02:11:15 <L29Ah> is it possible to issue my own tokens on Monero blockchain/network?
02:11:24 <selsta> no
02:27:23 <Mochi101> Come on, give him the non-complicated answer selsta 
02:27:34 <Mochi101> You're always so technical.
04:06:11 <bigslim[m]> I tried xmr node on pi. It was death.
04:06:47 <bigslim[m]> Would not personally recommend that unless you have no other option.
04:31:16 <ofrnxmr[m]> Same
04:31:53 <ofrnxmr[m]> https://github.com/nahuhh/android-termux-monero-node/releases/tag/master-beta
04:31:53 <ofrnxmr[m]> Much better on android 
04:34:00 <ofrnxmr[m]> Disclaimer: I have never tried on PiNode, but know the pi is not suited for running a monero node due to lack of hardware istructions, namely aes
05:29:57 <AustinHuang[m]1> what is the Autosave function for in your monero wallet?
06:39:19 <rbrunner> haveno.network is down for me for the second day. Anybody knows something? Pinging ErCiccione and woodser
06:40:00 <monerobull[m]> Erciccione is gone
06:40:20 <monerobull[m]> SGP said something about the domain going down for a bit
06:40:54 <rbrunner> Yes, I know that they retire from Haveno, and said something about a server switch, but if that's the problem it's taking quite long already ...
06:41:20 <rbrunner> I want my Seraphis workgroup Matrix room back :)
06:42:31 <monerobull[m]> This is why people dont want to deal with federation 
06:43:18 <rbrunner> I use to say that everything comes with trade-offs. Centralization as well as federation in this case.
06:43:33 <monerobull[m]> All the pain of a p2p network with many small centralized hubs that are way more likely to go down than something run by a megacorp
06:44:39 <rbrunner> Just wait until the longtime outages of Twitter start because nobody left there really knows anymore how to get the systems back to their feet
06:45:24 <monerobull[m]> The new thing ex Twitter CEO was working on looked kinda neat, supposed to be federated but you can easily swap Homeservers without losing anything 
06:46:16 <ajs_[m]> It is probably better to just rebrand haveno and get a new domain
06:46:32 <ajs_[m]> I never liked the name
06:47:02 <ajs_[m]> To similar to the scam coin
06:47:08 <monerobull[m]> Cakeveno /s
06:47:21 <rbrunner> Yeah, all the confusion caused by a brand-new name will definitely improve things.
06:47:47 <rbrunner> People still stumble over Kovri, after literally years :)
06:47:53 <monerobull[m]> Better now than once it's mainnet 
06:48:18 <rbrunner> Ah, that scamcoin.
06:48:46 <rbrunner> There are what, 20,000 "coins" now, I am sure one is called like the new name you come up with
06:54:35 <rbrunner> Funny anyway how the IRC channel opened as a companion for the Matrix room on the Haveno server is still up
10:27:18 <ajs_[m]> Reminder: MoneroKon 2023 Meeting: Sat. 26th Nov. 2022 @ 18:00 UTC - Review, approval of CFP & CCS Drafts - https://github.com/monero-project/meta/issues/753
11:33:20 <jkhsjdhjs> hey, I have the same issue from yesterday again, 2 threads using 80% cpu each
11:34:40 <jkhsjdhjs> Height: 2763439/2763439 (100.0%) on mainnet, not mining, net hash 2.59 GH/s, v16, 24(out)+74(in) connections, uptime 0d 16h 24m 12s
11:35:02 <jkhsjdhjs> Received 3092083125 bytes (2.88 GB) in 2067066 packets in 16.4 hours, average 51.13 kB/s = 0.00% of the limit of 1.00 GB/s
11:35:09 <jkhsjdhjs> Sent 24024817191 bytes (22.37 GB) in 1591485 packets in 16.4 hours, average 397.27 kB/s = 0.04% of the limit of 1.00 GB/s
11:36:36 <jkhsjdhjs> I also have logs with log-level=1, but I don't know what may be relevant, there's so much being logged
11:36:40 <moneromoooo> Check where the CPU is going using: sudo perf top -a
11:37:08 <moneromoooo> Let it run for a dozen seconds or so. Paste the top dozen lines to paste.debian.net.
11:37:38 <moneromoooo> If it's fe_sq, fe_mul, etc, it's verifying txes.
11:37:55 <moneromoooo> But if you're synced, it's less likely.
11:41:46 <jkhsjdhjs> alright, it's running. but I think my monerod binary doesn't include debug symbols
11:47:22 <jkhsjdhjs> it looks like it didn't take too long for the issue to come back. I'll build it again with debug symbols and report back in a few hours
11:47:50 <ofrnxmr[m]> ?????
11:48:03 <ofrnxmr[m]> Do what moo asked please
11:48:47 <plowsof> +1
11:49:32 <jkhsjdhjs> the problem is that without debug symbols perf top will only show addresses instead of function names, which won't be helpful
11:49:40 <ofrnxmr[m]> And if youre running a custom binary, try running the release version first..!!
11:52:22 <jkhsjdhjs> alright, I'll check with the official binary
11:55:56 <ofrnxmr[m]> 10x more uploads than download. Is your rpc open to the public?
11:56:05 <jkhsjdhjs> nope
11:56:48 <jkhsjdhjs> I have restricted rpc with login required and unrestricted rpc for localhost
11:59:29 <jkhsjdhjs> alright, now running the official binary. perf top now also shows the correct names. let's see if this issue comes back
12:03:52 <ofrnxmr[m]> I hope you are also using default settings 
12:09:55 <jkhsjdhjs> nope. if this issue occurs with the official binary with any settings, it's an issue with monerod and worth debugging IMO
12:10:42 <jkhsjdhjs> I may run it again with default settings - if the issue occurs again - to verify that it's specific to my settings though
12:10:59 <jkhsjdhjs> to narrow it down
12:12:49 <ofrnxmr[m]> Either 
12:12:49 <ofrnxmr[m]> - run 100% of your reproducible code (cant because you disabled debug symbols, lol?)
12:12:49 <ofrnxmr[m]> - run 100% release code and config
12:12:49 <ofrnxmr[m]> If release code and config have an issue, we may have a bug
12:14:42 <ofrnxmr[m]> Also helps if you share your actual start commands / flags 
12:15:11 <jkhsjdhjs> I installed monerod via my distributions packages, this is why debug symbols were disabled
12:15:48 <jkhsjdhjs> flags are just --config /etc/monerod.conf --non-interactive
12:15:53 <jkhsjdhjs> can also share my config, one sec
12:17:14 <ofrnxmr[m]> Who maintains distro packages for us?
12:17:45 <jkhsjdhjs> https://bpa.st/QT3Q
12:18:07 <jkhsjdhjs> https://archlinux.org/packages/community/x86_64/monero/
12:18:13 <jkhsjdhjs> this is the package I used
12:18:52 <ofrnxmr[m]> Might be ssl stuff, but that shouldbhave been fixed in 18.0
12:20:40 <ofrnxmr[m]> Why did you add these ssl flags
12:20:41 <ofrnxmr[m]> `rpc-ssl-allow-any-cert=1 rpc-ssl-private-key=/var/lib/monero/rpc_ssl.key rpc-ssl-certificate=/var/lib/monero/rpc_ssl.crt`
12:21:49 <jkhsjdhjs> rpc-ssl-allow-any-cert=1 ignores client certificates afaict and let's any client connect afaict
12:22:16 <jkhsjdhjs> and the other two are just the path to the certificate I generated with monero-gen-ssl-cert
12:22:26 <jkhsjdhjs> or isn't that necessary?
12:22:33 <ofrnxmr[m]> The certs are generated automatically 
12:22:43 <jkhsjdhjs> ah
12:23:23 <ofrnxmr[m]> rpc-ssl=enabled
12:23:23 <ofrnxmr[m]> Is all that you need unless you are using custom certs
12:23:41 <jkhsjdhjs> ah I see
12:24:12 <jkhsjdhjs> if the issue occurs again I will remove that and test again if that's the culprit
12:24:32 <ofrnxmr[m]> If it persists, Run perf top first 
12:24:40 <jkhsjdhjs> will do
12:37:14 <plowsof> whonix is the only one under ccs sponsorship
13:24:48 <ajs_[m]> isn't there one for debian too
13:32:22 <plowsof> ah yes, that is the debian repository (maintained by/for whonix)
14:07:22 <sgp[m]> rbrunner: I didn't realize "no wallet left behind" was a Haveno room
14:07:50 <plowsof> no room left behind , pls share x 
14:08:19 <rbrunner> You did not, as in "past tense"?
14:09:13 <sgp[m]> I don't plan to continue running a Haveno matrix server. We can use matrix.org or monero.social
14:10:23 <sgp[m]> rbrunner: what accounts are admins of that matrix room? They should be able to add new room addresses
14:11:25 <rbrunner> As far as I know I am the only admin of that room. Adding a new room address, with everything down, not sure I understand how that should work.
14:11:29 <sgp[m]> rbrunner: this account can't accept DMs from Libera
14:11:51 <sgp[m]> rbrunner: Rooms exist on multiple servers. Was your matrix account on haveno.network?
14:12:01 <rbrunner> Yes.
14:12:08 <rbrunner> Was.
14:12:33 <sgp[m]> Grr. Gross. Silly. Sorry, this channel wasn't communicated to me as a Haveno channel
14:13:13 <rbrunner> I understood ErCiccione to say that the whole Haveno infrastructure will just get copied 1-1. Wasn't that the idea?
14:13:34 <sgp[m]> I'll see if we can set it up for a bit, but I have no intention of running a Haveno matrix that only a couple people use. Might not be till Mon; it's a holiday weekend
14:13:42 <rbrunner> I knew about the server change, but did not worry, or prepare anything, based on this.
14:13:46 <sgp[m]> You are literally 1 of 2 users
14:13:47 <ajs_[m]> sgp: make your life easier and just rebrand :)
14:14:45 <rbrunner> We even had an IRC bridge set up for that. selsta and I put hours into that.
14:14:54 <rbrunner> plus ErCiccione.
14:15:54 <sgp[m]> I'm sorry you're upset, but I wasn't aware a Monero wallet migration channel was dependent on the Haveno server. It wouldn't have come to mind. As mentioned, I'll look into setting up from backup so you can get in and migrate things away
14:16:11 <sgp[m]> Is there a reason monero.social wasn't used for this?
14:17:20 <rbrunner> History. My user was on Haveno for historic reasons, so I opened a room, and naturally it got opened there.
14:17:39 <rbrunner> After I got confirmation from ErCiccione that they are cool with that room being there, that was it.
14:20:43 <rbrunner> Not sure whether it's even worth to try to "migrate things away". Maybe that's just wasted time. If that does not work perfectly, e.g. without people having to rejoin anything, I don't think it's worth it.
14:24:31 <rbrunner> Could I open a room on monero.social myself?
14:24:54 * ofrnxmr[m] uploaded an image: (36KiB) < https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/monero.social/QbRKUNfjxUidzOyuQeMgXARJ/Imagepipe_606.jpg >
14:25:31 <ofrnxmr[m]> I think it should migrate easily?
14:25:32 <ofrnxmr[m]> Irc shouldn't depend on the domain, and matrix allows setting additional addresses (and changing them) 
14:26:10 <rbrunner> Yeah, nice and all, and if one of those addresses goes down, things just continue smoothly? This guy here with 40 years in IT doubts.
14:26:44 <ofrnxmr[m]> Ideally, it SHOULD be on monero.social and matrix.org.  doesnt make sense for cake to host monero wallet development, a bit of COI even
14:27:33 <rbrunner> Look, the room that got nuked was already the second one. We had to evacuate the first one to make the IRC bridge possible (it was encrypted).
14:28:10 <ofrnxmr[m]> Was it on monero.social / matrix.org or reliant on back room dealings
14:28:18 <rbrunner> So if I do something now, I want it to be as sure and as foolproof, and simple, as possible.
14:28:19 <ofrnxmr[m]> Js
14:28:57 <ofrnxmr[m]> Id think that would imply a migration to known reliable servers 
14:29:02 <rbrunner> What do you mean with "back room dealings"? I reported already that it got created on that Haveno server because my user was there
14:30:19 <ofrnxmr[m]> I mean, haveno changing hands and your room being dropped, and cake having to host it again so you can migrate off of their server
14:31:09 <ofrnxmr[m]> You made the room, I assume, you assumed that haveno.network was not going to do that ^, but haveno is not monero and haveno changed hands.
14:31:46 <rbrunner> Yeah, I was indeed assuming that nobody nukes my room :)
14:32:22 <plowsof> after the migration , maybe we can add the room to the hangouts getmonero page @rbrunner https://github.com/monero-project/monero-site/pull/2096/files
14:32:40 <rbrunner> And as I said, I got the impression (maybe my bad, who knows) from ErCiccione that everything will just migrate, so I did not prepare anything beforehand.
14:33:05 <rbrunner> Just waiting, blissfully unaware.
14:33:24 <plowsof> its out of your hands rbrunner don't worry 
14:34:07 <rbrunner> I don't worry, I am not even particularly upset, because that's not productive. I just want one thing, with that *third* try: Make it right.
14:34:44 <plowsof> we must wait until at least Monday 
14:35:07 <rbrunner> So, people, what is right? I assume nobody will nuke monero.social anytime soon, right? Is that considered Monero core infrastructure?
14:35:25 <ofrnxmr[m]> Monero.social matrix is managed by core team
14:35:29 <rbrunner> Who calls the shots there? Who is all-mighty admin there?
14:35:43 <ofrnxmr[m]> I dont know the full details, but it used to be managed BT Diego, but core has control now
14:36:04 <rbrunner> Ok, and as of now it's probably "too big to fail", I hope?
14:36:31 <plowsof> maybe reschedule the seraphis meeting to the MRL channel temporarily if its an issue? (as it might not be fixed on monday)
14:37:03 <ofrnxmr[m]> Should be as solid as getmonero, id assume. But i personally would like some reassurance that core is indeed running the matrix servers
14:37:16 <rbrunner> I was thinking of that, but the problem might be to reach people in time. I think it's not a good idea to schedule a meeting for Monday under these circumstances.
14:37:20 <Stnby[m]> ofrnxmr[m]: Who manages these exactly?
14:37:28 <plowsof> ill ask , start your timers 
14:37:37 <ofrnxmr[m]> ofrnxmr[m]: ^ Stnby: 
14:37:47 <Stnby[m]> Aint solid for shit
14:38:09 <ofrnxmr[m]> Tldr: I dont know. I want to know
14:38:22 <rbrunner> selsta, are you around? If we start a brand new room on monero.social, will we need a brand-new IRC bridge, or will it be possible to re-configure the one we have?
14:38:39 <selsta> i'm around yes
14:39:07 <rbrunner> Did you get the story with the nuked Haveno room already? Puff, smoke, gone :)
14:39:09 <Stnby[m]> A sec I will try to find the rant of not knowing how firewall works, using cloudflare blindly, using End of life distros
14:39:17 <Stnby[m]> * the rant: of
14:39:19 <Stnby[m]>  * A sec I will try to find the rant: not knowing how firewall works, using cloudflare blindly, using End of life distros
14:39:22 <selsta> it should be possible to reconfigure the bridge, I think we did something similar for #monero
14:39:55 <rbrunner> Or, if we need a new one, is that a drama, will we annoy somebody, e.g. at Libera, or is that just daily business?
14:40:18 <selsta> I don't think Libera is involved with this at all
14:40:34 <selsta> we just need a new matrix room and then reconfig the bridge
14:40:44 <rbrunner> So that's good.
14:41:08 <rbrunner> Do you happen to know whether I could open that myself on monero.social, or do I need help?
14:43:02 <ofrnxmr[m]> After sgp sets up haveno.network for you, try just adding it to monero.social and matrix.org
14:43:29 <ofrnxmr[m]> Then deleting the haveno.network address.
14:43:29 <ofrnxmr[m]> I imagine the bridge should remain (?) But that bridging stuff was annoying 
14:44:02 <ofrnxmr[m]> xmrscott @xmrscott:monero.social:  is good to ask
14:45:38 <nioc> I remember when the rooms were only IRC
14:45:52 <plowsof> ive not had confirmation yet but im going to hazard a guess that the 2kusd~month on matrix infra is probably monero .social 
14:46:12 <nioc> I would like this as my username >> Just waiting, blissfully unaware
14:46:57 <rbrunner> The thought crossed my mind, why make everything about 100 times more complex, and just use the IRC room #no-wallet-left-behind.
14:47:19 <rbrunner> But I got addicted, in a way, to the effortless logging of Matrix.
14:48:14 <rbrunner> It's only about for 2 month that I started to use Matrix in earnest, and already lost one room because "encrypted" and a second one by "backroom deals". Oh joy :)
14:48:15 <sech1> just run IRC on your server 24/7, and you'll get the logging
14:50:06 <sgp[m]> rbrunner: it's pretty easy to use the Libra bridge that matrix.org provides. That's what all the other Monero channels use. I can help walk you through it
14:50:54 <rbrunner> There is a bridge already, and selsta is in the know, that's problably not an issue.
14:51:07 <sgp[m]> <plowsof> "ive not had confirmation yet but..." <- Yeah, which Cake also pays for :p
14:51:29 <sgp[m]> But Core controls. We just reimburse / prepay
14:51:44 <rbrunner> I just mulling over whether to start a brand-new room, or rely on yet another one of those overly complex Matrix functions, rooms having multiple names / addresses / whatever
14:52:04 <selsta> rbrunner: I'm not in the know :D I just accepted the bridge
14:52:10 <rbrunner> The content of the old room is not that valuable, after all
14:52:16 <plowsof> 280 eur a month cake pays for it i think 
14:52:50 <sgp[m]> rbrunner: I can handle the whole setup if you want. We can do it now if you don't need the old room, or later when our infra team is back from vacation if you need the old room
14:53:18 <rbrunner> Oh, my conversation with ErCiccione with the details of the bridge was on the nuked server :)
14:53:37 <sgp[m]> But you'll want to make a Matrix account on monero.social so I can make it admin
14:53:55 <rbrunner> If I can technically handle myself, I would gladly do it myself.
14:54:32 <rbrunner> Temporary admin, until set up, and then merely leave me admin of that single room, would probably make sense, right?
14:54:32 <sgp[m]> Okay. Ping me if you need help then, or wait till Mon for our team to get back from vacation
14:55:02 <sgp[m]> Usually it's good to have another admin but doesn't need to be me obviously
14:55:16 <sgp[m]> Bus factor and all
14:56:08 <rbrunner> Not sure I understand, but I can create a user in the next half hour or so on monero.social, and then you can do the magic so that I can create a new room there?
14:56:58 <plowsof> xmrscott told me how to do it yesterday so i must pass on the knowledge of bridging matrix to irc ? 
14:57:35 <rbrunner> We will see. One step after the other :)
14:58:05 <rbrunner> I need some snacks after all this drama. Back in half an hour.
14:58:05 <ofrnxmr[m]> 1. You create a new user... (full message at <https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/libera.chat/b5ee2752a8696b33280464927bb79c788424dad4>)
14:58:23 <ofrnxmr[m]> Thats a lunch break! C ya soon
14:59:04 <sgp[m]> Guys this is easy :) I'll set up the room and make you admin rbrunner: once you have another account
15:00:13 <Siren[m]> <plowsof> "ive not had confirmation yet but..." <- It's probably more like 40 euros a month max
15:01:22 <ofrnxmr[m]> "Cake Wallet sponsors the "tools" server with the mailing list, GitLab, Matrix, Taiga, and Weblate."
15:01:31 <MajesticBank> matrix shouldn't need more then 1 server
15:01:43 <plowsof> the 2k~usd number is the "all the things" that Core pay for with the general fund and the above^ is 280/eur
15:01:45 <MajesticBank> monero hosting is like 2k/month, that's way more advanced
15:02:02 <plowsof> true
15:02:23 <Stnby[m]> Damn, thats a lot of money, is there a breakdown?
15:02:51 <MajesticBank> since the last binaries issue I guess, there is a lot of "guardians" and "watchdogs"
15:03:14 <MajesticBank> there is a description of monero hosting on github
15:03:24 <MajesticBank> pretty advanced stuff
15:04:05 <plowsof> majesticbank sponsor with hosting costs of 2kusd/month , cake pay 280eur a month to clarify 
15:04:08 <plowsof> XD
15:04:35 <MajesticBank> we all supporting, that's important
15:05:39 <monerobull[m]> I'm thankful for all sponsors 🙏
15:06:02 <Stnby[m]> MajesticBank: I could not find it
15:06:19 <ofrnxmr[m]> Cake also supports monero by making Diego force monerujo back into development 🐒🐒🙊
15:07:04 <ofrnxmr[m]> #letscompete
15:07:07 <ofrnxmr[m]> monerobull[m]: Seriously.
15:07:10 <ofrnxmr[m]> And donators. And devs.
15:07:49 <plowsof> i appreciate every piconero here https://nitter.it/watchfund
15:08:13 <ofrnxmr[m]> (Donators to ccs)
15:08:38 <MajesticBank> we need somehow that get money into general fund each month
15:08:58 <plowsof> totals?
15:09:34 <ofrnxmr[m]> Id appreciate it more if community was involved in GF
15:10:12 <MajesticBank> trough some business, so as biz grows monero GF gets more money
15:10:24 <sgp[m]> rbrunner: I set up #no-wallet-left-behind:monero.social, which I can make you admin of
15:10:27 <Stnby[m]> I am still surprised how the hosting could cost 2k a month, especially when you can get a dedicated Threadripper server with 128 GB of RAM for 150Eur/mon
15:10:56 <Stnby[m]> * for 150Eur/mon, sure all 3 to make a proxmox cluster, still 450
15:10:59 <Stnby[m]> * for 150Eur/mon, sure all 3 to make a proxmox cluster, still 450 max
15:11:07 <alpharabius[m]> ofrnxmr[m]: Grand Fund right?
15:11:21 <Stnby[m]> * for 150Eur/mon, sure all 3 to make a Proxmox cluster, still 450 max
15:11:33 <Siren[m]> Stnby[m]: It's hosted on Hetzner too so there's no privacy tax lol
15:11:56 <plowsof> Haveno is meant to help us with that (a supply of donations)
15:12:02 <ofrnxmr[m]> General fund
15:12:24 <alpharabius[m]> ofrnxmr[m]: I get them confused
15:12:41 <Mochi101> Hetzner is killing all crypto related stuff.
15:13:13 <Siren[m]> No they're not? It's only mining
15:13:20 <ofrnxmr[m]> plowsof: Depends who you ask and when
15:13:21 <plowsof> nodes too 
15:13:31 <sgp[m]> yeah they're killing nodes too
15:13:33 <Mochi101> Siren[m], nodes too
15:13:41 <Stnby[m]> Nodes can be hosted elsewhere
15:13:52 <Siren[m]> That's not everything crypto related
15:13:58 <Mochi101> ok
15:13:59 <Stnby[m]> Although they won't be able to detect a node if its SSL
15:14:22 <MajesticBank> evil people will report probably 
15:14:28 <MajesticBank> if public node
15:14:56 <Stnby[m]> put it behind a proxy :D
15:14:57 <MajesticBank> still would stay away from company with hate to crypto, there is so many alternatives
15:15:46 <Stnby[m]> curl -k https://178.63.96.7/users/monero-project/projects -H Host:repo.getmonero.org
15:15:46 <Stnby[m]> Our Gitlab for example is hosted on Hetzner
15:16:01 <Stnby[m]> "Behind CloudFlare" 😉
15:16:22 <Stnby[m]>  * `curl -k https://178.63.96.7/users/monero-project/projects -H Host:repo.getmonero.org`
15:16:22 <Stnby[m]> Our Gitlab for example is hosted on Hetzner
15:20:35 <Stnby[m]> Not too sure why cloudflare proxy was enabled for gitlab if firewall is not configured
15:22:29 <Siren[m]> The reverse proxy config is also funky here https://ccs.getmonero.org/proposals
15:23:22 <Stnby[m]> There also is this grandma of a server lists.getmonero.org with End of Life distro. If no one has time to maintain these, we can help. It's just that no one is asking for help :d
15:23:23 <Stnby[m]> s/d/D/
15:25:10 <nioc> fluffypony: help is being offered ^^
15:27:32 <plowsof> yeah theres an open issue about the proposals link adding "proposals/" fixes it 🤷
15:28:10 <Stnby[m]> plowsof: port_in_redirect off;
15:28:13 <Stnby[m]> volia
15:28:43 <Siren[m]> better yet, stop using nginx and get caddy
15:29:04 <Stnby[m]> HTTP3 much wow
15:33:47 <fluffypony> Stnby[m]: hosting costs a lot because of bandwidth
15:33:55 <fluffypony> the server isn't particularly highly specced
15:34:06 <fluffypony> but it's on a 10gbps unmetered
15:34:33 <fluffypony> and it's 1 hop from London, in a jurisdiction that is fairly safe from a data protection / liberal laws perspective
15:34:42 <uncle_rae> fluffypony: are there any hardware wallets that you'd recommend?
15:34:49 <fluffypony> uncle_rae: Ledger and Trezor are fine
15:34:57 <uncle_rae> any preference between the two
15:35:00 <uncle_rae> ?
15:35:06 <ofrnxmr[m]> Google
15:35:15 * uncle_rae slaps ofrnxmr[m]
15:35:33 <ofrnxmr[m]> Ofrnxmr dodges and giggles
15:35:41 <Stnby[m]> fluffypony: Is it a single server?
15:36:17 * Siren[m] uploaded an image: (94KiB) < https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/kernal.eu/XZUhwparnPOuNjfDOALGQtos/image.png >
15:36:21 <Siren[m]> nice certificates
15:36:48 * Siren[m] uploaded an image: (34KiB) < https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/kernal.eu/tLUoLxiFpMZSFoxUIvfxHImV/image.png >
15:36:54 <BigmenPixel[m]> Does anybody use the yggdrasil network?
15:37:06 <BigmenPixel[m]> BigmenPixel[m]: Is there a monero node?
15:37:33 <Stnby[m]> fluffypony: Could load balance smaller net ones, I also think 10 Gbps is overkill we can shave all of that bandwidth down by fixing cache-control headers
15:37:39 <Stnby[m]> * cache-control headers.
15:39:04 <u221f> i guess servicing monero binaries needs bandwidth
15:40:30 <MajesticBank> i once tried serving signed monero binaries for monero, whole antivirus community crashed on us with reports
15:40:36 <MajesticBank> it's good we have getmonero.org
15:41:05 <Stnby[m]> u221f: Seems like they use some cdn for downloads, so no
15:41:08 * Stnby[m] sent a code block: https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/libera.chat/667ab8fac727ccb04ff5f5d90f39dd973dd02f42
15:41:26 <u221f> Stnby[m]: ok, so just the website then
15:41:56 <Stnby[m]> Yeah 10 Gbps is insane tho, no one close to 10Gbps visists getmonero.org
15:42:23 <Stnby[m]> + its a static site and CF sits on top of it
15:42:33 <Stnby[m]> 100 Mbps is max you need honestly
15:42:54 <Stnby[m]> Cache control is far more important than bandwidth in this case
15:42:56 <u221f> despite cloudflare you may need a beefy connection
15:43:27 <Stnby[m]> u221f: You do, thats the field I work in.
15:44:12 <u221f> imho monero is too important project to discuss downgrading its main web server :)
15:44:43 <Stnby[m]> Not downgrading, could speed it up by a lot and cut a lot of costs
15:45:00 <Stnby[m]> * of costs, which can be spent elsewhere gitlab or other stuff
15:45:04 <Stnby[m]> * of costs, which can be spent elsewhere gitlab, matrix or other stuff
15:45:30 <u221f> (i'm all for optimizing the httpd etc.)
15:46:14 <Stnby[m]> Varnish cache + caddy + proper cache-control headers (cache busting) + Cloudflare
15:46:37 <Stnby[m]> 10 Gbps server is waste of resources 
15:47:19 <sgp[m]> rbrunner: can you please confirm that rbrunner7:monero.social is you?
15:47:25 <Stnby[m]> Online banks use less bandwidth, Ive worked for one :D
15:47:26 <Siren[m]> u221f: it looks like it's Microsoft Personal Webserver. Is this header a joke? `PWS/8.3.1.0.8`
15:47:50 <Siren[m]> If not, it cannot be downgraded more. It's already rock bottom.
15:47:57 <u221f> Siren[m]: possibly x)
15:48:09 <Siren[m]> The worst web server you could ever use
15:48:13 <Stnby[m]> Siren[m]: No comments...
15:48:26 <rbrunner> Yes, rbrunner7 is me, and forget about that 8 user, that's the wrong one to configure for this
15:48:59 <rbrunner> Both at monero.social
15:56:14 * Stnby[m] sent a code block: https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/libera.chat/02cefe2435d37764e3bb9831653e3226de01240a
15:56:26 <Stnby[m]> Whats this? is this website hosted by Chineese?
15:56:34 <Stnby[m]> s/Chineese/Chinese/
15:57:41 <Siren[m]> It looks www.getmonero.org was hacked by chinese who used it to host random crap. Look at the SSL certificates here: https://www.getmonero.org:9101/
15:58:19 <selsta> wasn't there a specific CDN for China?
15:58:21 <ofrnxmr[m]> #monero-site:haveno.network repost?
15:58:56 <Siren[m]> ofrnxmr[m]: can't join
16:00:32 <Siren[m]> www.getmonero.org is horribly misconfigured you have so many ports open with these expired certs
16:01:33 <Stnby[m]> I think its some Chinese Microsoft server 2000 hosting provider, that getmonero.org uses
16:02:23 <nioc> selsta: I think so
16:03:25 <Siren[m]> * It looks like www.getmonero.org was
16:08:46 <alpharabius[m]> <Siren[m]> "www.getmonero.org is horribly..." <- They don't have ufw? Or maintainers?
16:09:32 <Siren[m]> alpharabius[m]: they're using some unknown chinese WAF 
16:10:03 <Siren[m]> looks like shared hosting tbh that's why so many ports are open 
16:10:32 <alpharabius[m]> But vpses are so cheap
16:10:48 <alpharabius[m]> I bought one for a year for like 12 bucks
16:11:01 <Stnby[m]> getmonero.org is behind Cloudflare
16:11:01 <Stnby[m]> www.getmonero.org is behind something weird
16:11:17 <Stnby[m]> Thats not how you are supposed to do it
16:11:53 <Siren[m]> Siren[m]: `echo "topkek" | nc www.getmonero.org 9103`
16:12:06 <plowsof> i remember when the getmonero certs expired,  the "www" was working but the other not.. or vice versa 
16:12:47 <Stnby[m]> vise versa
16:12:53 <Stnby[m]>  * vice versa
16:13:07 <Stnby[m]> This is such ghetto of a setup
16:13:27 <Siren[m]> >chinese shared hosting
16:13:33 <alpharabius[m]> Ikr
16:13:34 <u221f> lol
16:13:36 <alpharabius[m]> Like get me on the team 
16:13:38 <Stnby[m]> I will spend some weekend modifying the jekyll conf
16:13:54 <Stnby[m]> * jekyll conf to get it ready for cache busting
16:13:59 <u221f> Its all cloudflare and obscure configurations (like PWS/8.3.1.0.8)
16:14:08 <ofrnxmr[m]> binaryFate @binaryFate:libera.chat: fluffypony: 
16:14:23 <alpharabius[m]> Tor solos cloudflare
16:14:42 <Stnby[m]> No one cares about Tor, there is a dedicated onion service
16:15:08 <Siren[m]> y'all never explained how malicious binaries found their way into downloads.getmonero.org either 😭
16:15:35 <Stnby[m]> Maybe do some housekeeping on the main site
16:15:47 <Stnby[m]> Can literally download random php files
16:15:47 <Stnby[m]> https://www.getmonero.org/language.php
16:16:12 <alpharabius[m]> Siren[m]: 💀💀💀
16:16:21 <alpharabius[m]> Who is managing this site
16:16:29 <Stnby[m]> Siren[m]: Oh yes lmao
16:16:52 <alpharabius[m]> I literally cannot ever get caught lacking like this
16:17:07 <ofrnxmr[m]> Didnt you get raided by the feds 
16:17:25 <alpharabius[m]> Whoa that was a different situation
16:17:36 <ofrnxmr[m]> 😆
16:17:36 <plowsof> twice
16:17:37 <alpharabius[m]> It was shitposting going too far
16:17:39 <Stnby[m]> Smurfs raided you and placed a malicious exe
16:17:55 <ofrnxmr[m]> Raided and has his own computer bugged physically now
16:18:22 <alpharabius[m]> Not my own
16:18:23 <alpharabius[m]> My mom's
16:18:41 <Siren[m]> good opsec to live at mom's basement
16:19:06 <alpharabius[m]> alpharabius[m]: Now all they gon see is someone looking at microsoft word for like hours
16:19:06 <ofrnxmr[m]> "It wasnt me. It was my mom. I swear. Lock her ass up and throw away the key"
16:19:10 <Stnby[m]> Should have used LUKS, kiddo.
16:19:29 <alpharabius[m]> Stnby[m]: I used LUKS lol, even on my vms
16:19:46 <sgp[m]> The new Matrix room for the No Wallet Left Behind project is #no-wallet-left-behind:monero.social . It is also bridged to the Libera channel of the same name
16:20:31 <Stnby[m]> Once I got ready for my first flight, encrypted the drive... After arrival I had such a long uptime on my laptop that I forgot my LUKS pass. 
16:21:42 <Stnby[m]> Couldn't reboot until I cracked my own pass. At least I remebered chunks of it
16:21:48 <Stnby[m]> * of it.
16:22:49 <RavFX[m]1> LUKS everywhere, just don't forget passphrases
16:22:49 <RavFX[m]1> You can salt it with some TPM data too so the correct passphrase won't work except if the hardware is the same exact authorized hardware
16:23:12 <alpharabius[m]> My rooms probably bugged tho, and i joined IT club at school(the guy who runs it is an ex-NSA agent)
16:23:24 <alpharabius[m]> As i just learned
16:23:40 <alpharabius[m]> alpharabius[m]: So now i'm switching to baking club
16:23:52 <RavFX[m]1> Can patch cryptsetup to add self destruct key
16:23:52 <RavFX[m]1> and put it on a sticker under the desk
16:24:17 <Siren[m]> alpharabius[m]: Cooking some space brownies now 
16:24:36 <Stnby[m]> > <@gfdshygti53:monero.social> Can patch cryptsetup to add self destruct key
16:24:36 <Stnby[m]> > and put it on a sticker under the desk
16:24:36 <Stnby[m]> you can do all sorts of things in initramfs
16:25:03 <Stnby[m]> display feet sucking ascii art before confronting NSA and wiping the partition
16:25:34 <Stnby[m]> Although they probably pull the drive out before booting into it
16:25:38 <Stnby[m]> and make a hard copy
16:26:05 <alpharabius[m]> Stnby[m]: I'mma display a monero emblem or smth
16:27:01 <alpharabius[m]> Anyways i gotta do something, i'mma head out, dm me if yall want me to do anything
16:27:12 <Stnby[m]> They create an image of it, not too sure how they do that on soldered on SSDs, but they do. Its in their script
16:27:12 <RavFX[m]1> They might want to know where are you're monero
16:27:12 <ofrnxmr[m]> sgp: 
16:27:12 <RavFX[m]1> and might try to get the key (using a 2$ wrench)
16:27:12 <monero666[m]> Stnby hello
16:27:25 <Stnby[m]> monero666[m]: Hi
16:27:25 <Siren[m]> yEs hEllo
16:27:38 <monero666[m]> Where are you from stnby
16:27:38 <alpharabius[m]> Stnby[m]: It's the 25 words spammer
16:27:38 <Siren[m]> monero666 sir
16:27:48 <Stnby[m]> Mongolia]
16:27:50 <Stnby[m]>  * Mongolia\
16:27:51 <Stnby[m]>  * Mongolia
16:27:51 <RavFX[m]1> Yeah, normal forensics is to create image of drives.
16:27:52 <RavFX[m]1> Won't work with soldered SSD like Apple, but in that case they have other backdoor (specifically for apple, they can get all the data without even seizing the device)
16:27:54 <ofrnxmr[m]> monero666:  you missed it
16:27:57 <monero666[m]> Wowww
16:28:07 <ofrnxmr[m]> We were just going through a list of ips and expired certs 
16:28:11 <alpharabius[m]> The 25 words strikes again
16:28:17 <ofrnxmr[m]> 👀
16:28:25 <monero666[m]> Hey stanby. I did screenshoot your profil picture
16:28:38 <Siren[m]> Why
16:28:48 <Stnby[m]> monero666[m]: Now make it into NFT
16:28:52 <monero666[m]> Stnby is right
16:28:56 <alpharabius[m]> Siren[m]: Identity theft i assume
16:29:06 <ofrnxmr[m]> Haha
16:29:07 <monero666[m]> Turkish is left on picture
16:29:17 <ofrnxmr[m]> Monero666 couldnt steal water from a lake 
16:29:18 <Stnby[m]> We all are Turks
16:29:24 <alpharabius[m]> True
16:29:25 <Siren[m]> alpharabius[m]: monero666 is a celebrity himself
16:29:29 <ofrnxmr[m]> Stnby[m]: Especially me
16:29:34 <monero666[m]> I like picture
16:29:43 <ofrnxmr[m]> Do you like me?
16:29:46 <Siren[m]> Kimsin lan sen :DDD
16:29:48 <ofrnxmr[m]> Sir?
16:29:57 <Stnby[m]> monero666[m]: I like yours as well
16:30:09 <Stnby[m]> * as well. Mhmmm Blueeee/
16:30:10 <Stnby[m]> * as well. Mhmmm Blueeee.
16:30:52 <alpharabius[m]> Someone's gonna summon the banhammer like they're thor lol
16:31:04 <ofrnxmr[m]> Why u wanna bully stnby :( when im right here 
16:31:06 <monero666[m]> Siren[m]: What
16:31:15 <ofrnxmr[m]> Its Mongolian 
16:31:20 <ofrnxmr[m]> Use translator 
16:31:33 <RavFX[m]1> I wonder how much Stnby picture NFT can see, like 0.0001 ETH or something? Is ever worth the fees? not that most NFT projects are like -99.xx% already
16:31:33 <Siren[m]> ofrnxmr[m]: Mashallah
16:31:39 <RavFX[m]1> s/see/sell/
16:31:49 <alpharabius[m]> Anyways i'm boutta head out fr now
16:32:06 <Stnby[m]> RavFX[m]1: I am with the Ankara star, worth a lot more
16:32:18 <Stnby[m]> Has ottoman flag as well
16:32:23 <Stnby[m]> extra value
16:32:36 <RavFX[m]1> But it's just pixel with colorz
16:32:54 <RavFX[m]1> And you can screenshot it anyway, as I did
16:33:00 <monero666[m]> Stnby[m]: You like from european or north america or australia or new zeland
16:33:08 <Stnby[m]> monero666[m]: Mongolia
16:34:13 <monero666[m]> Wow
16:34:13 <Stnby[m]> I was deported there by ottomans
16:34:25 <nioc> maybe bridging rooms was a mistake, this channel used to be for serious discussion  
16:35:07 <Stnby[m]> the 666 started it, I think it will end very soon
16:36:27 <monero666[m]> The monero group started the  kidding
16:37:44 <ofrnxmr[m]> I think sooner or later we all just put him on ignore 
16:38:02 <ofrnxmr[m]> So he talks to himself for s few days before realizing 🥹
16:38:32 <ofrnxmr[m]> But I dont mind forcing him to make 30 sccounts a day 
16:38:43 <Stnby[m]> monero666[m]: I am still confused. Where did you buy your ledger?
16:38:51 <ofrnxmr[m]> Its harder to make accounts than it is to ban 🥹
16:39:02 <ofrnxmr[m]> HE DOESNT HAVE ONE
16:39:31 <Stnby[m]> The how did he get 25 words?
16:40:04 <monero666[m]> Stnby[m]: Where is your profil picture
16:40:27 <Stnby[m]> monero666[m]: Ankara, next to the castle
16:41:21 <monero666[m]> Stnby[m]: bro seriously, where are you from?  I promise I will tell
16:41:25 <ofrnxmr[m]> Stnby[m]: Find outs all this and more, on the next exciting episode of dont make me take my belt off
16:41:50 <ofrnxmr[m]> Guy probably only owns eth
16:41:55 <plowsof> nioc the matrix #monero has been used as the landing point for everyone/anyone on the internet / off-topic -community for a long time. i guess we should start pushing the actual #monero-offtopic:monero.social . its not uncommon for people to ask "what blockchain is monero on" "can i stake monero" in this room 
16:43:13 <Stnby[m]> Didn't know we had 3 different rooms of different seriousness
16:43:14 <Stnby[m]> 1. Dev chat (very serious)
16:43:14 <Stnby[m]> 2. This one (this one)
16:43:14 <Stnby[m]> 3. Off topic (ledger)
16:43:23 <Siren[m]> monero666[m]: #monero-offtopic:monero.social gel yarram
16:43:50 <plowsof> MRL - super serious (i dont have emoji rights)
16:44:26 <ofrnxmr[m]> We have multiple 
16:44:42 <spackle_xmr[m]> <Siren[m]> "y'all never explained how..." <- I hadn't heard of that, is this what you are referring to? https://web.getmonero.org/2019/11/19/warning-compromised-binaries.html
16:44:49 <ofrnxmr[m]> Community for work/groups, community dev for non core dev, markets for price tall
16:45:01 <ofrnxmr[m]> ^^ yes
16:45:25 <monero666[m]> Siren[m]: What. 
16:46:28 <nioc> plowsof: yes it is the #1 room because of the name, people first come here.  I used to answer the simple questions but the room became quiet sometime after the move to libera and the matrix room starting.   I was looking forward to helping and instead I find this  o_0
16:46:38 <monero666[m]> Siren[m]: What do you mean
16:46:39 <monero666[m]> monero666[m]: What do u mean
16:47:58 <Stnby[m]> nioc: After you bridge it to Telegram you will not want to start the wpa_supplicant
16:48:08 <Stnby[m]> s/wpa_supplicant/wpa\_supplicant/
16:48:22 <nioc> please no  lol
16:48:24 <monero666[m]> stnby, i'm the person next to you in the your profile photo
16:48:42 <Siren[m]> monero666[m]: Karaboğa
16:48:55 <Stnby[m]> monero666[m]: Nice to meet you
16:49:21 <rbrunner> Having fun on a slow Black Friday, do we?
16:49:27 <ofrnxmr[m]> monero666:  dont play with fire 🥹
16:49:29 <monero666[m]> Stnby[m]: Which you know languages
16:49:49 <Stnby[m]> monero666[m]: C, Golang, HTML
16:50:00 <rbrunner> 6502 assembler.
16:50:02 <ofrnxmr[m]> Rbunner, its been black Friday week for this clown
16:50:04 <Rucknium[m]> nioc: I thought about warning you about bridging. But then I would sound like a snob.
16:50:12 <monero666[m]> ofrnxmr[m]: why did you say so
16:50:41 <ofrnxmr[m]> Because this is monero 
16:50:43 <monero666[m]> Stnby[m]: No. Country languages
16:50:57 <nioc> Rucknium[m]: wonder how mooo feels now  :(
16:51:08 <monero666[m]> ofrnxmr[m]: What do you mean?
16:51:18 <ofrnxmr[m]> You never know who's watching. Actually, you can ve pretty confident that the feds are watching.
16:51:21 <rbrunner> LDA #$FF
16:52:11 <monero666[m]> ofrnxmr[m]: I'm not doing anything bad.
16:52:17 <nioc> so you are saying that the problem is matrix?  :D
16:52:32 <Stnby[m]> monero666[m]: England English, Lithuanian, Konyaca and few other ones a little bit, but thats about it
16:54:10 <monero666[m]> Stnby[m]: How old are you
16:54:42 <Siren[m]> Nice try fed
16:54:42 <Stnby[m]> monero666[m]: 23, next question.
16:54:56 <monero666[m]> Stnby[m]: I am 40
16:55:15 <spacekitty420[m]> am 420 and still 9 lives left o.o
16:55:17 <spacekitty420[m]> mlem
16:56:02 <monero666[m]> I am not bad human
16:56:05 <ofrnxmr[m]> Im 13
16:56:18 <monero666[m]> I am 4000
16:56:18 <ofrnxmr[m]> Just your type
16:56:23 <spacekitty420[m]> u still a weirdo that needs his balls cut off
16:56:34 <nioc> Rucknium[m]: not even plowsof warned me
16:57:08 <Stnby[m]> Some admin will join and kick all of us
16:57:10 <ofrnxmr[m]> Its not ususs'ly like this
16:57:13 <ofrnxmr[m]> Lol. Irc was way more active than monero matrix
16:57:18 <monero666[m]> spacekitty420[m]: cut off your balls
16:57:34 <spacekitty420[m]> i dont have any tho :hyperthonk:
16:57:55 <ofrnxmr[m]> This is just a troll filling in what is usually quiet 
16:58:01 <ofrnxmr[m]> Stnby[m]: That fixes everything 💣
16:58:21 <monero666[m]> I am not troll
16:58:51 <plowsof> sgp pls help us , monero666 is mean , pls ban 
16:59:17 <spacekitty420[m]> spacekitty420[m]: nvm i lied, am just gon cut off my eyeballs cause even eyebleach wont do it after reading this chat.....
16:59:23 <ofrnxmr[m]> sgp: please give plowsof a hammer
16:59:31 <monero666[m]> Synby, you are good profil picture
17:00:11 <plowsof> this is a coordinated effort by plowsof and his puppets to give him global moderator power so we must not act so quick with handing out such privileges 
17:00:36 <ofrnxmr[m]> Im not a sockpuppet, aint nobody has their hand up my ass!. Im an alt.
17:00:40 <spacekitty420[m]> plowsof: did u meant to send that from your alt ofrnxmr ?
17:00:48 <fluffypony> Stnby[m]: nope, cache-control headers and the CDN doesn't solve it
17:01:03 <fluffypony> trust me, we've experimented with tons of options
17:01:07 <Stnby[m]> fluffypony: Does
17:01:40 <fluffypony> we've been doing this since 2014, even in the absence of blockchain.raw requests we still routinely hit 5-7gbps cumulatively under load
17:01:50 <fluffypony> and that's for cache-misses on the CDN
17:02:06 <Stnby[m]> Make it a cache hit
17:02:14 <monero666[m]> Stnby, what are your job
17:02:26 <Stnby[m]> Computer Doctor
17:02:42 <monero666[m]> I'm bored I want to talk
17:02:58 <Stnby[m]> fluffypony: I know for a fact we can fix it
17:03:07 <ofrnxmr[m]> Mcdonalds
17:03:18 <alpharabius[m]> Do u guys think tay k used bitcoin or xmr
17:03:18 <ofrnxmr[m]> Oh, you asking stnby
17:03:27 <ofrnxmr[m]> #monero-offtopic:monero.social if youre bored
17:03:33 <Siren[m]> ofrnxmr[m]: hello fellow crypto bro
17:03:44 <ofrnxmr[m]> We wont ban you as fast there 
17:03:58 <fluffypony> Stnby[m]: it's a pull CDN not a push, because we needed one with tons of POPs in China so that we don't have GFW restrictions affecting us
17:04:05 <Stnby[m]> ofrnxmr[m]: All the mods asleep anyway
17:04:14 <fluffypony> so the CDN lives on a different subdomain than the source
17:04:37 <fluffypony> also the server was sponsored until recently, the CDN is still sponsored by Tari Labs
17:05:05 <fluffypony> so I don't really think this is a problem that needs tackling, we have other things that are more important imho
17:05:29 <monero666[m]> Your favorite hardware wallet brand
17:05:45 <spacekitty420[m]> paper
17:05:45 <alpharabius[m]> 💀
17:05:47 <Stnby[m]> fluffypony: Which subdomain?
17:05:50 <alpharabius[m]> monero666[m]: Skill issue
17:06:16 <Stnby[m]> Everything seems to live on www.getmonero.org which has a CNAME to some shady shared hosting thingy
17:06:29 <Stnby[m]> * Everything (except downloads) seems to
17:06:58 <monero666[m]> stanby, you seem like a nice person. O am seriously
17:07:06 <monero666[m]> s/O/I/
17:07:08 <selsta> web.getmonero.org is the source, www.getmonero.org the CDN
17:07:17 <fluffypony> ^^
17:07:31 <Stnby[m]> monero666[m]: Damn, ping me in offtopic (Ill respond if Im in the mood)
17:07:44 <fluffypony> also downloads is the CDN, dlsrc is the source
17:08:41 <Stnby[m]> So what does this CDN do pull from web.getmonero.org, cache and serve it on www.getmonero.org?
17:09:04 <Siren[m]> what does ladieslovethis.com have to do with mail.getmonero.org?
17:09:10 <monero666[m]> Stnby[m]: Sir stnby, do you have instagram account. If u have instagram give me username.
17:09:11 <monero666[m]> I add you
17:09:13 <monero666[m]> In instagram
17:09:18 <Stnby[m]> monero666[m]: I don't
17:09:39 <monero666[m]> I add you for friend in instagram
17:09:44 <Stnby[m]> Piss off
17:09:53 <Siren[m]>  * what does ladieslovethis.com have to do with mail.getmonero.org?
17:09:53 <Siren[m]> https://crt.sh/?q=getmonero.org
17:09:55 <ofrnxmr[m]> xmrscott @xmrscott:monero.social: 
17:10:20 <monero666[m]> Stnby[m]: Okey dont give
17:10:26 <monero666[m]> I like u
17:10:39 <Mochi101> wow! as lively as -pools in here today. :)
17:10:51 <Stnby[m]> monero666[m]: Like you too, just enough of you
17:10:56 <Stnby[m]> * of you for today
17:12:09 <monero666[m]> What is your Favorite country?
17:12:36 <Stnby[m]> Transnistria
17:12:59 <Stnby[m]>  * Transnistria, North Korea right after 
17:13:02 <monero666[m]> North korea
17:13:23 <monero666[m]> North korea is free country and good leader
17:13:36 <Stnby[m]> monero666[m]: I like it because if you were from there, you would not be spamming me right now
17:15:59 <sgp[m]> <ofrnxmr[m]> "sgp: please give plowsof a..." <- Getting confirmation from other ppl but I support this
17:22:47 <fluffypony> Siren[m]: probably some old reverse-CDN request
17:22:54 <fluffypony> *reverse-DNS
17:23:47 <fluffypony> we had a lot of shared server stuff in 2014
17:24:14 <fluffypony> not sure why LE is picking it up when the domain doesn't even exist anymore
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17:27:07 <Stnby[m]> This is sketchy
17:28:12 <Stnby[m]> But we certainly need to set proper cache-control headers, like include immutable where needed
17:28:18 <Stnby[m]> * like include `immutable, * immutable` where
18:01:57 <dANBs[m]> Dev[xmpp]: Hi
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18:05:06 <Stnby[m]> Sexy, If I was a country I also would attract hosting to my country by banning everything hosted outside Chinese providers.
18:05:06 <commandblock2[m]> 4399, the most popular minigame website in China mainlan
18:05:16 <Stnby[m]>  * Sexy, If I was a country I also would attract hosting to my country by banning everything hosted outside my countries providers.
19:12:08 <alpharabius[m]> Guys wouldn't it be insane if i got my first cert at 14
19:13:35 <RavFX[m]1> Considering we have let's encrypt now, not really.
19:13:35 <RavFX[m]1> Back when I was 14, certs where real expensive and most of the Internet was only http
19:14:34 <alpharabius[m]> > <@gfdshygti53:monero.social> Considering we have let's encrypt now, not really.
19:14:34 <alpharabius[m]> > Back when I was 14, certs where real expensive and most of the Internet was only http
19:14:34 <alpharabius[m]> Not that kinda cert, i already have that
19:15:23 <alpharabius[m]> I mean like a programming cert like security+
20:43:57 <Stnby[m]> <alpharabius[m]> "I mean like a programming cert..." <- LinlkedIn C# cert?
20:44:02 <Stnby[m]> > <@alpharabius:matrix.org> I mean like a programming cert like security+
20:44:03 <Stnby[m]>  * LinkedIn C# cert?
20:44:12 <Stnby[m]>  * LinkedIn C# cert or Windows server cert?
20:44:22 <Stnby[m]>  * LinkedIn C# cert or Windows server security cert?
20:51:43 <natewrench> with the whole regulation of crypto underway by proof of reserves, will monero become the de facto standard?
20:59:39 <Siren[m]> <alpharabius[m]> "I mean like a programming cert..." <- Comptia is fine