00:00:07 <manj-gnome> can i safely share the transaction key with the support of a third party site i essentially dont trust?
00:07:35 <apotheon> um
00:07:47 <apotheon> I am not sure what exactly you mean by most of that sentence.
00:08:39 <apotheon> I think I understand "a third party site I essentially don't trust".
00:09:17 <apotheon> define "safely" (for your purposes), "transaction key" in this context, and "support" (again in this context)
00:11:12 <manj-gnome> Is the purpose for the transaction key just to confirm transactions or can someone else also do something malicious with it, like revert or reroute transactions? (sorry i am tired ^^9
00:13:05 <manj-gnome> ah transaction key is the value i have to use with the address to confirm the target of the transaction on blockchair.com
02:13:13 <chown> It's ok /biz/ anon
02:13:16 <chown> i'm active on the irc
02:54:06 <Cashero> .
03:49:13 <Cashero> Boo
14:07:41 <trace987> is it possible to send money into nirvana or will it be only transfered, if there is going to be a reciever
14:12:27 <sech1> possible, but you need to modify cli wallet to send it to an invalid address. Regular wallets will require a valid XMR recipient address.
14:29:07 <ndorf> or just create a new wallet and destroy the private keys
17:39:06 <apotheon> 14:12 < sech1> possible, but you need to modify cli wallet to send it to an invalid address. Regular wallets will require a valid XMR recipient address.
17:39:27 <apotheon> In theory, I'd think there are many valid addresses that don't have active wallets yet, though.
17:40:00 <sech1> in theory, 99.999999....999% of valid addresses don't have wallets :P
17:40:18 <apotheon> right
17:40:23 <merope> All (valid) wallet addresses exist, there's no way to tell which ones have been generated by someone or not
17:40:34 <apotheon> so lots of opportunity to lose the funds, I guess
17:40:37 <apotheon> solution: be careful
17:41:14 <merope> Yeah, but it's unlikely that a random typo could generate a different valid address
17:41:35 <merope> (I actually wonder what that exact probability is)
17:42:34 <apotheon> good question
17:43:14 <apotheon> someone who majored in math should answer this for us
17:43:33 <apotheon> 'cause presumably you don't major in math unless you enjoy this kind of thing
17:47:33 <moneromooo> Well, there's a 32 bit CRC... I assume it's not a shit CRC (not a dumb assumption as the seed CRC is a dumb CRC).
17:51:12 <moneromooo> I looked. It's a bit of a shit CRC, but not *that* shit.
17:56:37 <selsta> moneromooo: https://github.com/monero-project/monero/issues/8347 he replied here :) i just want to make sure that this isn't a new bug
17:57:17 <sech1> moneromooo it's not a CRC, it's first 4 bytes of keccak hash
17:59:07 <moneromooo> Thanks. I'll check.
17:59:26 <moneromooo> Odd, the code I see is straightforward sum of bytes.
17:59:37 <moneromooo> 4 bytes of keccak would be a good hash :)
18:00:35 <sech1> https://github.com/SChernykh/p2pool/blob/master/src/wallet.cpp#L162
18:00:42 <sech1> as far as I remember, it's keccak
18:00:50 <moneromooo> selsta: I did check the changes to that code earlier, I did not see anything recent that's relevant fwiw.
18:02:04 <moneromooo> Great. Looks like the code I had was the original address format.
18:09:43 <selsta> moneromooo: ok, so far no one else has reported this
22:49:23 <Elon_Satoshi> Are the Monero CLI android builds designed for Termux?
23:03:26 <sech1> Yes. I run monerod in Termux
23:04:00 <farzat> How's the card doing though?
23:04:34 <farzat> Doesn't the absurd amount of I/O kill it?
23:05:59 <ndorf> i run monerod on sdcard for like 2 years with no issues
23:06:47 <nioc> soon
23:07:12 <farzat> Nice