00:43:17 <kor1> people running pruned nodes: how much space do you need? my ssd is smol
00:44:37 <selsta> 35GB
00:45:40 <kor1> yeah i can handle that, thanks!
00:52:23 <ds4> what is the most trusted cold-storage solution for moneroj?
01:04:12 <Mochi101> paper wallet
01:15:45 <ds4> I've considered it but like how do you even generate it securely?
01:29:52 <Mochi101> ds4, offline
01:35:58 <selsta> you can put https://moneroaddress.org/ on a USB stick and then generate a seed on an offline computer
02:19:20 <remanifest> wallet bal
02:19:21 <Wallet> remanifest: Access denied for bal. Are you logged in?
03:07:54 <Bill48105> DENIED
03:08:01 <Bill48105> Wallet bal
03:08:02 <Wallet> Bill48105: 0.01206 XMR (≈$2.51)
03:08:04 <Bill48105> whale
03:15:28 <Mochi101> .bal
03:15:28 <Wallet> Mochi101: 0.0128601 XMR (≈$2.68)
03:15:46 <Mochi101> I have more bal than Bill48105 
04:25:51 <raecarruth> .bal
04:25:51 <Wallet> raecarruth: 0 XMR
04:25:54 <raecarruth> :(
04:28:49 <Wolf0> .tip raecarruth 0.01
04:28:50 <Wallet> Wolf0 tipped 0.01 XMR (≈$2.1) to raecarruth [f7e38bf0]
04:34:49 <Mochi101> Wolf0 gave you the tip raecarruth 
04:35:00 <Mochi101> ;)
04:35:52 <Mochi101> I'm sure there's no symbolic meaning to it though.
04:36:29 <Mochi101> You can brag about it if you want to though.
04:39:36 <raecarruth> exithanks Wolf0 <3
04:39:56 <raecarruth> watch your mouth Mochi101 
04:41:44 <Mochi101> I'm the second poorest guy in Mexico... don't even have a mirror.
04:50:33 <raecarruth> that's unfortunate
08:23:05 <parazyd> .beg
08:23:08 <Wallet> p​arazyd: How many letters in h​appy
08:23:11 <parazyd> 5
08:23:11 <Wallet> parazyd: @bonuspot tipped 0.0000046 XMR to parazyd [05bdb415] Wait ≈23 hrs 55 min before trying again. @bonuspot: 0.01453906
14:05:21 <remanifest> I'm using monero-wallet-cli, and after a period of inactivity, my wallet locks. Is there a way for me to pass a password file to unlock it?
14:07:24 <rottenstonks> Tails v4.20 is out. Get it here: https://tails.boum.org/install/download/index.en.html
14:07:25 <rottenstonks> Changelog: https://gitlab.tails.boum.org/tails/tails/-/blob/master/debian/changelog
14:07:54 <Mochi101> remanifest, try help set
14:08:17 <Mochi101> I don't have a wallet check what the exact command is right now
14:09:51 <Mochi101> But it's in there. You can disable it or change the time for it to automatically lock.
14:17:58 <Wolf0> remanifest: you can turn off the locking
14:57:01 <boldsuck> Is the ban-list still needed/recommended? On public-node's with monerod v0.17.2.0
14:57:57 <boldsuck> gui.xmr.pm/files/block_tor.txt
14:58:16 <muhkey> afaik should not be needed anymore
14:58:28 <muhkey> but someone else can confirm or deny
15:04:51 <boldsuck> OK. Then I'll leave one with and one without running and watch that.
15:05:50 <muhkey> fair enough :)
15:10:33 <muhkey> .beg
15:10:33 <Wallet> m​uhkey: How ma​ny characters in pray
15:10:36 <muhkey> 4
15:10:36 <Wallet> muhkey: @bonuspot tipped 0.000003 XMR to muhkey [32ad134b] Wait ≈1 day 36 sec before trying again. @bonuspot: 0.01453606
15:10:40 <muhkey> .duckcall
15:10:40 <Wallet> muhkey: ・゜゜・。。​・゜゜(')> 🦆 'QUACK QUACK!!'
15:10:44 <muhkey> .befr
15:10:44 <Wallet> muhkey: IT GOBBLED THE TREAT! Time: ≈3.78 sec Ratio: 8 of 10 Treats: 1 of 2
15:27:08 <Mochi101> .faucet
15:27:08 <Wallet> Mo​chi101: Of 8 ? 3, whic​h is 3
15:27:11 <Mochi101> 3
15:27:12 <Wallet> Mochi101: @bonuspot tipped 0.000001 XMR to Mochi101 [f7f39124] Wait ≈23 hrs 59 min before trying again. @bonuspot: 0.01453506
17:05:46 <remanifest> Reviewed help set, and the problem is that my password contains quotes in it
17:06:06 <remanifest> So when I try to pass it via monero-wallet-cli, it doesn't read the password in its entirety
17:06:24 <remanifest> It reads fine from the file, because it assumes the entire thing is a string that needs to be read
17:06:35 <Mochi101> hmmm
17:06:58 <remanifest> And in order to "set" anything with the cli, I need to input the password
17:07:26 <apotheon> Having not read the related backscroll, maybe I'm off-base here, but . . . is the quote problem related to the fact your shell is doing stuff with the quotation marks?
17:07:27 <remanifest> Maybe I need to just remove quotes and apostrophes from the password
17:07:36 <remanifest> I'm using zsh
17:07:41 <apotheon> Oh, does it contain both double-quotes and apostrophes?
17:07:44 <remanifest> And doubtful that that's the case
17:07:52 <remanifest> It does
17:08:04 <apotheon> damn, that's hell for entering stuff at the shell
17:08:21 <remanifest> Yeah, I can't really "escape" them either, because escape chars are valid in passwords too
17:08:43 <apotheon> If they're parsed out by the shell, it's not a problem for the password input.
17:08:44 <remanifest> What would be best is if the cli would interpret anything passed as a string literal when passed to that function
17:09:48 <apotheon> For a password like LelsF83D'FJV"c98 I'd recommend doing this if entering the password from the shell: 'LelsF83D\'FJV"c98'
17:10:17 <apotheon> The shell should remove the \ and the surrounding '' quoting before the program parses the input.
17:10:36 <remanifest> That assumes I want to even know what my password is :)
17:10:52 <remanifest> I don't want to have to do anything to it except copypasta
17:10:57 <remanifest> Or read from a secure file
17:11:21 <remanifest> I'm going to try just excluding single and double quotes
17:15:33 <remanifest> That worked
17:16:01 <remanifest> Changed the password with the GUI client and then was able to use it in CLI
17:16:08 <Mochi101> right on
17:16:36 <apotheon> $ <passwordmanager> <category> <specificpass> | sed "s/'/\\\\'/g" | sed "s/^/'/" | sed "s/$/'/" | xsel
17:16:52 <apotheon> wrap it in an alias
17:17:24 <apotheon> . . . but yeah, excluding quotes can do it too.
17:18:19 <apotheon> coulda done it in a single (more complicated) regex, but woulda required remembering the sed syntax for capturing matches
17:19:39 <remanifest> I think the "ain't nobody got time for that" meme works here
17:19:56 <remanifest> My password isn't realistically going to be compromised anyway
17:20:46 <remanifest> But respect to the sed & xsel skills heh
17:20:51 <apotheon> I didn't test the 'LelsF83D\'FJV"c98' option; it might need more backslashes.
17:21:00 <apotheon> . . . but the sed stuff I tested.
17:21:11 <apotheon> remanifest: thanks
17:21:15 <apotheon> I love xsel.
17:22:21 <apotheon> Conrad Parker gets my respect for creating it.
17:46:47 <remanifest> Yeah, whenever I use these tools, I just recognize that we stand on the shoulders of giants.
17:46:51 <remanifest> They're the true geniuses
21:00:15 <remanifest> wallet balance
21:00:15 <Wallet> remanifest: Access denied for balance. Are you logged in?
21:00:26 <remanifest> Who do I need to talk to about fixing this wallet thing?
21:00:49 <remanifest> I'm logged in because you literally have to be logged in to use palladium.
21:35:06 <lous1F> https://i.imgur.com/uGlTfSg.png
21:52:56 <remanifest> .c 31
21:52:56 <Wallet> remanifest: 31F -> ≈-0.56C
21:53:02 <remanifest> .f 31
21:53:02 <Wallet> remanifest: 31C -> ≈87.8F
22:01:43 <rottenwheel> https://twitter.com/rottenwheel/status/1415062874838507521