14:23:57 <m-relay> <b​asses:matrix.org> light theme users are racists
14:29:21 <m-relay> <s​yntheticbird:monero.social> THANKS
14:29:26 <m-relay> <s​yntheticbird:monero.social> finally someone telling the truth
15:01:43 <m-relay> <h​ardenedsteel:monero.social> @ofrnxmr:xmr.mx is it important to have XMR/Fiat pair? Fiat support sounds more important to me
15:17:40 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> My other acct/element just died
15:18:20 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> `fiat support` would trick me into installing bisq, only to find out that i have to 1. Buy btc then 2. Swap btc
15:51:40 <m-relay> <h​ardenedsteel:monero.social> we already covered if an exchange has native support or not
15:52:39 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> thats native support for xmr, not native support for xmr<>fiat
15:52:59 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Bisq has native support for xmr
15:53:14 <m-relay> <h​ardenedsteel:monero.social> you cant deposit XMR i think
15:53:16 <m-relay> <h​ardenedsteel:monero.social> unlike BTC
15:53:25 <m-relay> <h​ardenedsteel:monero.social> you cant use DAO with XMR
15:53:43 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> right. But xmr is supported on the platform
15:54:00 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Unlike hodl, where hodl removed xmr support (afaik)
15:54:05 <m-relay> <h​ardenedsteel:monero.social> doesn't have Integrated Monero Support
15:55:04 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Imo ita confuaing to say "Fiat support = yes" on a monero website, if there is no monero fiat support
15:55:29 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> So whether it supports fiat is irrelevant. The info ppl are looking for is fiat <> xmr support
15:56:31 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> as an example, bisq _could_ implement monero-wallet-rpc and have a full monero implementation, but still not support fiat<>xmr
15:57:25 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> The reason we highlight btc<>fiat support is to clarify this. But i dont think we need to advertise btc<>fiat support - only need to advertise xmr<>fiat support
15:57:51 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> If haveno was listed, it would say yes to xmr<>fiat and yes to native xmr
15:59:26 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> With "fiat support", it the the cards would be confusing. You wouldnt know that you cant buy xmr using fiat, and it would he confusing why bisq is even listed, 
15:59:28 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> fiat support yes, native xmr support no == what am i buying with fiat? How do i get xmr?
17:17:29 <m-relay> <h​ardenedsteel:monero.social> many old CEXs didn't support xmr/fiat pairs such as binance
17:17:30 <m-relay> <h​ardenedsteel:monero.social> however buying XMR were still easy
17:18:40 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Buying xmr on bisq with fiat is not easy
17:19:32 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> You literally have to buy btc and then swap btc on chain
17:21:04 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Buying whatever-coin on a cex to swap is a painless and nearly free experience. Swapping fiat > btc > xmr is a cumbersome, time consuming, and expensive experience that requires using btc on chain
19:30:42 <m-relay> <h​ardenedsteel:monero.social> then there's no reason to add "native XMR" comparison