06:32:52 <leonardus> what's the best place to look to hire artists that accept monero?
08:14:03 <lousiF> leonardus, I may be able to assist  ?
08:15:19 <lousiF> lousiF⊙lc if this machine melts
15:59:23 <apotheon> leonardus: Why do I think the people making memes for Wownero might be amenable to accepting Monero for art?
16:05:26 <apotheon> leonardus: Other than that, I think monerica.com, cryptwerk.com, and acceptedhere.io might be good places to check.
16:13:25 <apotheon> leonardus: Note that the way monerica.com is organized you might want to search for all instances of the words "art" and "design" on the page.  Stuff is scattered across different categories.
20:25:48 <chown> so the monero GUI wallet is failing to start the local node and its giving me an error, telling me to check the logs and then telling me to also try and start the node manually
20:27:37 <chown> "Daeomon failed to start: Timed out, local node is not responding after 120 seconds. Please check your wallet and daemon log for errors. You can also try to start monerod manually"
20:28:56 <chown> and i'm un sync'd again kek what the heck
20:29:01 <chown> At least it's syncing fast on monerod
20:30:51 <selsta> chown: do you have a different blockchain location set?
20:31:07 <selsta> inside Settings -> Node?
20:31:20 <chown> yeah I do
20:31:34 <chown> I moved my block chain to my external harddrive and it's pointing to it
20:31:40 <chown> AH
20:31:43 <chown> It's a permission error
20:32:04 <selsta> when starting monerod manually you also have to set --data-dir
20:32:21 <selsta> just in case you are syncing to the default location
20:34:14 <chown> ok so I did monerod --data-dir ~/path/to/directory/ and it returned 
20:34:17 <chown> "fish: Job 1, 'sudo monerod --data-dir ~/mount…' terminated by signal SIGBUS (Misaligned address error)"
20:34:37 <selsta> sounds like a corrupted file
20:34:44 <selsta> try copying again from the default location
20:34:49 <chown> what the fuck lol
20:35:05 <selsta> ~/.bitmonero/lmdb
20:35:07 <chown> I don't know if I have space to download the block chain on my drive
20:35:27 <chown> my main SDD is full from btc
20:35:45 <selsta> did you check the default location?
20:36:07 <chown> yeah it's set to my external
20:37:32 <selsta> --prune-blockchain
20:37:41 <selsta> 45GB instead of 130
20:38:01 <chown> probably still to bit
20:38:03 <chown> big
20:38:35 <selsta> 22:29 <chown> At least it's syncing fast on monerod
20:38:43 <selsta> what did you sync when writing this message?
20:38:54 <selsta> it sounded like it was syncing
20:39:17 <chown> nothign I just ran straight monerod 
20:39:24 <chown> Which I assume it was syncing to my ssd 
20:40:02 <chown> can I like
20:40:06 <chown> I have a 4tb SSD 
20:40:08 <chown> SDD
20:40:18 <chown> Can I sync it to that?
20:40:30 <selsta> sure, as long as it's not a network drive
20:40:51 <chown> like can I do moerod --data-dir ~/path/to/mount?
20:40:55 <selsta> and make sure to not unplug it during sync, that can result in a corrupted blockchain
20:41:01 <chown> Also I set it to the default path on that drive right
20:41:11 <chown> yeah i think that is what happened last night
20:41:22 <chown> I went out to the bar syncing and I unplugged my drive by mistake
20:41:24 <chown> Deff was that
20:41:41 <selsta> there is a safe sync mode that protects against that
20:41:47 <selsta> but makes sync way slower
20:42:19 <chown> ah I see I see
20:42:41 <chown> Well lesson learned at any rate
20:46:58 <chown> So is it better to prune the block chain or just download the whole thing?
22:10:01 <chown> why is it telling me it will take 3.6 months to download reee
22:10:08 <chown> And that's with the freaking pruned block chain
22:20:14 <selsta> chown: pruned and unpruned take the same time to sync
22:20:34 <chown> lol dangggg really? why 
22:20:42 <chown> that's weird considering how data works...
22:20:47 <chown> It's counterintuitive I mean
22:20:56 <selsta> in general it's best to sync on internal ssd as long as you still have space and then move to the external
22:21:10 <chown> oh hmm
22:21:13 <selsta> otherwise usb is a bottleneck
22:21:26 <chown> AH dude I can mvoe my btc wallet to the external and then sync on my SSD hah
22:21:28 <selsta> pruned nodes still verify the whole blockchain, they just don't store everything
22:21:29 <chown> duh
22:30:17 <chown> Now bitcoin-qt wants to download the block chain again
22:30:21 <chown> ugh this is absurd dude
22:38:28 <chown> Why can't block chains be torrented?
22:38:44 <chown> Like it makes zero sense to P2P download a 190 gig file from a single host
22:39:33 <merope> Because torrents are static, otherwise you have no way to verify what you are downloading
22:40:17 <merope> The moment you start introducing code and rules to verify a specific blockchain file, you are designing a node
22:41:17 <merope> Fwiw there have been attempts at sharing the chain via torrents - but they all die out pretty quickly as the file becomes obsolete
22:42:53 <chown> Ok well now my bitcoin client is broken
22:43:16 <chown> >error opening block database
22:43:23 <chown> >Do you wanto to rebuild the block database now?
22:43:36 <chown> >Error:Error opening block database
22:46:12 <merope> I guess that's what happens when you move the blockchain file without changing the setting
22:46:25 <chown> changing what setting?
22:46:31 <chown> How do I download the blockchain down what the heck man
22:50:27 <chown> well bitcoin-qt with the reindex flags worked but damnit dude now I have to download the whole blockchain over again? Seriously man? 
22:50:40 <chown> sigh