02:40:57 <tusko> Taliban, Taliban
12:47:21 <yanmaani> Does the curve Monero uses support something like non-hardened key derivation?
12:47:48 <yanmaani> e.g. given a public key K, derive another public key K', but without being able to derive K from K'
13:28:27 <fluffypony> yanmaani: probably better suited to #monero-research-lab
14:16:06 <gingeropolous> "Thank you for informing us. Please be aware that the reported domain name has been suspended." AWESOME! wow, filing abuse complaints actually work. asicway.com dead
14:16:51 <gingeropolous> looks like they bagged about half a million $ or more though
14:29:23 <yanmaani> asicway who?
14:29:52 <gingeropolous> asicway.com . scam site that was up since around July claiming to have a monero asic. only took crypto for payments. would take ppls money and never deliver
14:32:11 <yanmaani> seems kinda sympathetic tbh
14:32:13 <yanmaani> aren't asics bad
14:32:30 <gingeropolous> wat?
14:55:35 <louipc> asics dont work on randomx
14:55:54 <louipc> or rather there's no asic for randomx. it was a scam
14:56:06 <yanmaani> right, so what's the problem
14:56:12 <yanmaani> don't try to buy asics :^)
14:57:12 <louipc> ppl were dumb and believed it
14:58:21 <louipc> scam + dumb + desperate = rekt
15:23:50 <gingeropolous> yeah unfortunately yanmaani not everyone is as knowledgeable as they should be. they shouldn't be scammed out of money because of a lack of knowledge. and they were selling bitcoin asics too. 
16:36:11 <yanmaani> yeah but I mean a monero ASIC is not really the most sympathetic thing in the world
16:36:12 <yanmaani> ah whatever
17:57:40 <leonardus> If I want to pay someone in XMR for a service, what's the simplest way for them to accept the payment and receive it in their local currency assuming they know nothing about Monero and just want to receive the money?
18:04:04 <merope> You need some third-party payment processor that takes crypto
18:04:56 <merope> (And transparently converts it to fiat for the receiver)
18:09:45 <nioc> I believe Globee does that
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