03:45:20 <Steven_M> sech1: Hi, the person really needs their money, do you think I could forget about churning just this once, as long as I churn more going forward? 
03:48:11 <selsta> churning definitely isn't mandatory
03:54:55 <Steven_M> selsta: Could you give me a risk factor as a percentage, or not really?
03:55:34 <selsta> risk factor for what?
03:57:53 <Steven_M> of my tx's being traced if I don't churn?
04:00:25 <selsta> I wouldn't worry about it
04:04:19 <selsta> don't think there is really a percentage someone can say
04:04:43 <selsta> different attacks exist
04:04:54 <selsta> but I personally never worry about churning
04:05:43 <Steven_M> selsta: okay, thanks. :-)
05:13:34 <sech1> Steven_M the attack I was talking about is a statistical attack and it only works if you don't churn many times. Just once should be ok.
05:15:44 <Steven_M> sech1: oh okay, sorry for miss understanding. 
05:17:33 <sech1> in fact, even your original method with 3 wallets is a form of churning and is good enough
05:18:01 <sech1> good enough if you can do random time intervals
06:04:04 <Steven_M> sech1: Okay, thanks :)
15:40:48 <Mochi101> moneromooo, look at these full node dumps! https://blockchair.com/dumps
15:40:56 <Mochi101> They don't do Monero though.
16:18:13 <Guest16> Hello, is exchange_multisig_keys undocumented on https://www.getmonero.org/resources/developer-guides/wallet-rpc.html or it only exists for CLI wallet?
16:47:40 <rbrunner> Guest16: It's there, COMMAND_RPC_EXCHANGE_MULTISIG_KEYS, just not / not yet documented. I would recommend anyway to directly consult the header files.
21:46:13 <tinybronca[m]> Hi all, I had an older version of monderod and was syncing and it had less than 5000 or 7 days left, then I just upgraded to newer monerod and it sees more than double to sync immediately (12000 or 18 days left)... why simply updating the binary it sees more to sync?
21:46:40 <selsta> did you update from v0.17 to v0.18
21:47:14 <tinybronca[m]> selsta: yes
21:47:37 <selsta> monero hardforked so you had to use v0.18 to see the correct chain
21:48:14 <tinybronca[m]> Ahhh okay so the new version sees different blocks... I hope my XMR are safe haha
21:51:47 <selsta> yes
22:15:27 <tinybronca[m]> "WARNING: Do not reuse your Monero keys on another fork, UNLESS this fork has key reuse mitigations built in. Doing so will harm your privacy."
22:15:28 <tinybronca[m]> It would be nice if it could, umm, say if 0.18 has these mitigations or not
22:15:29 <tinybronca[m]> or maybe a link to read more
22:18:35 <selsta> tinybronca[m]: this isn't relevant for monero upgrades
22:18:51 <selsta> this is for other coins that fork from monero
22:19:08 <selsta> monero-classic, monerov, monero original or whatever they were called
22:20:50 <Rucknium[m]> Isn't there a risk if you accidentally spend (or attempt to spend) the same output on the old chain and new chain?