03:12:21 <DeanGuss> ndorf: I thought light clients in monero were lighter than that (needing all blocks)
03:15:52 <endogenic> clients dont get the blocks.. only the server does
03:17:25 <DeanGuss> So how does the client hide which transactions he's after?
03:17:59 <DeanGuss> Or it just doesn't matter that the server knows since monero is more or less anonymous
03:22:32 <DeanGuss> correlating ips to transactions though seems like ewww though so was something done to obfuscate that?  I feel like supposedly there was when remote nodes came out, maybe I'm mistaken
03:23:05 <endogenic> the server is a scanner that gets the viewkeys and scans on behalf of the user
03:23:22 <endogenic> so the idea is theyre trusted
03:23:29 <endogenic> and in return offer various benefits
03:24:19 <endogenic> not the same meaning as light wallet in bitcoin
03:25:06 <DeanGuss> Ah ok.  So mobile wallets even in monero give up basically everything
03:25:29 <endogenic> no no
03:25:42 <endogenic> you can run your own light wallet server
03:26:01 <endogenic> or wait and stream and scan blocks which does suck in terms of experience a lot more
03:28:38 <DeanGuss> right, but actually I had trouble having monerujo connect to my onion, not sure if that's specific to monerujo but I was thinking, jeez as an alternative if I use one of their nodes I would dox my wallet addresses
03:28:56 <selsta> DeanGuss: monerujo isn't a light client
03:29:40 <selsta> though I didn't see what you wrote earlier
03:30:17 <selsta> monerujo gets all the blocks client side from a remote node
03:30:52 <selsta> using a remote node won't give up your wallet address but they can weaken your privacy in other ways
03:31:25 <DeanGuss> na not my "address" but you know, like my utxos
03:32:06 <DeanGuss> transactions associate with my wallet
03:32:30 <DeanGuss> s/associate/associated/
03:33:11 <selsta> if you send a transaction they can link your txid with the IP address
03:34:54 <DeanGuss> wow so does monerujo get rid of the blocks it doesn't need then?
03:35:05 <DeanGuss> That seems like it could take a lot of storage
03:35:20 <selsta> it gets rid of the block after scanning it
03:35:41 <DeanGuss> ah cool.  lot of mobile bandwidth tho!
03:38:03 <selsta> yes, alternatively a light wallet would help in that case
03:38:08 <selsta> mymonero / monero-lws / ...
03:39:15 <DeanGuss> Ah interesting.  Any idea if those allow you to plug in your own remote node for the lightwalleting?
03:41:20 <endogenic> yep with monero-lws you would be able to do that
03:42:29 <DeanGuss> sweet thanks yall
04:29:06 <itzmikesadc> monero
23:02:44 <garth> Sorry I asked this earlier but missed the response: what are the consensus changes in the upcoming hardfork? Just ring size 16?
23:03:34 <selsta> Bulletproofs+
23:13:22 <selsta> also fee changes
23:14:01 <merope> And view tags
23:15:38 <Mochi103> Monero gets more awesome.
23:21:46 <garth> Perfect thanks
23:22:12 <garth> Is view tags a consensus breaking rule?
23:23:13 <nioc> yes continuous more awesome 
23:23:49 <nioc> view tags is wallet related so I assume not consensus 
23:24:18 <merope> Yes it changes consensus, it adds one byte to the standard transaction format
23:24:29 <nioc> ah
23:25:28 <nioc> I find the best way to get a correct answer is to answer with ignorance 
23:26:44 <nioc> also I missed your original answer merope 
23:27:24 <nioc> thx
23:27:32 <merope> ?
23:27:53 <nioc> <merope> And view tags
23:28:46 <nioc> Mochi103: whish I also gets more awesome :(
23:52:30 <littlebobeep> Wjat are view tags?
23:52:47 <littlebobeep> 1 byte is not much data
23:53:21 <selsta> it speeds up wallet sync
23:56:29 <littlebobeep> selsta: how?  
23:57:27 <selsta> littlebobeep: https://github.com/monero-project/research-lab/issues/73