00:46:36 dunno what to put in images for now but the pages should have images > <@redsh4de:matrix.org> i think the new accept Monero page should be divided into a main page and two different sub-pages 00:46:42 https://mrelay.p2pool.observer/m/matrix.org/wzrEYagNwipnvZVQgKTwyFUS.png (image.png) 00:51:32 https://mrelay.p2pool.observer/m/matrix.org/GwYxcXCLTHVTXIocZDKzELfF.png (image.png) 01:19:12 @redsh4de:matrix.org: The content here doesnt really make sense 01:21:16 It makes sense if the step 2 and 3 are specific to simply using a wallet's receive screen 01:22:52 "test it by receiving" isnt meaningful advice. Its a waste of time and overcomplicates things imo 01:23:18 You need xmr to do that, which implies that you already know how to use a wallet 01:24:44 Not all wallets allow entering a receive amount to generate a qr code 01:25:34 Using something like btcpayserver is essentially the same setup whether in-person or online 01:28:04 I'd prbably combine the two pages 🤔 01:29:14 In-person is the same as online, it all depends on the scale of your business, if you need invoice management etc 01:33:19 processor (hands off, high integration): nowpayments etx 01:33:19 self-hosted (hands on, high integration): Btcpayserver, bitcart 01:33:19 webapp (basic, uses view wallet, no store integration or invoice management) : bitrequest.io 01:33:19 wallet (basic, low security unless using a view wallet, no integrations or invoice management): any wallet 08:30:09 @ofrnxmr:xmr.mx: true, good point 08:51:50 .merges+ 2584 08:52:35 .merge+ 2584 08:52:35 Added 09:02:38 @redsh4de:matrix.org: @ofrnxmr:xmr.mx: Which mobile wallets had merchant features? Cake/Monero.com, Monerujo are the ones that come to mind 09:03:06 want to add tags to them in the download page 09:11:52 @redsh4de:matrix.org: None really 09:13:30 Cake has ability to put fiat amount to generate a qr code. I dont remember if monerujo does as well 09:14:34 But thats not a true merchant mode, as anyone who can touch the screen can swipe left/right and enter settings etc 09:20:47 I imagine most wallet include the ability to create a qr code uri that includes the amount 09:20:47 cake (incl fiat), stack, monfluo, probably monerujo, unstoppable 09:31:47 and thats nothing special. Its just adding ?tx_amount= the the uri 09:35:09 yeah, mean purely adding amounts to the URI - for simple in-person stalls and the like 09:35:51 person shows their mobile wallet QR, person scans and pays, merchants sees tx in their wallet 09:36:43 Its a pretty basic feature that just about every wallet has 09:39:35 as-implmented, none of the wallets gear it towards merchant usage 09:39:56 Something like bitrequest is superior 09:42:52 https://bitrequest.github.io 09:42:52 Heres the old bitrequest webapp. I imagine the full app is improved 09:43:12 downloaded the mobile app, its a wrapper for the webapp 09:43:54 Hm. They hid the webapp link on their homepage for whatever reason 09:44:27 theres always https://hotshop.onrender.com/#/ if you're in a pinch 09:44:59 Hotshop and bitrequest essentially the same thing :P 09:45:13 But BR is actively maintained 09:45:55 https://github.com/Monero-Merchant/monero-merchant 09:45:55 there's also this one, iirc it initially was only for the android handheld PoS terminals for Monerokon but now works on all android devices 09:46:16 Thats not a simple thing to use 09:46:24 i'd recommend bitcart over monero-merchant 09:46:31 It always worked on all android devices :P 09:47:11 Monero-merchant requires you to learn how to use moneropay. Its only 1 piece of the puzzle 09:47:32 Btcpayservers POS app is also pretty easy to use 09:47:47 ^ > <@ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> processor (hands off, high integration): nowpayments etx 09:47:48 @ofrnxmr:xmr.mx: yeah that adds complexity then 09:49:35 High integration meaning you can integrate it with your store software, like shopify etc 09:52:04 bitcart/btcpay have third party instances, not sure if relevant here tho 09:52:30 its all about scale imo 09:53:10 If youre selling a pair of used socks on craigslist, then you can either create a qr code or just tell the person how much to send 09:54:06 If youre running a lemonaide stand, you probably want ppl to scan & pay, which 9/10 wallets have this functionality, but bitrequest/hotshop are better for this 09:55:00 If youre running a profitable lemonaide stand, you should be using btcpayserver/bitcart to properly track your invoices 09:56:19 If you dont want to deal with xmr and just want the cash, you should be using a service provider like nowpayments cryptomus etc 10:00:41 ... lemonade* 10:26:59 condensed one-page variant 10:27:05 https://mrelay.p2pool.observer/m/matrix.org/TeWWlSZCNiTZpTemAvdFoebY.png (image.png) 15:44:37 maybe tabs like in the current page > <@redsh4de:matrix.org> would like to get your input on the roadmap page too, any ideas for laying the items out? i think the two kanban inspired variants could work pretty well, but not sure how to make the history section look clean, the accordions work but i dont like that when you expand them it creates assymetry in the UI and looks kinda off 15:44:44 https://mrelay.p2pool.observer/m/matrix.org/NdndNZpjBMuRYkxRBVKKgSWX.png (image.png) 16:27:40 I think i like the other one 16:28:33 at least, asthetically. the tabbed version might be better ux tho? 16:47:08 I think i just need to flip the years around and it will look better 16:47:40 UX wise its better as the whole layout doesnt shift around like with the accordions