02:46:28 <France1882> Hi, I'm seeking an open-source, easy to integrate into my website Monero Payment gateway.
02:54:33 <Mochi101> France1882, mmmm....
02:54:40 <Mochi101> What kind of web site?
02:55:36 <Mochi101> France1882, maybe start by looking here: https://github.com/monero-ecosystem
02:56:49 <Mochi101> or France1882 here: https://moneroecosystem.org/
02:59:17 <France1882> Just a standard website
02:59:32 <France1882> Needs to accept Monero, want to self-host and not rely on a 3rd party payment processor
02:59:41 <Mochi101> Wordpress?
03:00:32 <France1882> No
03:00:37 <France1882> Not wordpress, no woocommerse shite
03:01:05 <Mochi101> Well, you're not being very helpful...
03:01:11 <France1882> A website
03:01:17 <France1882> I want to accept XMR payments for products
03:01:19 <Mochi101> ok
03:01:20 <France1882> I need a XMR apyment gateway
03:01:24 <France1882> payment gateway
03:01:46 <Mochi101> What kind of infrastructure is hosting your site?
03:01:56 <France1882> Do u mean like
03:02:00 <France1882> Django or Ruby on Rails or OS?
03:02:05 <France1882> NGINX or Apache etc?
03:02:27 <Mochi101> yes... how much access do you have... what can you do with your sever?
03:02:31 <Mochi101> server
03:03:37 <France1882> I rent the VPS/Dedi
03:03:43 <France1882> Its KVM
03:03:48 <France1882> So Its a complete file system
03:03:52 <France1882> I just need some code to accept payments
03:04:53 <Mochi101> what language?
03:05:19 <France1882> English
03:05:50 <Mochi101> you're going to make me lose interest in trying to help you...
03:06:09 <France1882> Ok then
03:06:15 <Mochi101> Python, JS, Java, Rust?
03:06:24 <France1882> For which part?
03:06:33 <Mochi101> the code part
03:06:44 <France1882> Well I havent coded it yet
03:06:48 <France1882> But the website will be HTML/CSS
03:06:57 <France1882> Hosted on NGINX runnig Django or Ruby on Rails
03:08:27 <Mochi101> So you'll likely want to use something from here https://github.com/monero-ecosystem/monero-javascript
03:09:19 <Mochi101> There's not going to be a drop in solution unless you're using WooCommerce, Prestashop or WHMCS.
03:09:27 <France1882> I want to avoid JAvascript, also
03:10:59 <Mochi101> Ruby on Rails is out then?
03:11:08 <France1882> Is Ruby built on JS?
03:11:12 <France1882> Tell me what you know please
03:11:15 <Mochi101> Ruby on Rails is also noteworthy for its extensive use of the JavaScript libraries Prototype and Script.aculo.us for scripting Ajax actions.
03:11:28 <France1882> dang
03:11:32 <France1882> well I can use JS on the backend
03:11:37 <France1882> just not the Front-end for user-browser code
03:11:47 <Mochi101> Sounds like you don't really know what you want.
03:12:01 <Mochi101> That makes it difficult to help you.
03:12:04 <France1882> I want to avoid JS being needed for the users browser when loading my website
03:13:27 <Mochi101> and you're going to do all this yourself?
03:13:37 <France1882> Well, yeah I mean
03:13:39 <France1882> what else are my options
03:13:59 <France1882> I mean, the full-stack web dev framework like RoR or Django should make it easier
03:14:16 <Mochi101> What're you trying to build?
03:15:00 <France1882> I told u
03:15:05 <France1882> a monero payment gateway for my webshop
03:15:30 <Mochi101> ok
03:15:33 <Mochi101> have fun
03:15:38 <Mochi101> Best of luck.
15:03:30 <boarim> using monero-wallet-cli, I tried to automate the password input to open the wallet. My password is encrypted with pass. When using password=`pass show my_password` in the wallet conf file, monero says invalid password on startup. I tried to escape with double quote to no avail
15:04:05 <boarim> I used this trick with other programs like mutt (calling pass in the configuration file parameter) with success. I don’t understand what is going on here
15:04:24 <boarim> any idea?
15:09:00 <moneromooo> It looks like you're trying to use a shell construct. This will only work if a shell (of the right kind) interprets this.
15:09:59 * moneromooo suggests --password-file
15:15:32 <boarim> if I use --password-file, the wallet can’t open it since it’s encrypted (it’s a .gpg file). So, I need to execute a command beforehand to decrypt the file
15:24:15 <moneromooo> If it's encrypted and you don't type the password... the password to the enrypted password is somewhere on your computer is cleartext presumably...
15:25:19 <moneromooo> Is pass a running program that has it in RAM ?
15:29:10 <boarim> pass uses gpg-agent to decrypt the password files. So as long as gpg-agent has the gpg private key passphrase in memory, pass decrypts the password files without user interaction. If gpg-agent delay is expired, when invoking pass, gpg-agent invokes pinentry to type the gpg passphrase
15:32:16 <moneromooo> Ah. That hard to disable gpg-agent... I always get freaked out when stuff that shold be asking me password suddenly doesn't after an update...
15:33:24 <moneromooo> Though it got enabled again not that long ago, kinda got used to it. Still, always a bit unsettling knowing it keeps your creds.
15:34:55 <moneromooo> Anyway, if you're a coder, you'll have to add a new option that runs a process to get the password, ie, --get-password "command". If you're not, you'll have to wait for someone to do so.
15:35:10 <moneromooo> Running a config file through a shell seems... dangerous.
15:54:50 <boarim> alright thanks for the insight
15:56:44 <boarim> I do have another issue though. I want to make a payment. I have enough XMR in my unlocked balance. However, when making the attempt to send I got:
15:56:47 <boarim> WARNING: Outputs of multiple addresses are being used together, which might potentially compromise your privacy.
15:56:56 <moneromooo> Actually... might work if you use: --password-file `barf`
15:57:02 <moneromooo> And barf does a few things:
15:57:06 <moneromooo> calls pass show
15:57:18 <moneromooo> writes its output to /tmp/pass
15:57:19 <boarim> If I specify the index in the transfer command, it says I don’t have enough XMR in my unlocked balance
15:57:25 <moneromooo> writes "/tmp/pass" to stdout
15:57:30 <moneromooo> forks and exits
15:57:42 <moneromooo> the forked one waits a few seconds and wipes /tmp/pass
15:57:56 <moneromooo> If /tmp is tmpfs, the password doesn't hit the disk.
15:58:44 <moneromooo> It says "WARNING". Is it somehow more than a warning and prevents you from sending ?
15:59:46 <boarim> I cancelled the transfer when getting this message. The privacy compromising thing startled me
15:59:57 <boarim> so I don’t know if it could be carried out
16:00:59 <moneromooo> It's a warning. If you're trying to escape the mafia, you can use sweep-single on N-x of the outputs back to yourself, not all at once.
16:01:14 <moneromooo> Then send normally.
16:01:50 <boarim> It didn’t show up with the previous wallet version though…curious
16:02:04 <moneromooo> (by "not all at once", I mean with varying delays between them.
16:02:38 <boarim> I don’t have this threat level, so it’s not a practical problem
16:03:32 <moneromooo> What the warning is saying is that if you gave Alice address 1, 2 and, and sje has no idea they're all you, and she sent to each,
16:04:02 <moneromooo> then if you make a tx that uses ring members from all at once, it's a lot more likely than not that 1, 2, and 3 belong to the same person.
16:04:51 <moneromooo> So she can assume 1 2 and 3 are in fact the same person. If she knows "address 1 belong to Joe Bloggs", she can probabilistically infer "2 belongs to Joe Bloggs".
16:05:32 <boarim> ok. I’m not in this case so it should be fine
16:05:37 <moneromooo> It's possible it'd happen by chance, but is much more likely to happen if 1 2 and 3 are indeed the same owner.
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19:31:04 <apotheon> I'm not sure what you're asking.
19:31:10 <apotheon> I'm about to head out, though, so . . . ta.
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