04:20:40 What do you all think of the assertions in this Bitcoin video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gIYiXbLRy1c 04:55:38 Steven_M: the masked bandit in the video reminds me of HCCP when I was discussing the intricacies of a transparent ledger with a BTC fanatic wearing such garments, he claimed BTC did not need the privacy Monero has, so I requested to take off his mask if privacy does not bother him and he proceeded to walk away whilst being visibly agitated 05:00:27 another conversation I recall having with a BTC person was someone wondering if I would 'switch to' or 'start using' BTC if it were to adopt privacy features; I found the question rude as it implies I hold some sort of vendetta against BTC, while in my eyes I am just avoiding it by its obvious shortcomings 05:02:06 the people in the video claim BTC is more relevant than Monero because 'its a store of value' 05:02:10 .biden 05:02:28 cmon man, get real :D 05:13:21 hide all the things 05:30:49 dsc_: sorry, I was AFK. Typing out my reply now. 05:42:26 dsc_: I get that Monero is #1 for privacy, but I must confess that I am sick and tired of the fact that it's way behind Bitcoin in terms of adoption. At the end of the day a currency is only as good as its adoption. Love your come back about removing his mask though. :-) 05:45:54 Steven_M: retail is clueless, whats new :P 05:49:17 I am positive it is only inevitable people end up at Monero once they realize the weaknesses, which will become more clearly understood as BTC adoption grows 05:50:03 its kind of like linux vs windows, linux is winning 'the slow battle' :P 05:50:15 winning on fundamentals, that is 05:50:45 how long do you think that will take? 05:50:49 ive seen linux adoption explode last 12 years 05:51:04 beginning of this century microsoft was calling it 'a cancer' 05:51:29 Steven_M: im afraid it can take a while :P 05:52:21 dsc_: I have to wait 12 years to spend Monero?! 05:52:38 perhaps some sort of 'event' needs to happen that will lead to a 'mass-awakening' :P 05:52:46 that surely could speed things up 05:56:40 The Canadian Govt stealing trucker's fiat and btc should've helped, but it hasn't yet. 06:07:37 Steven_M: right, events like that yeah 06:08:10 events/situations that show Monero is better suited as a replacement for physical cash 06:08:32 which is the problem Bitcoin tried to solve 06:15:17 Although most people don't know it, Linux is running on 2 billion smartphones, maybe again that number of routers and modems, and yet again that number of smart tvs, tablets, e-readers etc. 06:15:35 What are a few hundred million Windows PCs and notebooks against that :) 06:18:44 And the OS distribution on the Top 500 supercomputers: 100% Linux, 0% Windows 06:19:52 But yeah, it took about 2 decades or so for Linux to dominate to this degree 06:36:48 rbrunner: desktop is the last man standing. windows kernel will eventually switch to linux... resistance is futile!! (joking, but not really, some people forecast this happening) 06:51:13 dsc_: do you use Bitcoin as well as Monero 06:51:17 ? 06:54:01 Steven_M: not really, sporadically when a merchant only accepts BTC 06:55:12 last I used BTC was probably 2018 06:55:51 to buy computer hardware at an electronics store that only accepted BTC 07:11:40 I just wish more online stores accept bitcoin and monero in general. Both are much easier to use compared to credit cards when making payments. 08:45:39 flyastara: that's true. 08:49:48 dsc_: Sorry, I had to go AFK again. I've got a question for you and the other btc users in offtopic 08:55:19 * Steven_M going to watch tv, but will leave IRC open. 10:55:09 See you all. :-) 12:10:44 Hi, where does monero expect the "unsigned_monero_tx" to be located? I always receive "Error: failed to sign transaction" when issuing "sign_transfer" 12:13:15 help sign_transfer 12:13:24 does that help with how to use the command? 12:15:01 tbh: not really :) (I have 0.17.3.2-release) and cant update on my airgapped system now) - I found https://github.com/monero-project/monero/pull/7242/files but that seems not to be included 12:16:02 I actually did exactly this a few months ago and wrote down the steps - now it"s not working and I am completely confused about why; I have a file "unsigned_monero_tx" (when inspecting it its a blob but start says: "Monero unsigned tx set") which I put next to the wallet 12:16:13 (or could there be other reasons that this error occurs?) 12:20:33 could it be an issue that I created the unsigned transaction with 0.18.0.0?! 12:23:02 unfortunately when looking at line ~~7901 https://github.com/drlef/monero/blob/master/src/simplewallet/simplewallet.cpp it seems I do not have an exception (otherwise 'e.what' would be there afaict).. 12:31:04 In the moneor-wallet-cli current working directory. So, if you ran ./monero-wallet-cli, in ., or if you can ./build/monero-wallet-cli, in . too. 12:31:46 Also mkae sure both ends run the same monero-wallet-cli version. 13:00:45 [14:31:46] Also mkae sure both ends run the same monero-wallet-cli version. <- yeh that did the trick, i downgraded my view wallet from 0.18.0.0 to 0.17.3.2 .. 13:00:58 highly unexpected (what about semver? :X) - ty for the help 15:07:56 matrixtest 15:13:45 it works! 15:14:30 haha thanks. I usually have a problem with big channels. 17:09:29 what is the best channel to talk about price entry in xmr? 17:22:09 #monero-markets 17:33:15 0.007 17:33:40 ty selsta 20:08:31 OKK 20:08:33 i will talk here 20:08:35 or not lol