11:14:56 agree, pointless mentioning it 13:17:53 plowsof these people are retarded. 😂 13:21:35 plowsof, i love you 14:33:53 HardenedSteel what? 14:34:06 I'm not the one saying I'll remove bitcointalk. 😂😂😂 14:35:05 what's wrong with you? 14:35:23 Is this sensitive Sunday now? 14:35:42 Now comes plowsof with a yellow card? 🤔 14:38:35 Should ask rottenwheel #sensitiveskinquit from xmrbazaar bcuz ppl didnt cosign his ofrn hate 14:40:18 1st second: plowsof i need validation, you love me right? 14:40:19 2nd second: plowsof is going to join in on the group bullying me 14:40:39 I wonder if he can spell toxic 14:40:50 hopefully the love is not under duress (like the home alone 'i love you' scene) 14:42:29 its all consensual. And if you don't love me then you're just another bully 14:44:18 Lol. 15:51:11 https://github.com/monero-project/monero-site/issues/2386 16:18:33 what's the status of new design proposal? 16:18:35 @ofrnxmr:xmr.mx should we redesign workgroup/hangouts as you suggested in https://github.com/monero-project/monero-site/pull/2259#issuecomment-2355823513 16:22:28 I think so, but perhaps plowsof has a comment on it 16:35:14 looks good (monero hardware needs a revival e.g. vthors proposal goes through and we have firmware for low powered devices 16:35:43 otherwise remove monero HW until then (it's currently monero-plastic-enclosures) 16:37:32 as for the mail server, it was not working several months ago, and had a restart, i wasn't aware of the outdated hyperkitty version then 16:43:59 Hardware⊙go sells badges too 16:45:59 My @plowsof on the `lists` server thing wasn't meant to be "plowsof, fix please" but just to sanity check the whole comment. 16:45:59 ty sir 20:19:34 for [#2386](https://github.com/monero-project/monero-site/issues/2386) what are thoughts on removing the `/resources/research-lab/` page entirely and using https://moneroresearch.info/ ? 20:19:35 we can create new subdomain for it such as mrl.getmonero.org 20:19:41 ping @rucknium:monero.social 20:19:54 <3​21bob321:monero.social> Hmm 20:20:10 <3​21bob321:monero.social> Dvdfab rip rucks work? 20:21:34 moneroresearch.info is a lot of research, not just mrl 20:22:11 Mrl hasnt been updated because we dont really have full time researcher anymore 20:23:45 i don't think someone has to be "in" MRL to make research about XMR. 20:23:51 Used to be mostly the noether's. I think MRL is still important and the papers put out my MRL are important to display as "our" work. 20:23:53 moneroresearch.info isnt research lab work, but all research related to monero 20:24:24 Theres a difference between papers about monero, and papers for monero 20:26:44 When i say "for", i mean, even stuff like cypherstacks recent papers are good. But moneroresearch.info has speculative papers and other things that arent necessarily correct 20:26:45 I'm not saying it isnt a good resource. I'm saying it doesnt replace mrl 20:27:49 https://matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/v1/download/monero.social/ASIpMCsOzuNMkildACBYNcai 20:28:01 i think these are for monero 20:29:50 importing from moneroresearch.info to getmonero.org looks unnecessary work 20:29:51 what about categorizing them? would be easier 20:30:57 They are funded by ccs 20:31:15 They should probably be discussed in MRL and added to yhe website under MRL if necessary 20:32:02 though a review isnt the same thing that we typically publish 20:32:09 moneroresearch has an updated search function. a "monero only" list should be do-able hm 20:32:11 s/publish/post 20:32:57 We dont usually post peer reviews, or even audits afaik 20:32:59 exactly, otherwise we will have to keep updating the MRL page and also moneroresearch.info 20:33:03 which is doubling the work 20:33:22 moneroresearch.info is updated _far_ more often 20:33:35 Because it has _far_ more research papers 20:33:57 On a wide variety of subjects, again, some of which arent correct / are theoretical 20:34:24 Moneroresearch is more of a "topic monero" research library 20:34:36 Mrl is about things done on monero 20:35:02 as plowsof said ^ 20:35:37 https://matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/v1/download/monero.social/QUsuyaopyxofYZfGDXLVPmJu 20:35:59 Moneroresearch.info is mostly "about" monero-related topics. 20:36:03 Yes ^ exactly 20:36:45 i'd like to hear MRL's opinion on it 20:37:50 <3​21bob321:monero.social> Lab closed due to covid outbreak 20:37:56 <3​21bob321:monero.social> Patent zero there 20:38:57 <3​21bob321:monero.social> On a diff not when merges be deployed? 20:39:13 <3​21bob321:monero.social> When luigi does drive by ? 20:39:46 .merges 20:39:46 -xmr-pr- 2287 2313 2322 2342 2346 2364 2369 2377 2383 20:40:18 <3​21bob321:monero.social> Or binary’s yacht docks? 20:42:37 the website workgroup has compiled the above list of PR's for the next merge round 20:42:46 some missing / to be added soon 20:43:26 The above list was already merged 20:43:49 in my mind only 20:44:12 https://libera.monerologs.net/monero-site/20241013#c444567 20:44:21 Did the list not come thru to matrix? It shows no list here 20:44:32 Ah 20:44:33 yes, html tags issue 20:44:35 racist 20:46:00 Can add 2382 2376 20:46:13 2383 20:47:39 2383 in there, 2382 though , im trying to find what kraken actually supports but im behind a the european crypto wall .. i can't see the pairs 20:48:13 AUD is a no afaik 20:48:20 JPY as well 20:48:28 Japan banned all privacy coins many yrs ago 20:49:12 but i didnt bother to look into the list, since (like you) i live in north korea 20:49:32 No access to international exchanges to find out for sure 20:49:51 they wont show me their crypto pairs. it leads me to a generic page 20:50:34 Whattr ya waiting for 😆 20:50:40 i click 'trading pairs' it takes me to https://support.kraken.com/hc/en-us/articles/360000678446-Cryptocurrencies-available-on-Kraken 20:50:41 Merge some of these 😂 20:51:04 crossing the i's , Dotting the t's 20:51:38 " crossing the i's , Dotting the t's " << approved. Oh wait. Whoops 20:52:08 2383 < easy 20:52:22 2364 < easy 20:53:26 2364 grew in size tho :( lol 20:54:04 (incoming avifs bigger than outgoing png) 20:55:12 we'll have to remove the blockchain dot raw to compensate 20:57:47 2377 lost weight 21:02:18 because they had higher resolution 21:08:37 <3​21bob321:monero.social> I can watch website in 4k? 21:20:09 I still havent looked at diego's light theme redesign 21:20:40 https://www.figma.com/design/OuY892nD4zD1CEQDvC2Kty/Monero-Website-Redesign-2024-(Copy)?node-id=0-1&t=WChf40qLM6EGubbi-1 21:23:09 OFRNXMR I SEE YOUR MOUSE 21:23:53 I definitely like the light design 21:23:59 I definitely like the light design button 21:24:10 well the whole design 21:24:25 My rat? 21:24:43 indeed 21:26:33 Yeah I truly love the design 21:26:59 The buttons used on the light theme are better imo 21:27:06 cc Diego Salazar 21:27:29 I don't like the full-width dropdown menu however 21:27:39 I find these a little too annoying on small resolutions 21:27:46 maybe on mobile 21:27:54 maybe on mobile that's a good idea 21:28:16 hi it's me 21:28:51 hi just sharing my impressions on your latest figma 21:28:56 since ofrnxmr shared the link 21:29:18 ew 21:29:19 CIRCLE BUTTONS! 21:29:35 haha 21:29:52 lmao 21:30:39 <3​21bob321:monero.social> Get a room 21:30:54 #monero-design ? 21:31:15 <3​21bob321:monero.social> More departments then department of defence… 21:32:06 if Monero is to become a nation state, we must out bureaucracy them 21:32:07 <3​21bob321:monero.social> #monero-website-design&construct 21:32:17 or to beat nation states, rather 21:32:23 I don't know with who I just gone goblin mode on figma but it was hilarious 21:32:27 <3​21bob321:monero.social> We have an island 21:32:54 <3​21bob321:monero.social> With a telsa, we cant charge 21:33:37 #monero-monero 21:33:45 for very Monero-y discussions 21:33:53 hi 21:34:23 Everyone's thoughts on the light design? 21:34:49 <3​21bob321:monero.social> Can we pay syn 4 ripple to create another demo with new design plz and nothnx 21:35:11 Needs to be more orange, less red, less hero 21:35:19 Needs to be more orange, less red, less heroic 21:35:30 I think your monitor is broken 21:36:52 i think it looks good in light mode, the bonus being that a dark mode exists as well 21:37:36 <3​21bob321:monero.social> Dark mode seems very blm 21:37:43 <3​21bob321:monero.social> Like to dark? 21:38:37 <3​21bob321:monero.social> Like logo behind monero means money, hard to see 21:40:12 The website has undergone a hero's journey 21:40:38 this is hilarious because there was something behind there and people asked for it to be removed 21:40:43 <3​21bob321:monero.social> Thank you maria 21:41:01 <3​21bob321:monero.social> Missed h 21:41:10 <3​21bob321:monero.social> Mariah* 21:41:16 dealing with you philistines is the worst, but hey, you don't get to choose your family 21:41:47 <3​21bob321:monero.social> Light mode is fine 21:41:49 Martyr* 21:42:05 <3​21bob321:monero.social> Fine line between pleasure and pain 21:42:10 I adopted my parents 21:42:24 pov: you're a cat. 21:42:30 <3​21bob321:monero.social> More like group home 21:42:53 now we just need some individual to tell us if we're allowed to move to a new design or need to stay with the old one 21:43:06 move to a new design 21:43:11 but is there such a brave person among us? 21:43:18 <3​21bob321:monero.social> Syn 21:43:23 I allow it 21:43:28 New design 21:43:32 <3​21bob321:monero.social> PAY THEM 4 RIPPLE 21:43:37 SyntheticSecretary 21:44:07 Me and my 100 alts all say new design 21:44:12 Niocat is the tiebreaker 21:44:25 <3​21bob321:monero.social> 2/100 21:44:36 But need orange, not red, and need hero that is less obnoxious 21:44:40 even boog900 wants a new design (please if you see this message say you want a new design) 21:44:44 Multisig 21:44:48 <3​21bob321:monero.social> Nioc plz sign 21:45:11 Need to ping geodude /s 21:45:16 I just got back and am catching up 21:45:20 please hold 21:45:26 im holding 21:45:27 Quick, vote before he comes 21:45:33 https://www.figma.com/design/OuY892nD4zD1CEQDvC2Kty/Monero-Website-Redesign-2024-(Copy)?node-id=0-1&t=WChf40qLM6EGubbi-1 21:45:34 Niocat 21:45:36 <3​21bob321:monero.social> Moh sounds shit btw 21:45:43 just received some cat vids which ofc come first 21:46:02 <3​21bob321:monero.social> Priorities 21:46:08 Diego put a cat in the hero 21:46:43 Morpheus like #wtf 21:46:55 https://www.figma.com/design/OuY892nD4zD1CEQDvC2Kty/Monero-Website-Redesign-2024-(Copy)?node-id=0-1&t=WChf40qLM6EGubbi-1 21:46:57 morph, what do you think? 21:47:24 Be as harsh as possible 21:47:26 Morph no pressure if you say no I'll dox you. no pressure 21:47:43 It’s cool 21:47:57 Better than I imagined 21:48:05 Say "could be more orange and less red tho" 21:48:12 And "the hero is too big" 21:48:22 This 21:48:23 Say you prefer circle buttons 21:48:29 Hahaha 21:48:31 NO 21:48:41 Rounded buttons, but not circle 21:48:51 Thx morpheus you're the best 21:48:53 my message directly precedes this comment so I will take it to mean agreement with me sorry 21:49:06 I just released your family. 21:49:24 he's keeping one last person just in case 21:49:35 <3​21bob321:monero.social> Leverage 21:49:44 Not on my screen 21:49:49 mandatory professionalism 😎 21:50:11 damn only 2 confirms for scrollback 0_o 21:50:12 Works on my screen 21:50:14 Thread locked 21:50:15 Ban for racism 21:50:26 <3​21bob321:monero.social> Next question does plowsof and hardensteel know how to use atro boy? 21:50:31 <3​21bob321:monero.social> Astro* 21:50:38 afaik they don't 21:50:45 https://matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/v1/download/xmr.mx/qoskCyHYAbtrSnmJtPxkCLvL 21:50:56 It isn't too hard to learn, but changes to the layout are not going to be too common 21:51:00 <3​21bob321:monero.social> Deep fake 21:51:42 But the hero is big indeed 21:51:44 Could shrink a little 21:51:45 I swear I will make the buttons triangle, don't @ me 21:51:49 But cool design all around 21:53:16 New design better than current design? 21:53:17 Please respond to this comment I am making right now with a thumbs up or thumbs down emoji. If you're on IRC you can say 'new' or 'old'. 21:53:19 Triangle might be cool 21:53:51 I will obviously not be taking offense if we like the old design more. I really don't care. :P 21:54:19 old design is trash. Who the hell made that anyway? /s 21:54:38 Its like it was made by chatgpt 0.1.2 /s 21:54:43 https://matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/v1/download/cypherstack.com/hRSVNRXytTRUfCEqadBnQcNG 21:55:05 Jeffro256, is that you? 21:55:15 Its like it was made by trashgpt 0.1.2 /s 21:55:40 There's a joke in there somewhere. 21:56:05 Diego this is probably something to ask in #monero-community (without forgetting to ask everyone to not chat so that everyone sees the vote taking place) 21:56:24 Who cares about #community 21:56:27 good gravy sir, we need to make a meta issue on this 21:56:49 <3​21bob321:monero.social> Tbh less chiefs the better 21:56:52 We should post it on reddit 21:57:03 We should post it on reddit /s 21:57:06 <3​21bob321:monero.social> Town 21:57:09 ofrnxmr: pay my residential ip. I beg you 21:57:11 <3​21bob321:monero.social> So ofrn cant see 21:59:13 "better than i imagined" diego sir, do you think that was a compliment or an insult 21:59:31 *Welcome, to the brain games* 21:59:39 Both! 21:59:43 circle button looks so big when compared to rounded 22:00:01 smaller circle button 22:00:12 <3​21bob321:monero.social> We can send plowsof and harden to astro school if needed 22:00:21 LMAO 22:00:33 circle button got cancer 22:00:45 <3​21bob321:monero.social> You have to use spacex rocket tho 22:00:48 just replace monero icon with get started button 22:00:58 just replace the monero icon with get started button 22:01:42 <3​21bob321:monero.social> If its taking this long for homepage, image other pages….. 22:01:52 <3​21bob321:monero.social> Seraphis will be here first 22:02:35 You're not wrong. 22:02:39 Fcmp++ 22:02:46 Some will say it's by design 22:02:47 3 months or less 22:03:00 Nice pun 22:03:10 For testnet but mainnet won't release until Q2/Q3/2025 22:03:26 Mainnet will release in december on wownero 22:03:44 you mean. december 2025? 22:03:49 no 22:04:06 christ 22:04:25 Wow released bp before monero audits were done 22:04:57 And tryptych on their testnet before monero afaik 22:05:10 Triptych* 22:05:27 do we even use xmr testnet 22:06:02 Every 4 or 5 yrs now 22:06:24 Used to use it a lot more bcuz we hard forked every 6 mth 22:06:56 Now we barely even use monero's master branch lol. 22:06:57 yep it was a good time 22:07:03 <3​21bob321:monero.social> *5mins 22:07:05 when drama didn't exist 22:07:14 😆 22:07:43 Telling everyone to go fork themselves every 6 months haha 22:07:54 Dont like it? fork off 22:08:03 <3​21bob321:monero.social> Fork you!! 22:08:39 it looks we have more dev activity today compared to the last few years 22:08:48 <3​21bob321:monero.social> Juili? 22:09:09 wrong room 22:09:15 hi 22:10:08 add to code of conduct 22:10:12 Must say hello 22:11:21 <3​21bob321:monero.social> 1. EHLO 22:11:23 <3​21bob321:monero.social> 2. ask question in wrong room 22:11:25 <3​21bob321:monero.social> 3. Get yelled at by ofrn “wrong room” 22:11:48 <3​21bob321:monero.social> In this order 22:13:53 For real? 22:13:55 Nice 22:20:37 <3​21bob321:monero.social> Thats what luke said 22:22:13 Testnet for monero in dec 22:22:34 Audits likely soon after / after bugs ironed out 22:22:47 Wow probably before audits are completed 22:29:17 Woah 22:29:19 That's faster than expected 22:46:18 There's a different 3 in my books: /ignore ofrn 22:47:52 soft 22:49:27 I remember when rotten was my #1 fan 23:03:51 ofrnxmr: pay my residential ip. I beg you <<>> pamp eet and I will pay for your residence 23:05:02 .bbl 23:11:38 Brazilian?