03:52:10 <littlebo1eep> Hi all, I know SSD is recommended over HDD for syncing blockchain, but what about SSD via USB?
03:52:21 <littlebo1eep> also on motherboards with only USB 2.0
03:52:26 <littlebo1eep> is this problematic or?
04:06:43 <plowsof[m]> yes, depending on your OS you can run some read/write speed tests on the drive when its connected, im guessing you will have terrible speeds (probably slower than a fast HDD)
08:21:49 <chirp042> HOLA
08:22:12 <chirp042> aye want to get some monero ze otc way sirs 
08:22:33 <chirp042> how do i start up and who do i talk to about this
08:22:38 <chirp042> t 4 thanks 
08:24:38 <chirp042> @littlebo1eep
08:24:41 <chirp042> ehh
08:35:40 <moneromooo> You can try #monero-otc, not sure if that still exists.
08:35:51 <moneromooo> Or localmonero might help.
08:36:02 <moneromooo> (a website that hosts p2p offers)
08:38:53 <chirp042> man #monero-otc is as quiet as a graveyard 
08:39:05 <chirp042> or y'all don't want to sell me some muhnero 
08:39:08 <chirp042> trustlessly 
08:50:33 <moneromooo> Well, trustlessly would involve atomic swaps. I'm not sure they're usable just yet.
08:53:20 <chirp042> ok 
08:53:37 <chirp042> how about non trustless methods
08:59:56 <littlebobeep> sorry can anyone explain about my question about syncing blockchain on SSD via USB 2.0, is this good random write compared to HDD
09:42:23 <moneromooo> Find some disk read/write performance checker and try it with random access rw (this is what monero needs).
09:44:28 <moneromooo> Also, see https://github.com/monero-project/monero/issues/8189 
09:46:28 <littlebobeep> Hummmm but I don't have the hardware available
09:48:08 <littlebobeep> I don't understand why that person had 407G of writes when the blockchain is only like 120G
19:11:14 <inlight> hi hihi hihihihiih 
19:11:15 <inlight> hi 
19:11:51 <moneromooo> Oh I kow that. It's Morse code.
19:12:00 <inlight> Lol
19:12:06 <inlight> do you know me
19:12:15 <moneromooo> Yes, Mr Morse.
19:12:34 <inlight> :)
19:12:41 <inlight> do you use monero? 
19:12:49 <inlight> for what purpose
19:13:16 <moneromooo> I like privacy, so I decline to answer the first question.
19:13:33 <inlight> you are wrong
19:13:38 <inlight> monero provides privacy, 
19:13:41 <moneromooo> About 50% of the time.
19:13:47 <inlight> for what purpose
19:13:50 <inlight> which market
19:14:09 <moneromooo> To fit in.
19:14:17 <moneromooo> If I'm never wrong, people notice.
19:14:39 <inlight> i see
19:14:53 <inlight> we need to create more monero market
19:15:00 <inlight> do you host any service 
19:15:08 <moneromooo> I like privacy, so I decline to answer the first question.
19:15:17 <moneromooo> s/fir/la/
19:15:45 <moneromooo> In fact, all questions. As a point of principle ^_^
19:15:56 <inlight> idiot
19:16:03 <moneromooo> About 50% of the time.
19:16:22 <inlight> are you a bot
19:16:25 <moneromooo> About 50% of the time.
19:16:33 <inlight> .
19:16:48 <inlight> hi Epsilon
19:16:53 <inlight> welcome to #monero
19:16:58 <inlight> how can we help you ?
19:17:11 <moneromooo> Sorry mate, just winding you up. I'm done now.
19:20:21 * moneromooo feeling guilty now
19:20:58 <rbrunner> Yeah, seems you scared them away ... :)
19:27:22 <apotheon> Inge: moneromooo is not a bot
19:27:31 <apotheon> oops
19:27:35 <apotheon> I meant inlight.
19:27:38 <apotheon> Inge: sorry
21:03:07 <user85> is this channel active?
21:05:22 <moneromooo> Yes.
21:05:52 <moneromooo> This is for help with Monero, and general monero discussion. Also privacy related discussion etc.
21:06:48 <user85> with monero cli what's the easiest way to run it via tor from a start - simply create custom conf file and point daemon to it from a start?
21:07:06 <user85> and at this stage how many gb is monero blockchain
21:07:15 <moneromooo> There's a bit in the README about this IIRC.
21:07:36 <moneromooo> I think about 130 GB or so ? Roughly. More like 40 GB is pruned.
21:07:40 <user85> ok
21:07:54 <user85> pruned might be better then
21:13:36 <user85> setup here no inbound connections from other nodes, outbound via tor
21:14:06 <user85> something like ./monerod --tx-proxy "tx-proxy=tor,127.0.0.1:9050,16
21:15:07 <user85> nah I gotta use torsocks to receive blocks via tor too
21:15:09 <user85> :)
21:20:17 <user85> in fact hey i will be downloading only :)
21:20:59 <moneromooo> Oh, I thought you meant monero-wallet-cli with monero cli. FWIW monerod works with with whonix, nothig special to do.
21:22:17 <user85> i might in fact simply connect to some public blockchain node
21:22:28 <user85> instead of hosting a blockchain locally
21:22:33 <moneromooo> ...which will lie to you...
21:22:39 <moneromooo> (maybe)
21:22:48 <user85> nah
21:23:09 <moneromooo> Yes, most just spy, not lie outright.
21:23:21 <moneromooo> Though some do.
21:23:50 <user85> any nodes that relayes data can spy :)
21:24:35 <user85> I am sleepy however I do not see any extra risks with using external node
21:24:43 <user85> assosiated with
21:45:14 <user85> moneromooo: plus  using tor to connect to libera and using same exit node to connect to remote node allows some correlation 
21:46:22 <user85> libera insists on initial clearnet nick registration before connection via tor 
21:48:33 <tinybronca[m]> user85: you can use matrix haha
21:48:42 <mpldr> i just started mining on my phone just to see what kind of hashrate i get an immediately got a share. nice.
21:49:23 <moneromooo> p2pool ?
21:49:58 <mpldr> yup
21:50:07 <moneromooo> Congrats :)
21:50:32 <mpldr> thanks, i wont continue on my phone though :) its laughable
21:52:29 <mpldr> even with tweaking I dont get it to go over 500H/s
21:52:40 <user85> pretty solid
21:53:10 <user85> you can supplement your income by using monero in a different way /ways
21:56:59 <mpldr> honestly, I shouldve run a miner on my work computer before I moved to permanent work from home. had a pretty beefy boy
21:57:54 <tinybronca[m]> user85: not by mining on a smartphone haha
21:59:44 <mpldr> by mining on a smartphone you can tank your phones performance amd warm the battery a bit
21:59:56 <mpldr> might be a good hand warmer in winter though
22:00:25 <mpldr> actually, that idea isnt too bad. i always have cold hands
22:00:33 <user85> do you guys use telegram?
22:01:37 <user85> telegram over tor seems pretty secure - however given it's size I would be surprised if they haven't slided some vulns
22:02:07 <mpldr> telegram is a joke privacy wise…
22:02:44 <mpldr> unless you start secret chats they can read all your messages
22:03:06 <tinybronca[m]> mpldr: yeah well you are using a protocol with absolutely no e2ee support
22:03:12 <user85> that is their official howto
22:04:20 <mpldr> tinybronca[m]: at least on IRC i dont do anything that requires E2EE. private chats are something that in my opinion should be encrypted
22:05:33 <mpldr> i use IRC just because its the easiest way to get high quality answer for tech related questions
22:09:15 <mpldr> tinybronca[m]: apparently there is a proposal to add encryption support. https://github.com/ircv3/ircv3-ideas/issues/29
22:09:26 <mpldr> quite a funny idea
22:32:20 <user85> tinybronca[m]: well apart of using secret chats - it seems telegram is closing more and more group chats 
22:32:24 <user85> some are re open
22:36:18 <user85> irc encryption exist
23:19:40 <Torr> user85: Yup, with OTR for example.
23:21:31 <plowsof[m]> Pidgin + OTR <3
23:51:21 <tinybronca[m]> <Torr> "user85: Yup, with OTR for..." <- I never found Pidgin users to do that with