00:03:30 <apotheon> upp: I definitely prefer Monerujo over Cake.
00:03:47 <apotheon> I've used Cake for something other than Monero, and it has been mostly great for that use.
00:03:55 <Mochi101> Why's that apotheon ?
00:04:12 <apotheon> Why's what?  Why do I prefer Monerujo?
00:04:28 <Mochi101> yes, over Cake
00:05:18 <apotheon> The way Monerujo shows transactions and allows overt, explicit management of addresses is *really* nice.  I hear Cake is supposed to do at least some of that, but it seems to be broken on Android if so.
00:05:50 <apotheon> I do like Cake's license more, though.
00:06:20 <apotheon> Cake offers the option of a six-digit PIN, which both has ups and downs.
00:06:27 <apotheon> s/both has/has both/
00:07:05 <apotheon> Mochi101: What's up with the rainbow of fruit flavors?
00:16:23 <Mochi101> I ate some Skittles
00:37:01 <apotheon> I see.
00:37:09 <apotheon> I prefer Reese's Pieces these days.
00:37:36 <Mochi101> ooooh
00:37:45 <Mochi101> Or Reece's Peanut Butter Cups
00:37:51 <Mochi101> Love these too.
00:38:16 <Mochi101> I was able to get some Reece's Pieces a few weeks ago. Usually they're not available in Mexico.
00:39:04 <Mochi101> But there's a gringo stuff store that I didn't know about. Way over priced but I was even able to get a bag of dill pickle flavored potato chips.
00:39:28 <Mochi101> I was amazed, it had been at least 15 years since I had a bag of them.
00:47:37 <apotheon> I like the peanut butter cups with a peanut buttery shell.
06:40:26 <s1car1us> Hello, I am trying to restore a wallet on Android... I have a 14 word seed, but it only had an option for a 25 word seed. Can anyone help?
06:44:56 <sech1> that's probably a seed from Feather wallet. Install it and try to restore there
15:02:31 <s1car1us> sech1: it is a feather wallet but I am trying to install a wallet on my Android phone.  Afaik there is no feather for Android
15:12:02 <ocb> s1car1us: what android wallet are you trying to recover with?
15:12:56 <s1car1us> Exodus, but it only accepts 24 word seed
15:13:30 <moneromooo> IIRC you can ask feather to give you a full seed.
15:13:53 <moneromooo> Otherwise you'll have to use the raw secret keys.
15:14:38 <s1car1us> How do I "ask feather"
15:14:51 <moneromooo> Politely ? :D
15:14:59 <moneromooo> Dunno. You're using it.
15:15:06 <moneromooo> Check the docs ? The menus ?
15:15:59 <ocb> you should be able to convert 14 words to secret key, but do it offline. or maybe if monerujo supports 14 words, recover it with that and transfer the funds to exodus if that suits your backup methodology.
15:16:37 <s1car1us> I actually tried Monerujo first
15:17:21 <s1car1us> Correction, 25 word seeds
15:17:55 <ocb> can you recover to exodus from a secret key?
15:17:59 <s1car1us> And Exodus asks for 12 words
15:18:59 <s1car1us> Yes, but the reason I'm even asking and not just using the private key is because I don't have a laptop or computer at all right now for a couple days
15:19:25 <s1car1us> So can't get to feather wallet to grab my keys
15:19:34 <s1car1us> I only have my seed
15:20:19 <ocb> what about cake wallet, they support 25 word seeds, if i understood correctly from final recheck you have a 25 word.
15:21:55 <s1car1us> No I have 14 word, I was correcting because I said they only take 24 word but meant 25, sorry for confusion
15:22:20 <ocb> aham.. hmm
15:22:50 <s1car1us> It's all good. I can wait a couple days if I have to... I'm just not very patient
15:23:03 <moneromooo> For the record, 24 and 25 are the same, the last word is an optional sanity check.
15:23:15 <s1car1us> Good to know
15:23:43 <ocb> stay safe and don't lose your monero in parachute accident :)
15:24:13 <s1car1us>  Tobtoht just let me know... 8:20 AM <tobtoht> <- Go to Wallet -> Seed -> Show 25 word seed. You should be able to use this seed in Exodus.
18:49:15 <upp> i was looking at exodus wallet for a minute while researching what wallets people are using nowadays... i saw that they advertise it as being "mostly" open source... the screenshots look nice and the feature list looks nice but mostly open source != open source... thats a deal breaker for me
19:04:11 <moneromooo> I guess they are mostly honest then.
19:51:20 <NakedKing> Whats is exact difference with Sweep_all and Sweep_single functions?   I splitted %90 of total amount and i want to send what has been left on the wallet. Which is suitable for me?
19:54:42 <moneromooo> The former uses all unspent outs, the latter uses just one.
19:55:06 <moneromooo> They're the same if you have just one output in your wallet.
19:56:49 <NakedKing> I have come to end of splitting algoritm after 5 days. Lost some of my hairs.. 
19:58:48 <joerg1> Hello, I want learn to help the Monero Team. I need some adivice
20:03:15 <moneromooo> Do you actually have a question ?
20:06:42 <joerg1> How do I learn to code for the Monero Preject? What literature should I read?
20:07:46 <moneromooo> You can lookup "Zero to monero" (technical) and "Mastering monero" (less so AIUI).
20:08:04 <moneromooo> Other than that, reading the code.
20:10:51 <joerg1> Thank you. I found the two books. I'll get down to it and read the first book.
21:10:02 <NakedKing> sweep_all sends all xmr on account regardless of given subaddr_indices.  So what is the purpose of subaddr_indices parametres here?
22:47:07 <JoBbZ_> I created my monero account many years ago.  I'm unable to use it with the monero app because the monero app won't let me use my passphrase with it.  It only lets me create new accounts which is not what I want to do.  The app from mymonero works with my old account just fine.  Is there some way to import my old account into the official monero app?
22:47:43 <JoBbZ> Also the Monero app hangs on exit ... "closing wallet" for 20+ minutes
23:10:44 <selsta> JoBbZ: you have to close is with the task manager
23:11:29 <selsta> also can you rephrase your question? what exactly does "won't let me use my passphrase" mean?
23:27:30 <JoBbZ> selsta: it wants a 25 word pass phrase
23:27:35 <JoBbZ> when I created mine, they weren't that long
23:27:55 <JoBbZ> they were only 13
23:28:00 <JoBbZ> it won't accept that as an input
23:28:14 <selsta> yes, you have to import your wallet with private spend key and private view key
23:28:17 <JoBbZ> I have no option once in the app to add an existing account to my wallet, either
23:28:31 <JoBbZ> just to create a new one
23:33:14 <JoBbZ> There are no such things listed with the mymonero app
23:33:18 <JoBbZ> so how do I get them?
23:33:23 <JoBbZ> (private spend & view keys)
23:36:06 <selsta> I don't know but click around in the app
23:36:16 <JoBbZ> I did...
23:36:25 <selsta> you should find address, private view key and private spend key
23:39:26 <JoBbZ> there's address, receive, send.  No private view key or private spend key.  An option to export past transactions to CSV.
23:39:30 <JoBbZ> nothing under settings for those either
23:41:56 <selsta> JoBbZ: do you see this triangle next to your address?
23:42:21 <selsta> click on the triangle and it should show address, secret view key, secret spend key, mnemonic seed
23:42:32 <JoBbZ> ty!
23:42:35 <JoBbZ> how obscure..
23:43:06 <selsta> now open monero-wallet-gui and restore a wallet from keys
23:44:38 <JoBbZ> ty, appears to be importing now :)