18:17:14 <plowsof> monerobull, thoughts on merging Monerica? https://github.com/monero-project/monero-site/pull/2398#issuecomment-2439585169 18:18:12 <m-relay> <monerobull:monero.social> i dont see any reason against it 18:20:31 <plowsof> our leader has spoken 18:21:27 <m-relay> <syntheticbird:monero.social> i know a bunch of people that will seethe in seeing monerica being merged 18:21:38 <m-relay> <syntheticbird:monero.social> (i'm not against) 18:22:55 <m-relay> <basses:matrix.org> I seethe 18:23:42 <plowsof> i don't know any backstory, other than what was raised in the original PR : strange practices of pointing to the source of the live page when it wasn't. seems like they have addressed that. with back end improvements too for automated site delisting if offline 18:24:51 <m-relay> <syntheticbird:monero.social> plowsof some people believe that monerica is quote and quote *"woke"* which have supposedly led to delisting of merchants that were consider supportive of hate speech. This is generally the same people that were happy to see monerica being ddos 18:25:38 <m-relay> <syntheticbird:monero.social> with owners that were considered to be supportive of hate speech* 18:25:45 <plowsof> hm 18:26:53 <plowsof> if the @monero twitter handle tweeted should we list monerica? what that help us? 18:27:07 <plowsof> would that* gather feedback? 18:27:26 <m-relay> <syntheticbird:monero.social> there is 50% chance it turns into a shitstorm 18:27:41 <plowsof> "hm" intensifies 18:27:47 <m-relay> <basses:matrix.org> We are very exited to ask the following question: 18:27:47 <m-relay> <basses:matrix.org> should we list monerica? 18:27:53 <m-relay> <syntheticbird:monero.social> but ig it's worth a try 18:28:09 <m-relay> <syntheticbird:monero.social> like, if its a shitstorm ignore and return to "hm" if it succeed then we have our answer 18:28:26 <m-relay> <syntheticbird:monero.social> there is nothing to lose really imo 18:28:46 <nioCat> <syntheticbird:monero.social> there is 50% chance it turns into a shitstorm <<>> only 50% ? 18:29:19 <m-relay> <basses:matrix.org> why would a twitter account ask with 400k+ following tweet about some rando lisitng project that might scam someone due to their sponsor listing 18:29:56 <m-relay> <basses:matrix.org> why would a twitter account 400k+ following ask about some rando lisitng project that might scam someone due to their sponsor listing 18:30:19 <m-relay> <basses:matrix.org> why would a twitter account 400k+ followers ask about some rando lisitng project that might scam someone due to their sponsor listing 18:30:49 <plowsof> account with 400k* 18:31:33 <plowsof> so we can ask 400k people what they think or me, you and him 18:31:47 <m-relay> <basses:matrix.org> 500k very soon, need to make a giveaway to reach it quickly 18:32:04 <m-relay> <basses:matrix.org> 2 BTC giveaway 18:32:21 <plowsof> https://github.com/monero-project/monero-site/pull/2398 looks like a merge. i see nothing suspicious about this back story 18:32:31 <plowsof> so i would hold off :S 18:33:07 <plowsof> cryptwerk.de , i have no idea if they like or dislike woke people 18:33:28 <plowsof> i know nothing of the people who run it 18:33:51 <m-relay> <basses:matrix.org> >Also, Monerica in the last year went from having no means of business viability to having sponsorship and affiliate links. There is no way these will be removed. So if it can't be added for that reason, why then is Cryptwerk allowed when it clearly displays affiliate links and ads? What exactly makes Cryptwerk allowed instead of Monerica? 18:33:53 <m-relay> <basses:matrix.org> Sums it up 18:34:03 <plowsof> sorry, cryptwork.com 18:34:19 <m-relay> <basses:matrix.org> just remove never mention listings that have sponsorship and affliates 18:34:39 <m-relay> <basses:matrix.org> remove & never mention* 18:35:10 <m-relay> <syntheticbird:monero.social> if im not dumb I think monerica had to get that sponsorship because of the ddos attacks 18:36:04 <plowsof> github pages or? 18:36:37 <m-relay> <syntheticbird:monero.social> all i remember was that a lot of people were laughing at monerica owner for not using github pages (which he supposedly didn't understand was possible and ddos proof) 18:37:23 <m-relay> <basses:matrix.org> more likely to be taken down 18:37:24 <m-relay> <basses:matrix.org> idk 18:37:29 <m-relay> <syntheticbird:monero.social> yeah maybe 18:37:49 <m-relay> <syntheticbird:monero.social> plowsof I would ask for more opinions in the channel before merge 18:37:53 <m-relay> <syntheticbird:monero.social> rottenwheel ? 18:38:04 <m-relay> <syntheticbird:monero.social> ofrnxmr ? 18:39:16 <m-relay> <rottenwheel:kernal.eu> In favor of monerica being listed. 18:39:43 <m-relay> <rottenwheel:kernal.eu> I would not make a tweet for it since that sets a precedent and moving forward anyone's PR to site could ask for the same. 18:42:35 <m-relay> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Monerica? Merge 18:42:58 <m-relay> <syntheticbird:monero.social> sounds like a merge then 18:59:01 <plowsof> how about a tweet promoting Monerica as a great monero directory just to see 👁️ 19:01:34 <m-relay> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> are we excited? 19:03:54 <plowsof> Revuo was tweeted before it was listed on getmonero. precedent has been set?? 19:09:31 <m-relay> <basses:matrix.org> bribed by CCS 19:19:53 <m-relay> <rottenwheel:kernal.eu> You are not getting my point, briton. 19:20:24 <m-relay> <rottenwheel:kernal.eu> You are proposing tweeting if it should be listed on gm, not tweeting the directory out. Two different things. 19:37:04 <m-relay> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> shouldnt do either 19:37:10 <m-relay> <plowsof:matrix.org> tweet the directory out, not asking if it shuld be listed 19:37:21 <m-relay> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Might trigger some non-americans 19:37:38 <m-relay> <plowsof:matrix.org> its part of the prelisting package 19:39:34 <m-relay> <rottenwheel:kernal.eu> Are you mentally handicapped? 19:39:51 <m-relay> <rottenwheel:kernal.eu> What does it say in here? 19:40:10 <m-relay> <rottenwheel:kernal.eu> <plowsof> if the @monero twitter handle tweeted should we list monerica? what that help us? 19:41:03 <m-relay> <plowsof:matrix.org> rottenwheel the bridge is having issues 19:41:48 <m-relay> <321bob321:monero.social> Ctrl alt defeat 19:43:03 <m-relay> <321bob321:monero.social> Cloudflare🚀 19:43:10 <m-relay> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Build a bridge and get over it 19:43:39 <m-relay> <basses:matrix.org> I'm selling a bridge 19:43:39 <m-relay> <plowsof:matrix.org> everyone please wait for rottenwheel to be outraged that i want to tweet bit2me because it made a PR then we can continue with the discussion 19:44:22 <m-relay> <basses:matrix.org> https://xcancel.com/monero/status/1783196341662875799#m 19:44:24 <m-relay> <basses:matrix.org> already done 19:44:46 <m-relay> <plowsof:matrix.org> thanks rando, checking the replies 19:44:54 <m-relay> <321bob321:monero.social> Got hit by cargo ship 19:45:25 <m-relay> <basses:matrix.org> 1 clueless guy, random chinese, scam link 19:45:26 <m-relay> <rottenwheel:kernal.eu> I'm not outraged lol. 19:45:29 <m-relay> <plowsof:matrix.org> 16k view on that tweet rando, not a peep 🤷 19:45:32 <m-relay> <basses:matrix.org> welcome to twitter crypto lmao 19:46:00 <m-relay> <321bob321:monero.social> “Why you selling me crap” 19:46:01 <m-relay> <syntheticbird:monero.social> I tried nostr recently. apps sucks 19:46:05 <m-relay> <basses:matrix.org> it will trigger the same engagements 19:46:23 <m-relay> <321bob321:monero.social> Bluesky? 19:46:29 <m-relay> <321bob321:monero.social> Or wat eva its called 19:46:45 <m-relay> <basses:matrix.org> nostr not bluesky 19:46:54 <m-relay> <syntheticbird:monero.social> ? Bluesky is a different network, and i've nothing against it if you filter out all the political post 19:47:08 <m-relay> <basses:matrix.org> filter all 19:47:09 <m-relay> <321bob321:monero.social> Oh 19:47:16 <m-relay> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> cant stop tweets from getting out unless its "dont tweet revuo" 19:47:38 <m-relay> <plowsof:matrix.org> streissand effect 19:47:40 <m-relay> <321bob321:monero.social> Welcome to the new interweb, where people think they can tell you everything 19:47:50 <m-relay> <syntheticbird:monero.social> for real, political spectrum is like: 19:47:51 <m-relay> <syntheticbird:monero.social> Far-left < Mastodon < Bluesky | Twitter > Truth.social > Far-right 19:47:54 <m-relay> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> monero twitter follows shit cex exchanges 19:48:06 <m-relay> <basses:matrix.org> choose a better client? (I never tried nostr) 19:48:22 <m-relay> <321bob321:monero.social> Our audience is truth.social 19:48:23 <m-relay> <syntheticbird:monero.social> only good one i found was primal 19:48:25 <m-relay> <321bob321:monero.social> Merica merica! 19:48:28 <m-relay> <syntheticbird:monero.social> which is founded by the dipshit that wanted to spam monero network 19:48:38 <m-relay> <plowsof:matrix.org> twitter account wants tips on who to follow... unfollow.. tweet... retweet #monero-twitter:monero.social 19:48:46 <m-relay> <321bob321:monero.social> Lol 19:48:57 <m-relay> <basses:matrix.org> unfollow if they delisted 19:48:59 <m-relay> <321bob321:monero.social> follow the leader 19:49:10 <m-relay> <basses:matrix.org> I use nitter so can't check 19:49:24 <m-relay> <321bob321:monero.social> Nitter is alive? 19:49:35 <m-relay> <321bob321:monero.social> Or that cancelx one? 19:49:48 <m-relay> <syntheticbird:monero.social> yes some madlads have either residential proxies or a pool of thousands of ban accounts 19:50:07 <m-relay> <basses:matrix.org> lmao, there's literally a room for every little thing 19:50:14 <m-relay> <321bob321:monero.social> Twatter proxy farm 19:50:23 <m-relay> <basses:matrix.org> monero-servers ? 19:50:45 <m-relay> <321bob321:monero.social> Thats for IT department 19:50:46 <m-relay> <basses:matrix.org> yes 19:50:59 <m-relay> <321bob321:monero.social> We are website design and construct department 19:51:31 <nioCat> <plowsof:matrix.org> 16k view on that tweet rando, not a peep <<>> that's just the AIs reading the interwebs 19:51:50 <m-relay> <321bob321:monero.social> Speaking of design, people looked at syn astro boy website alternative? 19:52:11 <m-relay> <321bob321:monero.social> Sometimes irc messages dont appear on the fluffychat 19:52:35 <m-relay> <basses:matrix.org> he did any design changes? also not hosted on website 19:52:52 <m-relay> <basses:matrix.org> does monero have a coolify instance? 19:53:33 <m-relay> <basses:matrix.org> ssaw it mentioned on monero-docs room, it should be used more often like in this case 19:53:47 <m-relay> <basses:matrix.org> host syn website on it 19:54:01 <m-relay> <syntheticbird:monero.social> Nope my mission was simply to build up a migrated getmonero.org on Astro. 19:54:22 <m-relay> <basses:matrix.org> astro site* 19:54:23 <m-relay> <syntheticbird:monero.social> This was in the intent of examinating whether to use Hugo or Astro 19:54:31 <m-relay> <321bob321:monero.social> Rando so many questions officer 19:55:24 <m-relay> <321bob321:monero.social> Ofrn pointed it to coolify on public repo. But its only criminal onion link 19:55:47 <m-relay> <321bob321:monero.social> @ofrnxmr ^ link 19:55:49 <m-relay> <syntheticbird:monero.social> http://xi2nhkuzm2hzgyedprs3n65wmudrq4rekbzire67oomiwk5x5h6w7nqd.onion/ 19:56:08 <m-relay> <321bob321:monero.social> Excited that syn has the link 20:00:38 <m-relay> <plowsof:matrix.org> rottenwheel: monerica has an onion link? or do they get a pass 20:01:26 <m-relay> <basses:matrix.org> need to have a good report at the end of month 20:02:08 <m-relay> <rottenwheel:kernal.eu> plowsof since when having a hidden service set up is mandatory for getting listed on gm? 20:02:17 <m-relay> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Idk why it doesnt like to deploy commits 20:02:22 <m-relay> <rottenwheel:kernal.eu> Also, since when am I the hidden service auditor? 😅 20:02:29 <m-relay> <321bob321:monero.social> Racists 20:02:36 <m-relay> <syntheticbird:monero.social> Racists 20:02:50 <plowsof> monero towns final boss 20:03:18 <m-relay> <rottenwheel:kernal.eu> Ah, uh... 20:03:19 <m-relay> <321bob321:monero.social> Rotten is onion link compliance ? 20:03:21 <m-relay> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Ccs final bonus boss 20:03:38 <m-relay> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> At least ccs and repo dropped the clousflare gate 20:03:39 <m-relay> <rottenwheel:kernal.eu> Speaking of, didn't you just miss a particular agenda item in today's community meeting, Mr. plowsof? 🤔 20:03:41 <m-relay> <basses:matrix.org> terrorist kycnotme have i2p and tor mirrors 😱 20:03:52 <m-relay> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Can finally use ssh on the repo over tor 20:04:06 <m-relay> <321bob321:monero.social> Why you hiding sir 20:04:21 <m-relay> <basses:matrix.org> lmao, rootne can't be fr 20:04:23 <m-relay> <321bob321:monero.social> Proxy chains to somewhere else too? 20:04:39 <m-relay> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> so wwhat if i am? 20:05:01 <m-relay> <321bob321:monero.social> Enabler 20:05:16 <m-relay> <321bob321:monero.social> Merica! 20:06:05 <m-relay> <321bob321:monero.social> Are you on the latest coolify? 20:07:04 <m-relay> <rottenwheel:kernal.eu> https://github.com/monero-project/monero-site/pull/2398#issuecomment-2439722242 20:07:21 <m-relay> <syntheticbird:monero.social> not you coolify 20:07:25 <plowsof> didnt bring the monerobull item up in the community meeting as it was short for time. theres also nothing actionable there yet. 20:07:43 <m-relay> <syntheticbird:monero.social> monerobull is an item now ? 20:07:49 <m-relay> <321bob321:monero.social> We will wait till they comply 20:07:51 <m-relay> <syntheticbird:monero.social> can i stack it? 20:08:00 <m-relay> <321bob321:monero.social> Yest 20:08:03 <m-relay> <321bob321:monero.social> There is a set 20:08:38 <plowsof> our leader monerobull already agreed to list monerica. we could have just saved time and listened 20:09:05 <m-relay> <321bob321:monero.social> Chairman bull 20:09:09 <m-relay> <321bob321:monero.social> All hail! 20:09:23 <m-relay> <monerobull:monero.social> there is also someone getting way more pay than me, i dont think i am the leader 20:11:20 <m-relay> <321bob321:monero.social> Diego just high jacked your job 20:11:43 <m-relay> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Save time>? We need to run laps 20:12:24 <m-relay> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> lowjacked 20:14:09 <m-relay> <diego:cypherstack.com> Meeting tomorrow. Weee 20:14:16 <m-relay> <syntheticbird:monero.social> Finally 20:14:22 <m-relay> <syntheticbird:monero.social> the workgroup will work 20:14:26 <m-relay> <syntheticbird:monero.social> website will be done 20:14:30 <m-relay> <syntheticbird:monero.social> and geonic will be ignored 20:14:33 <m-relay> <diego:cypherstack.com> We will vote on whether we should vote on the website. 20:14:47 <m-relay> <syntheticbird:monero.social> nested vote? 20:14:57 <m-relay> <diego:cypherstack.com> I expect this to be a contentious meeting, so please block out four hours of time. 20:15:02 <plowsof> can the site we use to gather votes have round buttons for yes no 20:15:18 <plowsof> preferably no javascript 20:15:27 <m-relay> <diego:cypherstack.com> This will be voted on in our next meeting four weeks from tomorrow. 20:21:06 <m-relay> <syntheticbird:monero.social> anyone with moderator privilege could pin this message ? 20:21:27 <m-relay> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> to soon 20:21:48 <m-relay> <321bob321:monero.social> We will find out the answer in the next ccs 20:21:54 <m-relay> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Pinning only works for element x 20:21:55 <m-relay> <diego:cypherstack.com> Idea. Buttons with concave corners. 20:22:07 <m-relay> <321bob321:monero.social> Convex 20:22:15 <m-relay> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Sounds good 20:22:33 <m-relay> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Can they shaped like a kitten? 20:22:35 <m-relay> <syntheticbird:monero.social> second order derivative < 0 ? 20:22:54 <m-relay> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Still with concave corners 20:23:13 <m-relay> <321bob321:monero.social> Ruck will need to anaylse ? 20:24:34 <plowsof> )wow( 20:25:16 <m-relay> <diego:cypherstack.com> ) Learn More ( 20:25:39 <m-relay> <syntheticbird:monero.social> ) I hate cabbage ( 20:26:00 <m-relay> <321bob321:monero.social> And it hates you 20:40:49 <m-relay> <321bob321:monero.social> I dont