00:00:13 <aberration> given it's high-level abstraction as a language I can see why that is valuable
00:02:49 <fragcula> gotta hit the hay, but the rabbit hole goes deep. Microcode means modern CPUs might not even have hardware for the instruction you ask for and ineffect run a virtual CPU using microcode?!
00:03:04 <fragcula> termer: Jazelle that was it! what a random event in history haha
00:04:00 <termer> crazy shit man
00:08:01 <aberration> fragcula: good night dont let the bed bugs infect you with incurable diseases or something like that; your second sentence reminds me of intel's hidden spyware they hide in their chips
00:08:18 <aberration> what was it uh, management something
00:09:33 <aberration> fragcula: on topic though, this whole conversation has enlightened me about virtual processors, i took them for granted
00:16:44 <as2333> aberration python runs bytecode as well
00:21:30 <aberration> as2333: yupp that explains .pyc :D, i'm surprised I got to this point and my idea of virtualization was limited to VMs
00:22:10 <aberration> but then this sparks a question on how virtualization on these other interfaces are possible even if you do not enable virtualization on the kernel level
00:32:03 <hv-bridge> <DJChris> and stored in the balls
02:07:33 <termer> penis is stored in the balls
02:33:36 <aberration> termer: sure, the phallus is store in the spheres; but can you tell me why apache is so fucking different in RHEL compared to debian
02:33:47 <aberration> like they might as well be two different fucking things it's absolutely absurd
02:42:06 <hv-bridge> <DJChris> diff releases?
02:44:07 <hv-bridge> <DJChris> are they not both source? and if so, different source?
02:48:41 <termer> aberration no idea, I never used RHEL
02:49:38 <hv-bridge> <DJChris> same. I love Debian I think it's solid.
02:50:48 <aberration> termer: thank the lord, you probably don't care about it but if you are curious why i asked you since you're a web dev this blog post sums it up --> https://drjohnstechtalk.com/blog/2012/03/major-headaches-migrating-apache-over-from-ubuntu-ato-centos/
02:50:57 <aberration> hv-bridge: Amen brother, using debian as we speak
02:51:12 <aberration> the problem is that, they use entirely different methods of implementing modules which ends up being a massive headache
02:51:22 <aberration> debian is the bigger winner, juse use a2enmod and you're chilling
02:51:53 <aberration> RHEL? Centos? Oh my fucking god prepare to drink 40 Monster energies and 2000mg of adderall just to implement a simple god damn php upload page
02:52:15 <aberration> giving birth is less pain than maintaining httpd in the rhel family, it is unbelievable
02:52:36 <hv-bridge> <DJChris> Ubuntu 9.90 was my first experience with Deb
02:52:46 <hv-bridge> <DJChris> I don't envy you.
02:53:06 <hv-bridge> <DJChris> You found Digital Hell?
02:53:41 <aberration> hv-bridge: Ironically many many years ago when I was a young lad I first started ubuntu but I was too young to really understand the terminal and I didn't have the patience for it and years later I went back to linux by making a home server on debian; then i never turned back to propietary software
02:53:45 <aberration> indeed
02:53:53 <aberration> I don't even know what to call it it's just uhh
02:53:58 <aberration> psychological tortue
02:54:00 <aberration> i think
02:54:50 <great_taste> computers are a huge pain
02:54:55 <aberration> man I keep forgetting this is #monero
02:55:11 <aberration> great_taste: there's a reason why endorphins are essential
02:56:33 <great_taste> we are fucking warriors... we have infinite patience and get things done despite the hopelessness that takes over at times... we keep pushing and end up victorious
02:56:59 <termer> aberration I don't use apache
02:57:07 <termer> haven't for a long time
03:01:49 <aberration> great_taste: we are indeed warriors, all we ever want are things to return 0 after multiple crying sessions and manic euphoria
03:02:34 <aberration> termer: hm, is it because it's not appropriate on a commercial level?
03:02:52 <aberration> really I only use to to host kanboard and have a little lab
03:02:52 <hv-bridge> <DJChris> or at least not break anything
03:02:54 <termer> it's a shit webserver
03:02:56 <termer> use nginx
03:03:10 <aberration> oh nonono apache bros......
03:03:13 <termer> apache performs like garbage, old process/thread-based webserver
03:03:21 <aberration> but it worky tho
03:03:51 <aberration> hv-bridge: when you break things you end up studying the pieces and figure out eventually; how to break shit in a more elaborate manner
03:04:39 <aberration> termer: what about jetty
03:04:54 <hv-bridge> <DJChris> quantum study of mess
03:05:00 <termer> don't use jetty
03:05:09 <termer> why would you want to use Jetty unless you're doing really old JSP shit
03:05:19 <aberration> but it's a java webserver and I thought you were married to java
03:05:25 <termer> no
03:05:26 <aberration> also its the default for i2p
03:05:31 <termer> I'm married to good technology
03:05:31 <aberration> o
03:05:35 <termer> if you're doing reverse proxying or serving static content, or doing PHP or whatever, use nginx
03:05:42 <aberration> ok so you're non-committal I see
03:05:52 <termer> I exploit technology
03:06:30 <aberration> hv-bridge: it just turns into fractals and you end up creating something, it's beautiful
03:07:00 <aberration> exploitation is a strong word, but many don't know that it simply means to use something to it's potential
03:07:15 <aberration> so when I say im exploiting my slaves, im simply doing the best for them
03:07:32 <aberration> its*
03:08:32 <aberration> termer: how different is nginx from apache if you were to compare them like fruit
03:08:41 <termer> software isn't fruit
03:08:50 <aberration> ok just... this is what we call figurative language
03:08:56 <termer> good lookup performance comparisons
03:09:05 <aberration> ok but like
03:09:18 <aberration> a strawberry is sweet, like some species of apples; but never as sour as a pineapple you know?
03:11:27 <termer> Apache can handle less requests at the same time and uses more resources per request
03:12:10 <aberration> yeah im seeing what you mean now, seems to the consequences of MPMs
03:12:17 <aberration> to be the*
03:36:34 <hv-bridge> <DJChris> Yeah, it's a very apt analogy.
14:59:05 <hyc> thorchain halted for 20 hours https://twitter.com/THORChain/status/1585715358568153089
14:59:44 <hyc> is that a decentralized halting mechanism where all nodes agree to stop processing? :P
15:19:15 <moneromooo> Now that's consensus.
18:12:07 <yang2> Hello, how large is the blockchain directory of Monero CLI ?
18:15:18 <Mochi101> yang2, blockchain is ~143Gb currently
18:23:40 <yang2> thanks
20:38:15 <fsk99> hi, i get this error Failed to commit a transaction to the db: File too large
20:38:26 <fsk99> ext 4 , multi 100gb free, what is this?
20:38:41 <fsk99> on starting monerod
20:40:33 <Mochi101> fsk99, you have free storage space?
20:40:42 <Mochi101> Like, is your disk full?
20:41:13 <fsk99> avail 194G
20:41:32 <fsk99> for the dir where it has its storage dir .monero whatever
20:41:43 <Mochi101> .bitmonero
20:41:46 <fsk99> yea
20:43:02 <fsk99> Error opening database: Failed to commit a transaction to the db: File too large
20:46:53 <Mochi101> no idea then
20:46:57 <Mochi101> sorry
20:48:20 <fsk99> yea :P np
20:50:04 <Mochi101> Selling monero.win if anybody is interested... to make decent money it needs a substantial float amount and it's something I'm not willing to put up. For that reason, and others I've shut it down and would like to sell it.
20:52:40 <yang2> Which tcp ports need to be open for monerod?
20:52:51 <yang2> is this procedure that goes on syncing ok - https://paste.debian.net/plainh/f7dab49f
20:53:18 <Mochi101> You're good
20:53:28 <fsk99> traced it to : syscall pwrite64 - EFBIG error with HUUUGE offset which is clearly out of filesize
20:54:37 <fsk99> i.e. its trying to write at 144 Petabyte
20:55:08 <fsk99> can i somehow start it with discarding open commits and refresh a little bit (but not the whole db) ?
20:55:35 <yang2> I read the Monero website manual, but I didn't see any web/www monero wallets, do they exist ?
20:55:38 <moneromooo> Looks like it's trying to save the ethereum chain.
20:55:55 <moneromooo> But no, this sounds like "delete db and sync again".
20:56:07 <fsk99> fucking hell
20:56:09 <fsk99> ;P
20:56:10 <moneromooo> yang2: mymonero is a web wallet
20:56:17 <yang2> mymonero.com ?
20:56:23 <moneromooo> Yes.
20:56:26 <yang2> ok thanks
20:56:47 <SerHack> is moneroworld.com dead?
20:57:00 <Mochi101> seems
20:57:10 <moneromooo> fsk99: You may want to keep your db in case hyc wants to have a look at it to see why it's that way.
20:57:31 <moneromooo> ext4 ought not shoot the db up...
20:58:17 <yang2> Where is the manual for monero CLI commands?
20:58:37 <moneromooo> "help" in monero-wallet-cli
20:58:50 <moneromooo> Then "help $X" for a particular command X.
20:59:04 <yang2> ok 
20:59:17 <moneromooo> Might have a help_all or the like, IIRC help was pared down.
20:59:28 <Mochi101> help all
21:00:50 <fsk99> moneromooo: i'll check out the log to see if i see what may have went wrong
21:06:11 <fsk99> hm i can't pinpoint it theres a huge number of std::runtime_error error exceptions and boost::wrapexcept<boost::bad_weak_ptr>
21:08:04 <fsk99> pretty much after the pointer exception it went to garbage spitting out file too large err
22:57:37 <aberration> RIP monerworld.com, they hosted the first node I ever used