00:32:24 <littlebobeep> apotheon: macs always had a following depending on the location, we had a Motorola clone for a while which hardware-wise was a lot better than apple machines IMO
00:32:54 <littlebobeep> and macOS had tons of games
00:35:02 <littlebobeep> https://itch.io/games/platform-linux
00:35:08 <littlebobeep> lots listed here
09:04:50 <gijoe3k> hey gang, What decentralized market place do you guys recommend using to buy some monero? 
09:06:57 <merope> localmonero.co
09:07:10 <merope> (Yes, .co not .com)
13:25:06 <gingeropolous> so I saw some chat somewhere that suggested that viewtags were kinda hard to understand
13:25:11 <gingeropolous> so i made a dumb cartoon
13:25:12 <gingeropolous> https://moneroworld.com/viewtags_cartoon.pdf
13:25:42 <gingeropolous> im hoping someone with actual animation skillz could turn it into a video or something
13:34:33 <plowsof[m]> well done on that, i like pictures and you tricked me into learning
13:37:51 <gingeropolous> danke
13:48:18 <ocb> 'i got tired of being creative with zoidberg' :)
16:40:26 <dEBRUYNE> gingeropolous: Would you mind posting on r/Monero as well? :-P
16:56:29 <hyc> hey - so if you were an ransomware operator, and decided to seed the top ~100 accts on the Bitcoin richlist with your sanctioned funds, do you think that would poison those accounts permanently,
16:56:40 <hyc> or would it just invalidate automated chain taint analysis?
16:58:59 <moneromooo> It would likely do two things:
16:59:11 <moneromooo> - get those on the list to be investigated
16:59:41 <moneromooo> - as much as was sent to be seized when possible
17:00:22 <moneromooo> I doubt invalidating automated chain taint analysis will be considered, govt just add more manpower, and we pay for it via taxes
17:01:31 <moneromooo> IIRC, there's a canonical method for following "hot" funds commingled with "cold" funds if funugible. I think it's FIFO but I'm not sure.
17:02:01 <moneromooo> But in any case, there's a commonly used method, and it predates cryptocurrencies, so they had to deal with that before (though probably at a lower scale).
17:02:50 <hyc> well, predating, they seldom identified the exact money in question, unless it was physically marked with paint etc
17:02:59 <hyc> now, they can exactly identify the coins in question
17:03:10 <klaxa> by the incoming transaction
17:03:18 <klaxa> you can only spend coins you received
17:03:46 <moneromooo> Coins are destroyed when sent.
17:03:52 <klaxa> but i've brought that up as well, i'm not sure there is a definite solution, it's just one of the downsides of permissionless wallets
17:04:25 <moneromooo> So if you send a tx with outouts ABC and B is but while A and C aren't, and that tx creates D and E, I expect they'd apportion the hotness.
17:04:32 <klaxa> transaction fee is meant to deter spam, but a wealthy spammer could waste a bunch of btc to "taint" a lot of wallets
17:04:57 <moneromooo> So depending on hte values of ABCDE, the taint would flow to D, E, or both in varying amounts.
17:05:32 <moneromooo> (in addition to placing the account under surveillance, but since nowadays everyone's undersurveillance, it doesn't really matter anymore)
17:05:50 <moneromooo> Under more hassle I guess.
17:07:05 <hyc> ok, back to the ransomwware operator, with a sanctioned wallet address. anyone he targets with tainted coins can just say "I have nothing to do with this" and surrender the equivalent amount and go on with their lives, yes?
17:07:45 <hyc> but a taint tracking program would then have to whitelist the victim's address
17:07:53 <sech1> they could just send back the specific tainted output, right?
17:08:02 <moneromooo> Probably. After maybe getting to give out lots of extra info on their activities, but I'd expect if they "pass", they just get to surrender the "extra".
17:08:02 <sech1> back to the same address it came from
17:08:56 <sech1> surrender to who? Authorities, the exchange?
17:08:58 <moneromooo> They'd whitelist the govt address the "Extra" got sent. If taint is apportioned as I said above, whitelisting the "victim" isn't needed.
17:09:20 <moneromooo> To the judicary by order I expect. Which can be fun with jurisdictions I guess.
17:09:56 <moneromooo> Quite possibly it'll seldom work in practice. My point is just that there have been methods to deal with similar stuff for ages.
17:09:57 <sech1> quite an effective way to make others waste their time and money
17:10:03 <sech1> if you send $0.01 in tainted BTC
17:10:06 <hyc> I wonder if anyone has deliberately sent any tainted coins to satoshi's address yet
18:40:12 <absolut> hi
18:41:53 <absolut> someine could tell me hao can I remove the blochchain from my debian server? i was sincronycing and when i was at 90% the disk was 100%
18:42:36 <absolut> how can i delete the blockchain from / ?
18:42:40 <selsta> absolut: rm ~/.bitmonero/lmdb/data.mdb
18:42:46 <absolut> oh
18:42:57 <absolut> ok thankyou im gona do that
18:43:23 <absolut> there is a conf where i can modify to put de bbdd on /home not on / ?
18:43:46 <selsta> --data-dir
18:45:55 <absolut> ok thak you
18:46:56 <absolut> thanks
23:17:22 <gingeropolous> jesus christ. u post a pdf u get all the haxors comin down on u
23:25:50 <plowsof[m]> posting from my commadore after being ransomwared by that pdf 
23:25:50 <gingeropolous> oh damnit now the images are huge
23:26:03 <gingeropolous> whats the html code for resize
23:56:43 <escapethe3ra[m]> gingeropolous: just add some css to the img tag `img {max-width: 100%;}` 
23:56:53 <escapethe3ra[m]> pm me if you need help