17:30:20 <m-relay> <b​asses:matrix.org> we should remove godex 
17:30:21 <m-relay> <b​asses:matrix.org> https://github.com/monero-project/monero-site/issues/2430
17:32:41 <m-relay> <b​asses:matrix.org> is this case unique to godex only, or other exchanges does the same?
17:42:41 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Really, this is not a monero problem
17:43:31 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> If i have any _transparent_ coin that isnt "clean", then ANY swapper that deals with kyc exchanges will flag it
17:43:44 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> That goes for every single one on the list
17:44:01 <m-relay> <b​asses:matrix.org> yeah, seems irrelevant and more of a personal issue
17:44:10 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> The only swappers that _dont_ deal with kyc exchanges are wizardswap, exch, majestic
17:45:08 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> If you want to swap your dirty transparent coins, you pretty much HAVE to use a dex. that a problem with the transparency of your coin.
17:46:05 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> You want kraken/kucoin/binance to accept your "found on roadside" usdt, and you know that kraken/kucoin/binance wont accept it _at all_.. thats a you problem
17:46:08 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Not a middleman swapper problem
17:47:15 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> tldr: use a dex or a swapper that holds their own reserves if you need to swap your less-than squeaky-clean coins or are going to trigger aml due to amounts.
17:48:13 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> we list kraken. Should we delist kraken because they dont accept bitcoin coming from DNM? so who should we delist a middleman that deposits directly to kraken
19:01:35 <plowsof> stealthex are now a B rating on trocador, while quickex are @ D 😕
22:23:22 <m-relay> <h​ardenedsteel:monero.social> do kraken charge fee for false positives?
22:35:12 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> they dont have false positives
22:35:16 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> They force kyc or close your shit
22:35:37 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> If you cant validate the SOF, say gbye to your acct
22:36:23 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> They force sof or close your shit
23:29:59 <m-relay> <h​ardenedsteel:monero.social> do u pay fee if you validate and everything is fine? never seen
23:30:55 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> You dont pay a fee, they just dont debank you
23:31:42 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Kraken makes $ off of you for every trade you make. Theyre happy to kick you from the platform if you cant provide sof
23:31:58 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> A swapper doesnt pre-kyc you or make $ if the swap isn't completed
23:32:48 <m-relay> <h​ardenedsteel:monero.social> u dont pay fee for pre-kyc verification on kraken
23:35:46 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> You pay a fee for everything trade made on kraken
23:35:58 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> You pay a fee for every trade made on kraken
23:36:32 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Kraken charges withdraw fees and trade fees