03:29:37 oioi 12:33:59 what kind of services do you want in monero but do not have enough of? 12:42:12 Atomic swaps. 12:45:09 need a hard fork to make it easy. we need scriptless script. or DLSAG. but both need hard fork 12:47:20 How about a forkless fork ? 12:48:21 About the kind of services, anything selling stuff online. 12:49:05 Even if you have to get them your shipping address, it still cuts bank and card issuer out of the privacy invasion business. 12:57:06 moneromooo, I used to have a monero only shop. I shut it down because it was on shopify and it was costing me more than the sales on it. If I do it again I will do self-hosting because that is cheaper. 13:35:00 a produce wholesaler that can pay the producers in coin and targeting areas with large migrant worker populations 13:36:20 a little research on the subject shows they net a predictable 20%. all that is needed is for someone that sees the connection between paying farmers, workers getting paid in coin, and direct remittance 16:58:25 o/ I'm trying to use "make_integrated_address" function without payment_id. But error returns: "message": "Payment ID shouldn't be left unspecified" . On the monero website it says optional input for it. (payment_id - string; (Optional, defaults to a random ID) 16 characters hex encoded.) 17:19:39 It is indeed optional. Something broke I guess. 17:20:16 Or that message looks like RPC. Maybe RPC never worked this way. I'll check. 17:22:18 Yes, pointless test after generating one. 17:24:23 Look for a patch on github in 10 minutes, after I checked this compiles. 17:25:12 moneromooo, i have second question. How can the receiver check payments with specific payment_id ? 17:31:51 Ask a more precise question. 17:32:41 I think you're asking "how can I check whether I received a payment with a given payment id", is that correct ? 17:33:22 If so, you can call get_bulk_payments with that payment id and the height at which you last checked. 17:33:44 Or 0 if you want to check overall rather than incrementally. 17:35:47 Yes, that is what i look for. Thanks you. 17:40:13 Is this normal? I've used a primary address on another account_index for "make_integrated_address" and it returned with error= "message": "Subaddress shouldn't be used" . Can we say subaddress for another accounts primary address? 17:41:34 By primary address, do you mean standard address (ie, the first one in a wallet, starting with 4 (for mainnet)) ? 17:43:07 If so, the code looks ok. You probably used a subaddress. 17:44:10 I'm not have info about mainned. Working on stagenet. 75uwuVEhS2AP3..... (account_index = 1, address_indices = 0) not worked. 521abbBYdGfPTJ18jLgnk4fjc... (account_index = 0, address_indices = 0) worked 17:47:45 The payment id patch's up, 8213. 17:50:53 if i cant use another accounts on same wallet for "make_integrated_address" it seems useless for me. I need to find subwallet logic 17:52:45 Yes, subaddresses are prefered to integrated addresses. 20:00:41 what is the best way to buy xmr for btc? 20:09:04 I'm gonna try atomic swaps https://github.com/comit-network/xmr-btc-swap (but I wouldn't say it's the best way, read the issues) 20:09:17 I haven't tried it yet, so. 20:11:03 jjakob: I don't belive it's maintained, which would explain that 20:12:25 right. 20:14:05 I was going to give fixedfloat a try, but i found a reddit thread saying they accept xmr for other coins but don't let you get xmr, and recommend siteshift which I have never heard of. https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/nglwwn/fixedfloat_xmr/ 20:15:35 Not atomic, of course 20:16:22 Farcaster is still on testnet though, so COMIT is THE option there and should be reliable enough 23:19:38 on CMIT it seems to be easier to buy btc with xmr than to buy xmr with btc :D 23:19:44 *COMIT