00:00:46 <nioc> I have it easy, names are color coded
00:01:06 <apotheon> nioc: I guess the second message (about the finish) was for you, too, now that I think about it.
00:04:39 <nioc> in other news seems that we are rebranding so you might want to wait with the stickers 
00:05:15 <nioc> https://www.dxpool.com/help/en/xmr-mining-tutorial  What is XMR?  Monroe, referred to as XMR, is an open source cryptocurrency created in April 2014....
00:10:54 <apotheon> https://paste.apotheon.net/pastes/unstuck_sr375.jpg
00:10:59 <apotheon> Monroe . . . ?
00:11:26 <apotheon> might wanna fix that
00:13:49 <louipc> who marilyn?
00:47:32 <apotheon> I didn't expect someone in the Monero channel to tell me I shouldn't add a Monero sticker to the bass.
03:41:49 <Steven_M> Hi all :)
03:51:24 <Steven_M> I have a suggestion for the devs: Please consider adding a console window to the GUI, so that the functions of monero-wallet-gui and monero-wallet-cli could be combined into a single program, for those who want the best of both worlds.
04:00:47 <Steven_M> What do you all think?
04:10:11 <louipc> yes good idea
04:11:50 <Steven_M> louipc: Thanks. Are you a dev?
04:13:32 <louipc> nah
04:22:04 <gingeropolous> hrmmm https://github.com/uglide/QtConsole
04:26:48 <Steven_M> louipc: lets hope the devs agree with us then. :)
05:06:01 <pingpongball> Hello bitcoiners
05:06:16 <pingpongball> ok moneroers
05:12:30 <pingpongball> fluffypony c++ vs rust , have you tried rust?
05:12:50 <pingpongball> fluffypony you was gone on jain, why?
05:12:56 <pingpongball> *jail
05:16:55 <pingpongball> fluffypony how does all your knowledge comes from , while coding c++?
05:34:39 <nioc> pigeons: what is your favorite color?
05:34:46 <nioc> whoops sorry
05:34:58 <nioc> he left
13:59:30 <fluffypony> lol
14:37:01 <selsta> fluffypony: ugh not "journalists" now claiming that they traced XMR to find Morgan and Lichtenstein
14:37:34 <fluffypony> I mean, in his article he alludes to other ways they could have done it
14:37:39 <fluffypony> but then he drops this inflammatory Tweet
14:37:50 <fluffypony> it's BuzzFeed-level garbage
14:38:13 <selsta> and it's the same person who also wrote the other wired monero articles
14:38:34 <selsta> though maybe that's their only crypto journalist
14:41:09 <fluffypony> I didn't even mention on that thread that VCE 4 was cooperating with law enforcement, and could just have said "oh, here are all the accounts that IP address x.x.x.x ever logged into or created"
14:41:20 <fluffypony> it's so dumb to go for the boogeyman argument
14:42:01 <fluffypony> WHAT IF XMR IS TRACEABLE!!!!111 is the same as saying WHAT IF THE NSA CAN DECRYPT ALL SSL TRAFFIC WITH QUANTUM COMPUTERS!!111
14:42:19 <fluffypony> sure, it's possible that's how they were caught, but it's equally possible that the NSA weren't even involved 😆
14:44:57 <selsta> if they had all the exchange details saved in the cloud
14:45:13 <selsta> login details*
14:45:32 <selsta> they will probably request all trading data from all exchanges and then map it out
14:46:49 <selsta> that's how I thought the 13200 XMR deposit graphic got created as the source for the XMR are unknown
14:47:17 <fluffypony> https://twitter.com/gingeropolous1/status/1491785562864304132
14:47:33 <fluffypony> lol _gingeropolous is a better journalist
14:47:36 <selsta> yea
14:47:50 <_gingeropolous> pls hire me at wired
14:47:57 <_gingeropolous> i r can read
14:48:41 <_gingeropolous> of course i can't get my irc name right
14:49:13 <gingeropolous> there we go
14:52:58 <selsta> https://twitter.com/a_greenberg/status/1491553075861114888
14:53:19 <selsta> is it just me or is that arrow not red?
14:54:37 <selsta> he keeps writing red arrow :D
15:01:36 <sech1> the arrow is not read
15:01:39 <sech1> *red
15:01:42 <sech1> and the cake is a lie
15:14:16 <nioc> if they want to trace monero they should get FB to accept it
16:30:52 <yanmaani> Anyone have a good phone number rental service that takes Monero?
16:31:58 <gingeropolous> i tried 2 of the ones recommended here by folks a while ago, and both failed. 
16:32:28 <gingeropolous> i think i was trying to get a telegram account
16:35:00 <yanmaani> yeah they all have big minimum deposits
16:40:57 <gingeropolous> it wasn't even that. I deposited monero and got numbers, but texts never came through to the numbers
16:41:06 <gingeropolous> so they got my monero and thats it
16:49:32 <yanmaani> lol
16:49:37 <yanmaani> guess that works too
20:00:06 <gingeropolous> this wired guy is really stickin to this narrative
20:09:03 <selsta> gingeropolous: a line must mean they traced it!
20:43:22 <sech1> gingeropolous so this guy is ... hard-wired (ba-dum-tss)
21:31:18 <hyc> https://twitter.com/hyc_symas/status/1491886280921296901
21:31:32 <hyc> the spreadsheet contained their monero account info. no tracing was done.
21:41:33 <selsta> let's see if Greenberg will acknowledge that :D
21:57:51 <hyc> that also explains why they don't have another VCE between the BTC account and the VCE4 XMR accounts. they have no knowledge of when/how the BTC was exchanged to XMR.
22:29:53 <hyc> let's see if Alex Gladstein / HRF will still claim BTC is the best thing for dissident to use :P
23:23:36 <alMalsam1> selsta: What is this XMR tracing involving "Morgan" and "Lichtenstein" I never heard of this do you have a link?
23:25:01 <selsta> https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/two-arrested-alleged-conspiracy-launder-45-billion-stolen-cryptocurrency
23:25:44 <selsta> there was no XMR tracing involved
23:44:58 <alMalsam1> Why is their last name same as the European microstate that is weird
23:47:14 <alMalsam1> Hmm doesn't have much info about how they got caught in the article... but it sounds like they were using bank account which is pretty stupid, I would just convert crypto to cash