02:04:37 what is the approximate transaction cost (USD) to send monero? 02:11:13 saunders: depends on the size of the tx, and by size I mean the number of inputs needed not the amount of monero 02:11:19 for an average tx of 2 inputs it is around 1/4 of a cent 02:11:26 '/wb 02:11:35 feh 02:13:17 okay 02:14:15 Aside from using an exchange, how would I convert monero to bitcoin? 02:16:18 by far the easiest way would be an instant exchange such as changenow or fixedfloat 02:17:10 recently, atomic swaps have also been developed, but this requires some knowledge and care, at least for now 02:20:03 I'm trying to buy bitcoin with cash from a friend but it seems a hassle. I'm think if he sends me monero I'll be able to convert that to bitcoin while maintaining some degree of privacy. does that seem reasonable? 02:22:10 yes, you will pay some sort of fee for the monero->bitcoin exchange though 02:26:37 of course. he's using binance. 02:27:52 but for cash to bitcoin he's saying it's remarkly expensive per transaction. not sure that using monero solves that. perhaps it just pushes the transactions costs around? 02:30:48 sending bitcoin is more expensive than sending monero, yes. currently about 10 cents, i think 02:31:31 however, if bitcoin is what you want in the end, you will end up paying that fee anyway, plus some conversion fee on top 02:32:08 on the other hand you do gain some privacy in that the bitcoin wouldn't be associated with your friend and/or his binance account 02:32:56 exchanges charge much more than 10 cents to withdraw btc 02:34:12 good point 02:34:14 not familiar with the charges but an exchange with low fees is $2.50 02:34:26 kraken charges .0002 BTC which is like $1.00 02:34:38 .00002 BTC, sorry 02:35:00 not bad 02:38:02 .0001 XMR is still better :) 03:14:45 how does one submit an idea for the monero art fund? 04:41:28 does anybody recall the story of monero's "intentionally" crippled mining release. Did somebdoy actually look at the code and determine if it was intentional or not? 04:41:35 well, I'm curious now. he's talking about a $30 Canadian transaction cost for getting bitcoin. I'll see what he offers for monero. 04:48:38 I'm just starting with the cli for the wallet: https://pastebin.com/ePzrTAdC how do I test connectivity? 04:51:28 when I type "status" it returns that "no daemon is connected" 04:58:47 your paste doesn't work, but in general, to use the CLI wallet you need to either a) also run the daemon, monerod, locally or b) choose a remote node and explicitly connect to that (e.g. monero-wallet-cli --daemon-address someone.somewhere.com:18089) 05:02:46 ohhh. okay, is there a list a of remote nodes to which I can connect? 05:06:31 I started the daemon in another console. 05:11:53 running your own daemon is best practice, but it will take some time to sync for the first time. also, needs lots of SSD space. 05:17:15 as for public nodes, AFAIK there isn't an official list, a web and/or reddit search turns up quite a few though. if it were me, i'd probably try node.minexmr.com first, but i've never used anyone else's node myself 05:20:38 https://moneroworld.com/ has a list domain names that will point to nodes 06:48:21 DeanGuss: I was there 06:48:28 and I developed the better miner 06:49:09 It... the code was really, really stupid, but it's hard to say whether or not this proved malice. Now that I've got 7+ years more experience doing miner dev... 06:49:44 Wolf0: So was that copied from bytecoin? Or put in (what was then bitMonero?) Is bitmonero a hardfork of bytecoin? 06:50:05 No, bitmonero was (is) a fork. 06:51:06 The thing is... if it was the same dev who did the main cryptonote code that also did the PoW algo implementation, I'm leaning towards malice - someone with that level of skill should know better. But this is purely speculation 06:51:22 The algo was copied from ByteCoin, yes 06:52:19 bitmonero is a code fork or blockchain fork? 06:52:22 Aside from doing the CPU miner, I also did a GPU miner, now that I'm looking back: https://forum.getmonero.org/7/open-tasks/2400/open-source-amd-miner-by-wolf0 06:52:26 DeanGuss: code fork 06:53:15 Ah yes so, because bitmonero started from the bytecoin code, it's miner was crippled too 07:10:54 DeanGuss: correct. 07:38:03 i have a question about seed just to see if i got it correctly: when i have my monero seed (or same probably for bitcoin), i can restore my wallet and all its data even if i don't have the private keys or anything else anymore? 07:50:47 lunario: yes, because the seed is the private key 07:50:56 just a different representation of it. 07:52:04 alright, thanks 09:02:20 lunario: you can access your funds with the seed but some data will be lost, like the receiver address of transactions 14:19:38 Some screenshots of how Haveno will look like: https://twitter.com/HavenoDEX/status/1475431311191982081 14:22:28 Looks nice, but dark theme is a must 14:36:03 Yeah our designer is working on that as well, but i don't know if we will implement it directly at launch or a bit after. 14:46:39 Nice. What's more important is Haveno actually launching and working flawlessly. Good design will be just the cherry on top. 15:00:03 The priority is to make it simple and flawless as possible. We have to deal with some of the limitations of Monero that definitely impact UX, like the 10 blocks lock, but we are working on it. 15:27:50 When you first run monerod how does it get peers? 15:58:23 selsta: from a recent discussion, I tested a few txs and my non AES cpu takes ~20 seconds to construct a tx with 1 input while a modern CPU is very fast and even a 40 input tx takes 3-4 seconds 15:59:05 nioc: ok that makes more sense 15:59:07 the daemon on the non AES cpu had been running for 2 hrs 16:00:23 that's why I thought is was normal :) 16:00:32 *it was 16:01:23 mooo has a PR to cut down tx generation speed even more :D 16:50:04 rather than run the daemon myself, can I not just connect to some server? 16:50:55 I'm using the cli wallet and the daemon is only at three percent. I don't think my hard drive will have enough space to store everything. 16:53:56 or there's an rpc option? 17:03:05 and, how do I determine what my secret view key is? 17:31:52 saunders: you can use a remote node 17:32:03 too late 17:43:47 scara: There's a list of seed peers embedded in the code 17:43:55 A new node uses those to bootstrap to the network 18:34:32 how do I create a RPC wallet? 18:35:10 there's no difference between an RPC wallet and a regular wallet 18:35:40 you can create a wallet using CLI, GUI or RPC and access the same wallet using any of the three also 18:36:35 okay. How do I use the wallet with a remote daemon? And, which daemon? 18:37:14 simply start the wallet with the parameter --daemon-address : 18:39:08 is there a directory for daemon addresses? 18:39:17 it's better that you run your own 18:39:33 but you can use node.supportxmr.com:18081 if you don't have your own 18:39:46 the daemon is at three percent. how much free space do I need? 18:40:03 130 GB for full node 18:40:22 oof. I'll try that node you suggested. thx. 18:40:35 if you enable pruning it should be more like 50GB 18:41:03 how do I enable pruning? 18:41:32 run the daemon with the --prune-blockchain option 18:42:02 Just have to run it the first time with that option, it'll stay pruned even without it after. 18:42:24 either way, you want it to be on a SSD not HDD, otherwise it will be quite slow 18:45:40 thx 18:57:12 for using the remote blockchain does the height need to get refreshed from scrath each time or does that persist? 18:59:52 no, your wallet remembers the height it scanned up to 19:21:06 sech1: thx 23:23:50 for this amount: Balance: 0.000100000000 how "much" is that? it's just a test transaction for │ 23:23:54 │apparently the smallest amount which could be sent from binance. 23:24:07 is that about twenty five cents USD? 23:45:34 two and a half cents, i think