15:56:17 <hyc> hm, this story is odd. Colorado will accept tax payments in crypto, using PayPay as their pmt processor https://statescoop.com/colorado-starts-accepting-crypto-tax-payments/
15:56:34 <hyc> but PayPay is a japanese company. I can hardly find any English language articles about them
15:56:53 <ndorf> what a waste of perfectly good crypto that would be
15:57:26 <NorrinRadd> ^
15:57:30 <hyc> oh must be a typo. later on the article says PayPal.
15:57:46 <NorrinRadd> there's no point if they're converting immediately.  just pay them in cuckbucks
15:57:54 <hyc> right
15:58:10 <hyc> and paypal is collecting 1.83% fee
15:58:38 <hyc> what a great hustle
16:00:51 <hyc> looks like paypal only supports BTC, ETH, BCH and LTC
16:00:56 <hyc> meh
16:18:34 <grumblemobile> Nice. That means Paypal does not steal from monero users.
16:31:52 <hyc> lol
16:32:16 <hyc> they gave me $20 to "buy crypto" on their platform
16:32:38 <hyc> it'll be captive there forever afaics
17:45:31 <Mochi101> hyc, isn't Paypal Singapore based?
17:45:55 <Mochi101> oh paypay is a different company... nvm
17:48:50 <hyc> yeah it's justa stupid typo in the article
17:48:55 <Mochi101> hyc, it's a typo in the article
17:48:56 <Mochi101> The Colorado Department of Revenue website has been modified to add cryptocurrency as a payment option when paying taxes online. People will be directed to PayPal, where they can select which cryptocurrency they want to use.
17:49:03 <Mochi101> https://www.denverpost.com/2022/09/21/colorado-accepts-cryptocurrency-taxes/
17:56:08 <selsta> The company wouldn’t comment on whether it has succeeded. Gronager, however, is less circumspect. Privacy coins are “not as anonymous as they think,” he says. “No matter what you do, you leave a pattern.”
17:56:52 <selsta> Chainanalyis on their monero tracing contract with the IRS
17:56:56 <selsta> https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-09-21/crypto-tracer-chainalysis-busts-bitcoin-btc-anonymity
18:00:04 <hyc> I suppose at some level that is factually true
18:00:17 <revuoxmr> Revuo Monero. Issue 138: September 15 - 22, 2022. http://revuo-xmr.com/issue-138.html
18:03:15 <selsta> they are being quite vague, the other company at least claims they can trace monero :P but sure, you always leave a trace, that applies to everything
18:03:38 <selsta> i'm sure they run spy remote nodes
18:04:40 <hyc> I suppose if snarks or starks worked well we could eliminate all on-chain traces
18:04:53 <hyc> but there would always be network logs, webserver logs, etc.
18:09:41 <Mochi101> Chainalysis is leaving a pattern of bullshit all over the place too.
18:10:59 <hyc> lol
18:21:00 <hyc> I'm still surprised no crypto journalist has filed a FOIA request to see if the final bounty payments were paid out.
18:21:51 <hyc> I suspect they haven't ...
21:56:19 <MajesticBank> company with most tracing capabilities related to monero is currently trmlabs