08:51:14 <br-m> <thomasbuilds:matrix.org> I've seen recommended way to buy monero coins has changed in beta. old was links monerica while new omits it?
08:52:11 <br-m> <thomasbuilds:matrix.org> also when I click on kycnot.me I get "Access to kycnot.me was denied"
08:57:57 <br-m> <thomasbuilds:matrix.org> monerica and cryptwerk are no longer recommended options?
09:41:35 <br-m> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> i dont understand what youre asking
09:41:55 <br-m> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> oh, i missed the beta part
09:43:18 <br-m> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> no. the new website splits buying and spending onto different pages
09:43:35 <br-m> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> old website had monerica and cryptwerk in the merchants section. merchants became spending
09:43:55 <br-m> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> https://beta.getmonero.org/get-started/merchants/
09:44:10 <br-m> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> old website had basicswap, etc listed under exchanges, new website has them under spending/echanged
09:44:22 <br-m> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> https://beta.getmonero.org/get-started/exchanges/
09:45:40 <br-m> <thomasbuilds:matrix.org> just noting that with beta when someone wants to buy monero he doesn't see monerica and cryptwerk first nor do they appear after they click on "Get coins".
09:45:56 <br-m> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> @thomasbuilds:matrix.org: ip address / tor maybe?
09:46:16 <br-m> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> @thomasbuilds:matrix.org: monerica and cryptwerk are directories, not exchanges
09:46:27 <br-m> <thomasbuilds:matrix.org> I'm on vpn yeah but they shouldn't restrict me for using vpn
09:46:27 <br-m> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> and belong with other directories, like xmrbazaar, kycnot.me etc
09:46:42 <br-m> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> complain to kycnot..me - it works for me over tor
09:47:17 <br-m> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> exchanges belong with exchanges, catch-all directories belong with directories. my 2c
09:47:35 <br-m> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> you can buy crypto from xmrbazaar as well, but it isnt an exchange
09:47:44 <br-m> <thomasbuilds:matrix.org> right but they link to exchanges and when I started monero I bought some monero there, with the links monerica sponsors. > <@ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> monerica and cryptwerk are directories, not exchanges
09:48:01 <br-m> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> its a yellowpages / phonebook for services that.. service xmr
09:48:16 <br-m> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> which also include exchanges (monerica and kycnot.me also list exchanges)
09:48:44 <br-m> <thomasbuilds:matrix.org> anyways I'm not affiliated to any of them and don't have any preference but worth noting that they will get less visibilty imo
09:48:59 <br-m> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> monerica also lists garbage sponsorships sometimes, so it isnt a place id recommend that people trust as a source to acquire xmr/ just a [pont, not really relevant here
09:49:40 <br-m> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> i recall them listing wallets and swappers that were rejected from getmonero for scamming orcharging hidden fees
09:49:44 <br-m> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> like coin wallet
09:50:22 <br-m> <thomasbuilds:matrix.org> yeah then good they got removed from the get coins section
09:50:51 <br-m> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> s/listing/promoting them at the top of page as sponsors
09:52:20 <br-m> <thomasbuilds:matrix.org> sorry wdymN
09:52:22 <br-m> <thomasbuilds:matrix.org> ?
09:52:43 <br-m> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> monerica had coin wallet in the sponsored section at the top of their homepage
09:53:17 <br-m> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> and coinwallet was scraping fees from transactions, on the backend, and also used changelly as their swap provider
09:54:09 <br-m> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> users are warned against using changelly, and wallets that do non-standard stuff are rejected from listing on getmonero
09:54:25 <br-m> <thomasbuilds:matrix.org> then good those will get less visibilty since it isn't advertised as "get coins" but rather spend xmr in beta
09:58:34 <br-m> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> yeah, that was the idea with splitting the pages up. the old website was a big odd to have them together 
09:58:53 <br-m> <thomasbuilds:matrix.org> when will beta be official?
09:58:53 <br-m> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> plenty of controversy with listing/delisting the "merchants" cryptwerk and monerica
09:59:38 <br-m> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> @thomasbuilds:matrix.org: probably some time closer to fcmp++ launch
10:00:29 <br-m> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> need to spend some time on a few loose ends, such as moneropedia and ensuring gaps are covered or old links redirect
20:00:33 <xmr-pr> redsh4de opened pull request #2709: downloads: add skylight wallet [beta]
20:00:34 <xmr-pr> > https://github.com/monero-project/monero-site/pull/2709
20:03:21 <br-m> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> @redsh4de:matrix.org should it be under lws wallets as well? Or instead? I think its still primarily an lws wallet, though the latest version did add node support
20:03:28 <br-m> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Hm @sgp_:monero.social what do you think
20:03:42 <br-m> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> https://2709.beta.monerodevs.org/downloads/community/#wallets
20:05:29 <br-m> <sgp_> maybe since you already have tags, instead of a separate section for LWS, it can be a tag? So Skylight would have both a light-wallet and a node-scan (names TBD) tag?
20:06:20 <br-m> <sgp_> Edge also supports "full sync" now: https://edge.app/blog/company-news/monero-wallet-full-sync-key-import/
20:09:28 <br-m> <sgp_> dropdowns under wallet for:
20:09:28 <br-m> <sgp_> type: any/lightweight/normal
20:09:28 <br-m> <sgp_> monero-only: any/yes/no
20:09:28 <br-m> <sgp_> hardware: any/yes/no
20:09:28 <br-m> <sgp_> [... more lines follow, see https://mrelay.p2pool.observer/e/4a2I57ALc2lqcXJJ ]
20:10:23 <br-m> <sgp_> https://mrelay.p2pool.observer/m/monero.social/QhiInvRvXdaFSjlOwPmYVrEk.jpeg (This is how we handle sorting in history for Spice, maybe that helps inspire?)
20:12:21 <br-m> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> I think youre right
20:12:31 <br-m> <syntheticbird> @sgp_: whats this wallet
20:12:39 <br-m> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> I forgot that edge added node support, so now there are no lws-only wallets
20:12:46 <br-m> <sgp_> spice wallet shhhhh
20:12:55 <br-m> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> So tags are probably the only logical option
20:13:21 <br-m> <syntheticbird> @sgp_: where download
20:13:24 <br-m> <jpk68:matrix.org> @sgp_: What do the numbers on the right mean?
20:13:27 <br-m> <syntheticbird> (dont you dare saying no)
20:13:44 <br-m> <sgp_> @syntheticbird: you should wait for the proper ANN but https://github.com/MAGICGrants/spice-wallet
20:14:27 <br-m> <sgp_> it's basically "skylight, but for serai"
20:14:50 <br-m> <syntheticbird> @sgp_: STFU AND TAKE MY MONEY
20:18:35 <br-m> <sgp_> @jpk68:matrix.org: in this specific case, the number of history entries matching the filter type