00:58:15 <thecure> .beg
00:58:17 <Wallet> t​hecure: How m​any digits is 9
00:58:23 <thecure> 1
00:58:23 <Wallet> thecure: @bonuspot tipped 0.0000006 XMR to thecure [e652d328] Wait ≈23 hrs 56 min before trying again. @bonuspot: 0.01359347
01:39:22 <apotheon> Please mine Monero, solo or as part of a small pool, for the good of the network.
01:39:39 <apotheon> Please do it safely, though.
02:57:23 <Mochi101> apotheon, safely how?
06:27:08 <Metamorphosis> what is up
06:27:09 <Metamorphosis> .faucet
06:27:10 <Wallet> Me​tamorphosis: How many cha​rs in pay
06:27:11 <Metamorphosis> 3
06:27:12 <Wallet> Metamorphosis: @bonuspot tipped 0.0000075 XMR to Metamorphosis [09bfaaa0] Wait ≈1 day 41 sec before trying again. @bonuspot: 0.01358597
09:46:53 <Zta> I have a very newbie question, I think: Can I make the monero-rcp use an existing wallet address instead of a local wallet file?  And why not? =)
10:24:31 <selsta> Zta: a wallet address?
10:25:19 <selsta> a wallet address is not enough
11:33:58 <Zta> No, I suppose some sort of key pair is necessary as well.
11:41:11 <Pny> .faucet
11:41:12 <Wallet> ​Pny: How many toes do humans normally have if they lost h​alf
11:41:21 <Pny> 5
11:41:22 <Wallet> Pny: @bonuspot tipped 0.0000066 XMR to Pny [8c339509] Wait ≈23 hrs 53 min before trying again. @bonuspot: 0.01357937
15:22:55 <ndorf> Zta: https://www.getmonero.org/resources/developer-guides/wallet-rpc.html#generate_from_keys
15:56:54 <apotheon> Where did Mochi101 go?
16:16:07 <psionic> will monero ever moon? or it will slowly die down like dash?
16:17:27 <azy> #fortunetellers
16:23:33 <apotheon> psionic: . . . or just gradually increase in value with a bit of volatility when BTC gets nuts from time to time.
16:23:45 <apotheon> That's an option, too.
16:24:43 <apotheon> Monero isn't as attractive for speculators, but it's more attractive for people who actually want/need a good cryptocurrency for the purposes for which cryptocurrencies are most useful as currencies per se, so its adoption is likely to be somewhat different from adoption patterns for BTC.
16:25:04 <apotheon> How to predict that is . . . unknown, generally.
16:42:32 <knaccc> i'm embarrased to now know this: why is there so much variation in btc block sizes, and how is it possible that e.g. a block just mined a few minutes ago is 2MB in size?! (block 693877) https://www.blockchain.com/btc/blocks?page=1
16:42:37 <knaccc> to not*
16:42:58 <rottenwheel> SegWit?
16:43:25 <hyc> yeah, segwit effectively raised the ceiling from 1MB to 2MB
16:43:42 <rottenwheel> :)
16:43:49 <knaccc> hyc thanks, i don't understand why most blocks aren't hitting 2MB then
16:44:07 <rottenwheel> it's not a hard value; can oscilate anywhere between 1 mb and 2 mb.
16:44:12 <hyc> it's not so straightforward. 
16:44:44 <knaccc> cool, thanks both of you for the segwit tip. i think i need to read this rottenwheel
16:44:50 <knaccc> oops read this https://jimmysong.medium.com/understanding-segwit-block-size-fd901b87c9d4
16:44:54 <hyc> it's much like XMR txns have prunable proofs
16:45:06 <hyc> the unprunable part is still restricted to 1MB
16:45:27 <knaccc> ah ok that's a fantastic summary, thanks
16:46:06 <knaccc> i also wonder if this chart is wrong https://www.blockchain.com/charts/avg-block-size
16:46:19 <knaccc> i wonder if it's falling because of the hashrate drop
16:46:45 <knaccc> and so they're counting fewer than the usual amount of blocks per 24hrs before dividing
16:46:55 <knaccc> tx per block plummeting too https://www.blockchain.com/charts/n-transactions-per-block
16:47:42 <rottenwheel> ye, for some reason after china's mining shenanigans, btc tx. count has decreased considerably.
16:48:08 <hyc> supposedly miners are powering up again in their new locations by now
16:48:12 <rottenwheel> it's a good case for some conspiracy theory, if i may. choyna might've been profiting off of users transacting.
16:48:33 <rottenwheel> yeah. it went from +150 EH/s or whatever to 60 EH/s. now it's a bit over 100 EH/s.
16:48:55 <rottenwheel> .btcmempool
16:49:27 <rottenwheel> the good thing is, transacting in btc has been cheap for one or two weeks. 1 sat/vB clears in couple minutes.
16:50:16 <knaccc> wow yeah btc txs look strangely "cheap"
16:50:31 <apotheon> Chinese government can probably get away with more conspiracy stuff than US government, given the fact that people in China seem to be at least motivated to act like they believe the official story more despite any obvious irregularities, and maybe just push themselves to believe more than people in the US.
16:51:16 <apotheon> How cheap are the transactions?
16:51:21 <apotheon> I haven't been following that.
16:52:20 <hyc> considering that xmr volume has grown to 10% of BTC's ... maybe that's an actual migration of BTC users to XMR
16:52:21 <rottenwheel> just visit mempool.space.
16:52:39 <rottenwheel> we went from purging value being i don't know, <6-7 sats/vB, to 1 sat/vB.
16:53:00 <rottenwheel> currently 1.5k txs. in mempool. months ago it was north of 100k pending txs.
16:53:11 <rottenwheel> lol, no hyc.
16:53:12 <knaccc> wow
16:54:04 <knaccc> mempool.space v. pretty
16:54:06 <hyc> if such a migration were to happen, it would look like this tho
16:54:32 <hyc> one XMR txn replaces N coinjoin/mixer txns on BTC
16:54:41 <apotheon> hyc: That's interesting.
16:55:13 <knaccc> or maybe everyone just started churning more :)
16:55:17 <apotheon> I hadn't thought of it that way.
16:56:04 <apotheon> There was a huge spike in Monero prices recentlyish, up to about 500 USD.  That could've been a mass migration period.
16:56:07 <apotheon> in theory
16:57:28 <apotheon> . . . especially if these are people who are just maintaining some amount of cryptocurrency for occasional use, as opposed to buying for speculative trading purposes.
16:58:20 <rottenwheel> white house market...
16:58:27 <rottenwheel> and the spamming attack whatever nothingburger.
16:58:47 <apotheon> I don't think I understood any of that.
16:58:57 <rottenwheel> some samourai wallet enthusiasts are buying. i highly doubt it is a 'migration' from btc to xmr. just pipe dreaming.
16:59:07 <apotheon> maybe
16:59:11 <rottenwheel> the spamming attack whatever nothingburger or the whm? lol.
16:59:21 <apotheon> both
16:59:34 <rottenwheel> oh sunshine, ignorance is bliss.
16:59:41 <rottenwheel> you don't wanna know, i guess.
16:59:52 <apotheon> It's nice to be patronized.  Thanks.
17:00:01 <rottenwheel> quite welcome. :)
17:00:09 <apotheon> . . .
17:05:43 <raecarruth> :D
17:05:47 <raecarruth> rottenwheel: <3
17:06:01 <rottenwheel> raecarruth <#
17:08:20 <nioc> rotten knows all but doesn't tell
17:08:34 <rottenwheel> get your 10th booster coin.
17:08:50 <rottenwheel> i heard the omega, delta, beta, alfa and sparrow variants are inbound.
17:09:25 <nioc> with does that have to do with anything 
17:11:05 <apotheon> Oh, WHM.  I *have* heard of that.
17:11:21 <apotheon> Do people sell anything other than drugs there?
17:11:40 <rottenwheel> conterfeit goods and stuff. allegedly.
17:12:10 <apotheon> I'm not sure what value there is in "counterfeit goods", unless you mean things made in violation of patent law.
17:12:25 <apotheon> . . . which I wouldn't call "counterfeit", per se.
17:12:44 <apotheon> "Pay a bunch of money for this logo!"  "No."
17:12:55 <rottenwheel> lol.
17:12:57 <apotheon> I guess some people just really want something that looks like Prada.
17:13:01 <rottenwheel> ok apotheon.
17:13:09 <apotheon> or Breitling
17:13:15 <apotheon> but don't want to shell out for the real thing
17:13:19 <apotheon> Maybe I'm missing something.
17:13:30 <hyc> I used to buy knockoff windowsmobile phones from China, and install android on them
17:13:39 <rottenwheel> just create an account, log in and find out yourself? maybe?
17:13:45 <rottenwheel> nice gig.
17:14:27 <hyc> for some things nobody really cares what's underneath the label
17:14:47 <apotheon> hyc: That's handy, but . . . are they counterfeit, or just work-alikes for less money than the originals?
17:15:39 <hyc> well, they claimed to be HTC touchpro2 phones, but didn't have the same guts. slower CPUs, less RAM
17:16:15 <hyc> definitely not built by HTC ...
17:18:05 <apotheon> gotcha
20:48:35 <thecure> .bet
20:48:35 <Wallet> thecure: ≈$0.0286 • ≈ value of: 1 BET • Source: cmc/ccc/altm
20:48:42 <thecure> .beg
20:48:43 <Wallet> t​hecure: How many​ chars in ACC
20:48:46 <thecure> 3
20:48:46 <Wallet> thecure: @bonuspot tipped 0.0000005 XMR to thecure [777a05cb] Wait ≈23 hrs 53 min before trying again. @bonuspot: 0.01357887
20:51:20 <Trick14> .beg
20:51:22 <Wallet> T​rick14: How ​many letters in white
20:51:26 <Trick14> 5
20:51:26 <Wallet> Trick14: @bonuspot tipped 0.0000008 XMR to Trick14 [5269098b] Wait ≈23 hrs 54 min before trying again. @bonuspot: 0.01357807
22:41:57 <endogenic> ah, now i'm in #monero
22:41:58 <endogenic> oops
22:42:02 <endogenic> wonder if i missed anythin
22:42:10 <selsta> not much
23:02:16 <Pny> .faucet
23:02:17 <Wallet> Pny: OOPS! 30 min penalty. 13 hours to go.
23:02:47 <cmc> .faucet
23:02:48 <Wallet> cmc: Your default coin is now set to XMR. Change with coins command.
23:02:48 <Wallet> ​cmc: 1/4 ​of 20
23:02:59 <Wallet> cmc: Oops that is not correct. Try again later. (No not immediately or I'll just ignore you..)
23:16:15 <Mochi101> Is this for real? https://cointelegraph.com/news/monero-s-former-maintainer-arrested-in-u-s-for-allegations-unrelated-to-cryptocurrency
23:20:14 <selsta> yes
23:20:26 <Mochi101> man... rip
23:22:16 <dieth> is there any timeline for a 17.3 release which includes ( https://github.com/monero-project/monero/pull/7341 ) ?
23:23:50 <selsta> no timeline but it will be out soon
23:23:56 <selsta> if I had to guess 1 week
23:24:18 <dieth> thanks 
23:24:54 <apotheon> Mochi101: welcome back
23:25:11 <Mochi101> thanks
23:25:17 <apotheon> welcome
23:25:22 <Mochi101> not really away... my spirit is always here
23:25:26 <apotheon> I was going to say something to you, but now I forgot what it was.
23:25:34 <apotheon> Maybe I was just going to say . . .
23:25:35 <apotheon> .faucet
23:25:36 <Wallet> ap​otheon: How many were Three Little P​igs
23:25:39 <apotheon> 3
23:25:40 <Wallet> apotheon: @bonuspot tipped 0.00001 XMR to apotheon [a6b1ae18] Wait ≈23 hrs 57 min before trying again. @bonuspot: 0.01356807
23:25:46 <Mochi101> .faucet
23:25:48 <Wallet> Mo​chi101: How many lette​rs in stove
23:25:51 <apotheon> No, that wasn't it.
23:25:51 <Mochi101> 5
23:25:51 <Wallet> Mochi101: @bonuspot tipped 0.0000006 XMR to Mochi101 [b4a3adc0] Wait ≈23 hrs 59 min before trying again. @bonuspot: 0.01356747
23:28:37 <apotheon> Mochi101: Oh, I remember now (because I'm looking at backscroll).  Here's context . . .
23:28:42 <apotheon> 01:39 < apotheon> Please mine Monero, solo or as part of a small pool, for the good of the network.
23:28:45 <apotheon> 01:39 < apotheon> Please do it safely, though.
23:28:47 <apotheon> 02:57 < Mochi101> apotheon, safely how?
23:29:13 <apotheon> safely, like with care for privacy and secure wallet and so on when setting up for mining
23:30:42 <apotheon> Mochi101: Do you have thoughts about that?
23:31:17 <Mochi101> ahhh
23:31:22 <Mochi101> yes, very good advice
23:32:18 <orangeboxcutter> where do you keep your seed
23:32:37 <orangeboxcutter> for research
23:33:47 <apotheon> As for that news about fluffypony . . . I'm surprised.
23:34:54 <apotheon> orangeboxcutter: in a vintage coffee tin, modified to have a false bottom, which I buried in the fenced-in back yard with a 50% wolf/rottweiler mix
23:35:12 <apotheon> The wolf/rottweiler isn't buried.  It's just in the back yard, alive and well.
23:35:49 <apotheon> .val 0.00001 xmr
23:35:49 <Wallet> apotheon: ≈$0.0023 • ≈ value of: 0.00001 XMR • Source: cmc/ccc/altm
23:37:02 <apotheon> Mochi101: How much should I pay you to get you to create a maximally privacy-protected, simple-to-use deployment script for Monero full node on OpenBSD that connects via I2P?
23:37:34 <apotheon> Mochi101: I'm pretty sure you don't use OpenBSD generally, but you could try something new.