01:26:48 .balances 01:26:48 hx: Your default coin is now set to XMR. Change with coins command. 01:26:49 hx: Balances • (≈$0 USD) • Staking: N/A • [N] 01:27:11 o_O 02:11:56 * Bill48105 slaps Wolf0 with a large smelly strap-on 04:37:55 .faucet 04:37:56 N​orkle: How many chars in flak​e 04:38:02 5 04:38:02 Norkle: @bonuspot tipped 0.000002 XMR to Norkle [386b7b17] Wait ≈23 hrs 56 min before trying again. @bonuspot: 0.01494122 06:51:28 Who governs least governs best. 06:52:18 Monero is a tool for enforcing less governing of people's lives. 06:55:01 okay 06:55:04 As Henry David Thoreau put it: 06:55:05 I heartily accept the motto, – “That government is best which governs least”; and I should like to see it acted up to more rapidly and systematically. Carried out, it finally amounts to this, which I also believe, – “That government is best which governs not at all”; and when men are prepared for it, that will be the kind of government which they will have. Government is at best but 06:55:12 an expedient; but most governments are usually, and all governments are sometimes, inexpedient. 06:55:18 I think he'd be pretty positive about Monero. 06:55:34 I see, you are using IRC client instead of Matrix. Massive respect for that. 06:55:51 Thanks . . . ? 06:56:38 sorry, out of the blue, but I've been rather discouraged from participating in #monero due to the matrix long message text files that would get posted here 06:56:47 (I might use Matrix more if I liked any of the clients.) 06:56:50 Oh, I see. 06:57:33 Yeah, I do find those long message pastes from Matrix kinda annoying, too. They're more a "feature" of the Matrix bridge than of Matrix itself, though, as I understand it. 06:58:04 . . . or, at least, I think an improved matrix bridge could make it less annoying. 06:58:58 I don't think I've seen one of those long message pastes for a while in here, though. Maybe I just wasn't paying attention at the right times to see them. 06:59:16 I see. that's good to hear, I'll spend more time here then 08:41:26 Any reason this channel is not bridged to Matrix by the way? 08:59:06 hi im trying the check transaction function on the windows gui 08:59:26 i enter tx id, address and tx proof (signature) 08:59:31 then click check and nothing happens 09:30:45 i tried https://xmrchain.net/prove and output match was false for 2 outputs 09:31:15 https://www.exploremonero.com/ said there is no matching output 09:31:28 how did i send funds incorrectly? 10:32:06 narf: Are you trying to prove a transaction you sent or a transaction that you are expected to receive? 10:32:17 trying to prove i sent 10:32:41 https://monero.stackexchange.com/questions/6134/how-do-i-as-a-sender-verify-that-my-transaction-actually-arrived 10:32:43 Can you use that guide? 10:36:59 Results: Total received: 0 10:37:50 xmrchain.net/prove says "Sum XMR from matched outputs (i.e., incoming XMR): 0.000000000000" 10:54:48 To be clear, you used the recipient address and the private tx key (not the view key)? 10:55:09 yes 11:00:20 Which OS are you using? 11:00:28 windows 10 11:07:26 Perhaps worthwhile to check for clipboard malware? Quite prevalent in crypto 11:08:01 im running malwarebytes so it should be fine 11:08:42 it's never fine 11:08:46 all antiviruses are scam 11:11:06 ive quadruple checked the receiving address 11:19:50 https://www.exploremonero.com/transaction/c6b5626988afa1eb17b036f3c0b2462214106c439bf915344b1b7212038092bf 11:35:44 This address doesn't own output 0 with pubkey: 30ce996113770e9423c836e4b376... for amount: Confidential 11:36:07 This address doesn't own output 1 with pubkey: 61b07f6aa72770dcb7546eeb5ac5... for amount: Confidential 11:36:14 Total received: 0 11:39:27 https://xmr.llcoins.net/checktx.html 12:38:30 .beg 12:38:31 p​arazyd: How many #'s ​are in 0 12:38:34 0 12:38:34 parazyd: Oops that is not correct. Try again later. (No not immediately or I'll just ignore you..) 12:38:44 lol 14:39:41 Ongoing train wreck over at fork XHV (Haven Protocol) which aims to build stablecoins on top of the Monero codebase: 14:39:43 https://havenprotocol.medium.com/haven-protocol-exploits-mitigation-plan-and-next-steps-d7a2b1a65654 14:40:25 Seems they intend to roll back the blockchain a still undetermined number of blocks 14:40:52 And then this gem at then end of the Medium article: "We are offering 20,000 xUSD bounties for introductions to any developers who ultimately accept a full time offer with Haven and stay committed for at least three months." 16:06:20 rbrunner: what happened to XHV? 16:08:38 Best read the Medium article I linked. 16:08:57 Do you have it in any log? 16:09:29 rbrunner: just read it. yeah, it is a train wreck 16:09:42 I wonder how shit their code is in comparison to that of monero 16:10:58 looks like they wrote it in C++, so perhaps their code isn't low quality, they just don't have enough experienced devs 16:11:07 I imagine what they try / tried is quite hard, and they had nowhere to check how to do it I guess, so maybe it's not that surprising 16:15:19 question: are IRC users of cryptocurrency channels also spammed with scammers, just like Discord and Reddit users are? 16:20:09 not as much as discord, reddit or telegram 16:20:23 the severity of the issue depends on the channel 19:09:34 .faucet 19:09:34 ap​otheon: How many​ chars in turn 19:09:38 4 19:09:38 apotheon: @bonuspot tipped 0.000005 XMR to apotheon [69244f35] Wait ≈23 hrs 54 min before trying again. @bonuspot: 0.01493622 19:09:56 16:10 < PapuaHardyNet> looks like they wrote it in C++, so perhaps their code isn't low quality, they just don't have enough experienced devs 19:10:11 How does "they wrote it in C++" mean it's not low quality code? 19:10:24 I must be missing something. 19:10:51 I'd expect that the reason they wrote it in C++ is the simple fact the Monero codebase is C++. 19:26:26 xmr is the only true cryptocurrency 19:27:06 I kinda wish it had a smell, like real cash. lol 19:27:33 nobody has coded the sense of smell yet 19:32:51 I wouldn't go sniffing too much USD cash if I was you. 19:33:21 Basically all cash that has been in circulation for a few months has fecal matter on it. 19:33:36 . . . and maybe some cocaine. 19:33:41 also, cocaine. making for a tough decision as to whether to sniff or not 19:34:12 I heard something like 70% of all cash has cocaine residue on it.. 19:34:31 90% for US bills 19:34:38 It turns out that number was inflated, and it has probably come down (har) since then, but it's still a lot. 19:34:43 https://www.nationalgeographic.com/science/article/cocaine-on-money-drug-found-on-90-of-us-bills 19:34:47 moreso with 100$'s 19:35:13 or maybe the 90% was the inflated number, and 70% is more accurate 19:35:35 . . . but fecal matter is still about 98%, just like how 98% of most statistics are made up. 19:35:47 maybe they just tested cartel cash 19:36:23 germs are good for you 19:36:24 I think they were testing a (slightly less obviously) biased sampling, like maybe all money seized as evidence or something like that. 19:36:30 s/money/cash/ 19:38:17 luckily, there's a currency that cannot be tainted by anything :) 19:39:09 except mass media? 19:40:42 ndorf: indeed 19:41:01 We're talking about knowledge of OpenBSD -- right? 19:41:10 the untaintable currency 19:41:25 * apotheon checks the channel name. 19:41:28 * apotheon squints a bit. 19:41:34 Hmm. Maybe ndorf meant Monero. 19:41:45 hehe 19:44:50 I actually used monero to donate to an app developer the other day. better than payfail 19:45:32 that payment processing corporation that holds your money hostage.. 19:45:46 monero doesn't do that 19:59:52 cash hasn't smelled good since they updated the inks decades ago 20:01:09 I ate rocks as a kid so I rarely get sick 20:19:08 .beg 20:19:11 k​ico: How many ch​ars in read 20:19:17 4 20:19:17 kico: @bonuspot tipped 0.0000116 XMR to kico [d021d446] Wait ≈23 hrs 53 min before trying again. @bonuspot: 0.01492462 20:22:20 I used Monero to buy a fountain pen with a Monero themed design.