00:47:54 Oh ok, but still plugins... hmmm 00:48:08 Actually you gave me an idea 00:48:47 In profanity you can use the command /editor to edit your message in vim or whatever editor 00:49:18 And then when you exit the contents are there to be sent 00:51:20 Neomutt also does that natively, and it makes more sense in its case as an email is typically multiple lines 00:52:08 Now that I think about it, it might be possible to create such a thing for weechat too, although it is not going to be that pretty 01:21:09 Regular Mutt uses Vim in common default confgs, too. 01:22:54 I use vi-like keybindings in my browsers, PDF/document reader, image viewer, shell, window manager, and probably other things that escape me at the moment, too. 01:24:50 I use it in qutebrowser (firefox not yet), pdf (zathura), shell (zsh), mail client (neomutt), feed reader (newsboat) 01:25:16 How do you even use vi bindings in window manager? Like dwm? Cuz I don't think that counts 01:26:54 i3 01:27:25 I use vi directional keys (hjkl) heavily. 01:28:35 I use some of i3's mode stuff, and get out of various modes with Esc, too. 01:28:52 Hmmm 01:29:25 I use vi directional keys to control my automobile while driving it. 01:29:28 For some reason, the maintainers default to jkl; instead of hjkl, though, so I have to fix that myself. Like with Vim, I end up copying my own config files for i3 across installs. 01:29:37 Mochi101: That seems dangerous. 01:29:46 so is vi 01:29:58 No, emacs is dangerous. It causes RSI. 01:30:09 unless you have the footpedal and nose pointer. 01:30:14 s/.$// 01:30:17 My mother lost her fingers to emacs 01:30:26 a common tragey 01:30:31 argh, my typing 01:30:33 tragedy 01:30:37 emacs much? 01:30:46 Ok so is there a channel for vim or nvim? 01:30:56 I still suffer from the three cumulative hours of emacs use in my life. 01:31:09 Kinda felt like joining it now 01:31:21 Maybe there is. 01:31:33 /msg alis list #*vim* 01:31:42 hopefully it doesn't give you a thousand results 01:31:53 farzat, /join #vim 01:31:58 jeese 01:32:20 Jeese's Pieces 01:34:02 Mochi101: What do you think of smartchains? 01:34:48 I have some small investment in Stacks and Tezos 01:35:24 There is also #neovim 01:35:29 I like stacks because it uses Bitcoin 01:36:11 Proof of transfer on the BTC network to be able to mine blocks. 01:36:14 I tried Neovim once. It was broken. 01:36:52 Mochi101: . . . so you basically just treat smartchains as speculative asset cryptocurrencies? 01:37:18 Well, I'm too dumb to be able to do anything with smart chains. 01:37:31 So yeah, speculative asset.. Support. 01:37:36 Well it works now 01:37:55 You could have opinions about their use as software development targets and mechanisms for advancements in decentralized blah blah blah $hype or whatever. 01:38:18 farzat: How is it different to use than Vim? 01:38:37 Would my configs be broken? 01:38:57 You will only need to change a few stuff I guess 01:39:03 Maybe nothing at all 01:39:04 hmm 01:39:11 It is not that much difference really 01:39:37 apotheon, I don't think we're there yet. We need someone with a major company (I was hoping Elon and Twitter) to mint a coin on a smartchain and use them as stocks and then pay dividends in BTC or something. 01:39:38 It just that it was a common complaint about how ugly vim's code is 01:39:40 I guess I could just install it alongside Vim and copy the Vim configs into Neovim configs just to see what happens. 01:40:10 So when nvim said they would clean it up a bit I thought well that sounds good 01:40:43 It also had cocurrency and stuff at first, which vim was refusing to adopt 01:41:00 Mochi101: I'm more interested in the idea of just deploying software resources. Hell, it'd be cool to turn things on the public web into network-enabled command line tools that use smart contracts as the "server" side. 01:41:02 But as nvim became a thing vim had to adopt that as well 01:41:51 I guess I should try Neovim again at some point. 01:42:21 My next big "try something", other than the new programming languages I have to learn for the new job and so on, will probably be NixOS, though. 01:42:47 I've about had it up to my eyebrows with other Linux distributions. 01:42:59 if only I could just use OpenBSD at work 01:43:01 apotheon, I don't think that will ever happen. It would be too resource intensive for the nodes. 01:43:23 Mochi101: depends on the resource intensive needs of the application 01:43:29 What would be their incentive though? 01:43:35 A lot of stuff could be improved by being simplified. 01:43:58 We're already expected to pay $25 just to transfer some garbage token on the Ethereum network. 01:44:17 decentralization and public verifiability even when the original source hasn't been shared could be nice incentives 01:44:24 not business incentives, but user incentives 01:45:20 Mochi101: My employer uses a cross-chain bridge and other stuff to make shit much, much faster and cheaper than just running stuff on Ethereum. 01:46:02 Too complicated for regular users. 01:46:48 Yeah, some stuff needs to be smoothed out with time and experience. 01:48:08 From the perspective of people deploying code on Ethereum, though, it's just a kind of API-like thing that allows them to run only the front end on Ethereum itself and essentially run libraries on Near Protocol to do the heavy lifting. 01:48:33 If people can use a PostgreSQL database on the back end of a web application, they can in principle do this, too. 01:49:36 I'm not sure how accessible the explanatory stuff is to people who aren't already into smart contracts and so on, but check https://aurora.dev to see if that helps explain some of what's going on. 01:50:06 There's some biggish infrastructure stuff running on Aurora already. 02:04:09 With stuff like that, I guess we could eventually expect to see some amount of free-ish simple site hosting stuff. 02:14:46 Ethereum's use cases have grown so far beyond it's original design. Without second layer solutions it's hard to see how it can scale without bankrupting the everyman due to gas fees. 02:14:53 Bring on #tari 15:50:07 My wallet says I am sync'd but it's not sync'd at the right height 15:54:35 that would mean the node you're using is syncing still 15:56:13 I am using my own node 15:56:44 I lost internet, maybe it has something to do with that 16:24:12 chown: can you paste the output of "status" in both monerod and monero-wallet-cli ? 16:28:55 I use the gui rn 16:29:37 I restarted it I think it had to do with my internet going out which I forgot happened 16:29:37 Then whether it claims to be connected to the daemon, and what it claims its height is. 16:30:06 the hieight is 1724996 (65.5%) 16:30:15 on mainnet 16:30:43 that's what monerod status output 16:31:07 But my guio says "demon is synchronized" but my wallet blocks are at 2,500,000 16:31:47 Then you probably had synced your wallet earlier to a daemon that was synced further. 16:31:56 I actually sent myself 50 dollars in xmr to test it out and it seems like my wallet isn't sync'd unless I use simpel wallet and conenct to another node 16:32:06 i see I see 16:32:12 So what should I do now? 16:32:56 Wait for your daemon to finish syncing. 16:33:25 If your chain is on a spinning HDD, you may want to move it (even if temporarily) to a SSD, it's much faster. 16:33:25 it says my daemon is synced on the gui 16:33:36 I have it on an ssd 16:33:38 no worries 16:34:03 selsta: ^ 16:34:26 I'd ignore the GUI reporting, seems to be a harmless bug, 16:34:42 ah gotcha 16:35:11 Well it's not updating my wallet height it appears at any rate 16:35:11 The wallet will auto sync once the daemon gets more blocks past that 2,500,000 height the wallet has already seen before. 16:35:25 ah ok