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> We should delist stack wallet. It has an optional "chans" theme 08:12:09 <m-relay> <rottenwheel:kernal.eu> Neither have any replies from them, yet, at least. 08:12:21 <m-relay> <hardenedsteel:monero.social> they responded to my mail 08:13:07 <m-relay> <hardenedsteel:monero.social> | I apologize for the delayed response. I have forwarded your message to our Lead Developer. He mentioned that he will respond directly in a pull request on GitHub regarding the mentioned issues. 08:13:09 <m-relay> <hardenedsteel:monero.social> | 08:13:11 <m-relay> <hardenedsteel:monero.social> | We will also work on enhancing our Monero Explorer ASAP. 08:19:35 <m-relay> <rottenwheel:kernal.eu> plowsof: thoughts? https://github.com/monero-project/monero-site/issues/2380 08:27:17 <m-relay> <basses:matrix.org> how is that relevant tho? 08:28:12 <m-relay> <basses:matrix.org> you know that they can just bust down Monero anytime like they did with samourai devs 08:28:27 <m-relay> <basses:matrix.org> you know the saying "don't make it easy for them"? 08:28:58 <m-relay> <hardenedsteel:monero.social> no way... comparing monero to samourai 08:29:14 <m-relay> <hardenedsteel:monero.social> and samourai wallet were developed like 1-2 people 08:29:24 <m-relay> <hardenedsteel:monero.social> it was non-custodial but not decentralized 08:29:55 <m-relay> <hardenedsteel:monero.social> they can take out getmonero.org yeah if that's what you're worried 08:35:42 <m-relay> <hardenedsteel:monero.social> it means delisting just because you dislike something isn't acceptable. 08:44:11 <m-relay> <basses:matrix.org> very different, I already gave a factual reasoning 🤷 it hurts more than being helpful for getmonero.org 08:44:49 <m-relay> <basses:matrix.org> is it an unnecessarily risk? yes 08:44:52 <m-relay> <321bob321:monero.social> Delist ofrn the 08:44:58 <m-relay> <321bob321:monero.social> n 08:49:24 <m-relay> <hardenedsteel:monero.social> how gambling is risk? 08:51:35 <m-relay> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> We fund Russians on ccs.getmonero.org 08:51:37 <m-relay> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> and accept donations of any size 08:51:40 <m-relay> <basses:matrix.org> how it isn't? 08:52:10 <m-relay> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> how is it* 08:52:20 <m-relay> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Is playing poker a crime? 08:52:46 <m-relay> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> I see betting commercials every 9 mins 08:55:11 <m-relay> <basses:matrix.org> The Monero Project have any legal presence that have to comply with countires that impose sanctions? 08:57:40 <m-relay> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Apply that logic to gambling 08:58:18 <m-relay> <basses:matrix.org> bruh??? 09:09:23 <m-relay> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> ? 09:09:25 <m-relay> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Is gambling sanctioned by NATO ? 09:10:29 <m-relay> <basses:matrix.org> idc about NATO 09:10:57 <m-relay> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> ? 09:11:15 <m-relay> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> But u care about gambling? 09:11:26 <m-relay> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> ^ 09:11:54 <m-relay> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> you say this, then say you dont care abt nato 09:12:21 <m-relay> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Who is the "them" that you refer to? 09:13:46 <m-relay> <basses:matrix.org> yes, you asked me question as an individual, you can have whatever thoughts/opinions/beliefs 09:14:29 <m-relay> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> ^ 09:16:32 <m-relay> <basses:matrix.org> I was also talking about getmonero.org as a project and their idea of financial privacy they are promoting, not politics, anything else, focus on the tech. 09:17:23 <m-relay> <basses:matrix.org> idk why everyone took it personally as if I'm taking away their rights, freeze peach etc 09:18:31 <m-relay> <basses:matrix.org> Anyone that have scrutiny on Monero and want it fuck up and find any execuses/build a case? 09:19:16 <m-relay> <basses:matrix.org> Anyone that have scrutiny on Monero and want it fuck up and find any excuses /build a case? 09:22:59 <m-relay> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Build a case? "idc about nato or sanctions" tho 14:45:53 <m-relay> <hardenedsteel:monero.social> https://bit2me.com/buy-monero 14:45:55 <m-relay> <hardenedsteel:monero.social> EUR/XMR pair, i dont know if can be trusted 14:58:33 <plowsof> monero dot com use... moon?pay? 15:03:37 <plowsof> moonpay requires KYC iirc ignore, moonpay are kyc hungry (please upload a video/3d scan) the last time i checked them (6~months ago) 15:10:05 <plowsof> maybe an asterisk/reminder that xmr/fiat services require KYC e.g. for bit2me https://support.bit2me.com/en/support/solutions/articles/35000151169-how-do-i-verify-my-bit2me-account-step-by-step-