01:37:44 <hyc> there's nothing architecture-dependent in the code
01:38:00 <hyc> you should be able to build it with no trouble on M1
03:25:08 <apotheon> Mochi101: welcome back
03:37:14 <Mochi101> THANKS
03:37:18 <Mochi101> oops
03:37:49 <Mochi101> It's been a rough week... maybe tomorrow it'll be back to normal.
04:47:54 <apotheon> sad, re: rough week
14:47:16 <Aut0Exec> hi guys
14:47:48 <Aut0Exec> I a bit late to the party but I was interested in mining monero... any tips
14:48:08 <Aut0Exec> my goal is to get rich from this
14:50:48 <sech1> Get rich? You'll make more money collecting bottles than mining Monero :D
14:51:35 <Aut0Exec> but what about when the coin value starts to soar?
14:51:46 <Aut0Exec> right now its pennies but... in 10 years
14:52:13 <sech1> Then just buy $100 worth of XMR and you'll save yourself a year of mining
14:52:30 <sech1> Or if you really want to mine XMR the most efficient way, use MoneroOcean pool
14:52:48 <Aut0Exec> k
14:52:53 <sech1> you'll mine most profitable coins and pool will auto-convert to XMR for you
14:53:06 <Aut0Exec> just by using that pool?
14:53:12 <sech1> yes, they pay out in XMR
14:53:28 <Aut0Exec> oh nice
14:54:12 <Aut0Exec> most people here just buy or mine?
14:54:17 <Aut0Exec> its like 258 usd now
14:54:40 <Aut0Exec> $234
14:54:42 <Aut0Exec> sorry
14:55:07 <Aut0Exec> lol $236.93
14:55:14 <Aut0Exec> need more coffeee
14:55:30 <sech1> I mine, mostly to heat up my apartment right now :D
14:55:45 <Aut0Exec> hehe
14:56:08 <Aut0Exec> that is.... killing 2 birds with one coin 
14:56:10 <Aut0Exec> :)
14:56:22 <Aut0Exec> makes sense
14:57:17 <Aut0Exec> what are the overall predictions in terms of coin value in 10 years?
14:58:37 <Aut0Exec> only reason I want to mine is because I cant buy with a credit card by the way 
14:58:38 <Aut0Exec> I'm not in the great US of A
14:58:38 <Aut0Exec> :)
14:58:38 <sech1> If I knew how to predict 10 years into the future I'd be rich already :P
15:00:01 <Aut0Exec> lol
15:03:19 <Aut0Exec> perhaps you should be investing in time travel then my friend :)
16:22:56 <apotheon> Aut0Exec: My impression is that Monero is not the most profitable cryptocurrency to mine, but mining it is good for the Monero network, so go ahead and mine it if you like.  Some people set up a mining rig with a good CPU for Monero to contribute to the network, and with a good GPU in the same machine for something else (e.g. Ethereum or Ergo) to get profits.
16:23:51 <apotheon> Aut0Exec: If you can get cryptocurrencies other than Monero, you can convert them into Monero by finding someone willing to trade for them.
16:25:10 <apotheon> Aut0Exec: It may be harder with some currencies than others, of course.  I haven't looked into it, but I guess a worst-case scenario might be that you'd have to find an exchange somewhere that will let you convert from whatever you've mined into a stablecoin, then from that to either Monero or something you'd like to trade for Monero.
16:25:56 <apotheon> Aut0Exec: Be aware of whether you're exposing your identity somewhere and creating taxable events in your jurisdiction when trading between cryptocurrencies, though.
16:35:01 <Aut0Exec> apotheon: yeah to be honest... I'm turned off entirely by exchanges now 
16:35:07 <Aut0Exec> thanks for that info though 
16:35:21 <Aut0Exec> Not sure what I will do but I am looking to invest 
16:35:34 <Aut0Exec> not just Monero but a portfolio of sorts
16:46:51 <apotheon> There may be some "defi" options for trading that I don't know.  I haven't really looked into the defi options for currency exchange.
16:47:43 <apotheon> Aut0Exec: I'd recommend you think of Monero as more of a cash substitute rather than some kind of NYSE stock substitute, though.
16:49:07 <apotheon> Maybe Monero would make for good savings and checking account material, while something more "mainstream" among cryptocurrencies might be the investment material, which you can "cash out" as Monero if you want to realize your gains.
16:49:43 <apotheon> . . . unless you just intend to cash out as a fiat currency, in which case Monero's just likely to annoy the tax collector.
16:50:26 <apotheon> Governments, in general, probably won't appreciate you using Monero very much.  I appreciate people annoying tax collectors, though.