00:25:23 <c0mmando[m]> <spacekitty420[m]> "i remember someone saying that..." <- dumb not to use Tor imo. sync speed isn't THAT bad
00:26:07 <spacekitty420[m]> wasnt regarding sync speed
00:34:31 <mawk> apotheon: in France, wielding a fake/blank gun to defend against an home invader is punished the same as if you wielded a gun in the street out on the open
00:34:42 <mawk> so shooting an home invader is absolutely out of the question
00:35:18 <mawk> if you must defend yourself and not go to jail, it must be a split second decision while your life is currently being threatened, and with a proportioned weapon
00:35:51 <spacekitty420[m]> <spacekitty420[m]> "french ppl... errrrrr....." <- weirdos....
00:36:19 <mawk> I'm only 1/3 french
00:39:10 <Torr> mawk: Who passed such law?
00:39:28 <mawk> the occupation regime
00:39:30 <mawk> during WW2
00:39:51 <mawk> by monsieur le maréchal Pétain
00:40:11 <mawk> to prevent any resistance I presume
00:42:50 <mawk> https://github.com/brouberol/marcel
00:42:56 <Torr> What a mess
00:43:07 <Torr> I mean the law.
00:43:16 <mawk> yeah
00:47:16 <plowsof> syncing over tor -> saying mean things about the french -> ww2 
00:49:09 <spacekitty420[m]> macron was selected and put in place by the globalists to further their agenda, fuck 'em
00:52:37 <spacekitty420[m]> aint a russian shill but if all of nato were to be burned to the ground, probably would be pretty happey ngl, burn them all 🔥 o.o
00:52:54 <plowsof> #monero-offtopic:monero.social topic: Croissants. O'naturel? Cheese and ham inside? lets get to the bottom of this 
00:53:16 <spacekitty420[m]> plowsof: u offtopic shill
00:53:22 <nioc> there's an off topic channel?
00:53:27 <spacekitty420[m]> nop
00:53:28 <nioc> wow didn't know 
00:54:17 <spacekitty420[m]> cause there isnt
00:55:56 <spacekitty420[m]> plowsof: baguette
00:57:25 <spacekitty420[m]> plowsof: u eating ze frogs and snailz?
01:03:17 <spacekitty420[m]> mod privileges to plowsof was a mistake, just sayin o.o
01:04:16 <spacekitty420[m]> plowsof: what even is the point of deleting messages while they're still on irc side anyways? u just stoopid
01:04:52 <plowsof> indeed, a temp ban would be appropriate 
01:05:28 <spacekitty420[m]> right, temp ban of plowsof for being a little bitch about "offtopic" while it literally been offtopic all day long
01:05:36 <spacekitty420[m]> fuck u plowsof 
01:09:20 <ofrnxmr[m]> Hahaha
01:09:32 <ofrnxmr[m]> Plowsof, can you ban yourself?
01:10:31 <spacekitty420[m]> i just banned myself from offtopic, perm ban so sure
01:11:09 <ofrnxmr[m]> I hope not cuz of me 🙊
01:12:43 <yeji-weji[m]> spacekitty420: can i send you a xmr reparation?
01:13:58 <spacekitty420[m]> no necessary but here's address, just cuz is cute address but dont send, is oki lol:
01:13:58 <spacekitty420[m]> 42oK1ttyF1nMK5T8u8RXmabV3wu48jrKh17k8XHANnwzLjoY5EsriXJNPLWDbQTNGUbUJETcJYxXT7uVqNtJs12sTqdwzCd
01:16:26 <yeji-weji[m]> sent
01:17:01 <spacekitty420[m]> dang LOL, said not to send, am not even synced up either... well, thanks... <3
01:21:49 <plowsof> I have reviewed todays logs on libera - and user spacekitty420 is correct, mawk / apotheon / yeji-weji among others where talking off topic the entire morning. user ofrnxmr has posted the #monero-offtopic:monero.social room several times to no avail. I have decided to enforce a rule, at the end of the day on the 'last person who was off topic' - this is unfair, and i must now publicly apologise. I am sorry user spacekitty420
01:22:18 <spacekitty420[m]> awwww <3
01:22:33 <spacekitty420[m]> apologizes accepted and sowry being a bitch about it :3 
01:30:07 <spacekitty420[m]> plowsof: 24/25 still not banned either btw, u saying u reviewed today but just scrolled up and messages still there, iirc ofrnxmr even fell for it on the offtopic channel earlier today :derp: 
01:33:11 <ofrnxmr[m]> I didnt fall for nothinggg
01:33:18 <spacekitty420[m]> yes u did LOL
01:33:26 <ofrnxmr[m]> I knew 24/25 before he turns his internet on
01:33:36 <ofrnxmr[m]> Check again, I sent him to off topic 
01:33:43 <ofrnxmr[m]> From gui
01:33:56 <spacekitty420[m]> alrighty, cause that one was easy, literally re-used same name
01:34:08 <ofrnxmr[m]> And I caught him when he came and say "hi" from another account a couple hrs prior 
01:34:44 <ofrnxmr[m]> Plowsof knows ive sniped him 100% of the time 😝😝 
01:34:54 <ofrnxmr[m]> Plowsof wakes up to "in dev"
01:35:18 <ofrnxmr[m]> And plowsof like"how u know. All they said was hi"
01:35:48 <Mochi101> CIs that really your XMR addy spacekitty420[m] ?
01:36:14 <spacekitty420[m]> sure, why?
01:37:49 <spacekitty420[m]> vanity gen, took like 8 hours on 28 cores (threadripper 2990x) which was definitely on the lucky side and recently saw there was even a better version of it that could do even faster vanity gens
01:39:04 <spacekitty420[m]> and also have a btc one with "1CUMSLUT" that wolf0 made me few years ago but btc too annoying and too slow, xmr ftw o.o
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01:42:02 <spacekitty420[m]> :3
01:46:41 <Mochi101> spacekitty420[m], yeah I know about the vanity address generator. It's just a nice address.
01:46:58 <spacekitty420[m]> well thank you <3
01:47:02 <Mochi101> spacekitty420[m], for me... can donate at mochi101⊙mi
01:47:04 <Mochi101> :P
01:47:47 <Mochi101> it's about all I ue the monero.id domain for.
01:47:58 <spacekitty420[m]> how does this work?
01:48:04 <Mochi101> openalias
01:48:14 <Mochi101> openalias.org
01:48:18 <spacekitty420[m]> oooh, heard about those, thought that was an ETH thingy
01:49:40 <plowsof> more info here https://medium.com/@JEhrenhofer/openalias-the-best-cryptocurrency-wallet-feature-youve-never-heard-of-bbf4a991d0a8
01:49:41 <spacekitty420[m]> turtlecoin also had something like that (well, prob doesnt anymore cause shitcoin gonna shitcoin), is neat af
01:52:14 <ofrnxmr[m]> I have boobs too, can I getta donation?
01:52:29 <spacekitty420[m]> Mochi101: so like just doing `transfer mochi101⊙mi [amount]` will work?
01:52:38 <Mochi101> yeap
01:53:51 <spacekitty420[m]> yeji-weji: received, thank you very much 😽😘❤️💞💖
01:56:58 <spacekitty420[m]> Mochi101: its saying the error failed to parse address :/
01:57:37 <ofrnxmr[m]> DNS?
01:58:24 <spacekitty420[m]> oh, right, firewall rules probably, having default deny outgoing so if dns would have to allow 53 out for that specific thingy i guess, idk... 😿
02:00:27 <Mochi101> For URL: mochi101⊙mi, DNSSEC validation passed
02:00:27 <Mochi101>  Monero Address = 8AxYRgSwz36MUHRmg9wLc94Y4HDRwxxpU4yKVfCCovAg5fzNcwMVUrx5ALkLstNnTQ1pRn13d2pyZ3BBSaTmVndx9NHLHTF
02:00:30 <spacekitty420[m]> nop, allowed everything out still failed to parse address so wasnt that
02:00:47 <Mochi101> just checked it
02:01:04 <plowsof> 180 chars long and in lower case is the future 
02:01:06 <spacekitty420[m]> oh maybe had to restart daemon then
02:01:38 <spacekitty420[m]> plowsof: copy paste is a thing so... whatever
02:01:38 <spacekitty420[m]> then qr core
02:01:38 <spacekitty420[m]> and eventually the nfc thingy
02:02:59 <Mochi101> should just use emojis
02:03:00 <Mochi101> lol
02:03:08 * Mochi101 jabs fluffypony 
02:04:46 <spacekitty420[m]> Mochi101: sent :3
02:07:16 <Mochi101> Hey thanks!
02:07:28 <spacekitty420[m]> well, technically thanks to yeji-weji :3
02:08:17 <Mochi101> well thanks then yeji-weji[m] 
02:08:28 <spacekitty420[m]> 🎉
02:08:45 <Mochi101> what a strange number
02:09:04 <Mochi101> Is there some significance to it?
02:09:35 <spacekitty420[m]> did sweep_all so i dont think so cause the fee
02:09:49 <Mochi101> ooooh
02:09:59 <Mochi101> now it makes sense
02:10:25 <spacekitty420[m]> :P
02:11:15 <Mochi101> I guess that address is no longer on the rich list.
02:11:40 <spacekitty420[m]> there is no rich list for monero, localmonero block explorer says so!
02:11:42 <yeji-weji[m]> There is significance to the amount of every xmr transaction and that is that it is UNKNOWN
02:12:46 <yeji-weji[m]> hopefully 😷
03:34:04 <Torr> See ya
05:16:06 <wormrobot> guys for openalias does it matter what domains do i buy? .com .crypto .blockchain?
05:18:00 <wormrobot> i dont find any docs on how to set things up 
05:21:13 <spackle_xmr[m]> Works fine for all the domains I've purchased. The setup is fairly simple, just add a txt record with your information.
05:22:04 <spackle_xmr[m]> Without checking anything, here's an example txt record where you would just fill in the address and name: oa1:xmr recipient_address=ADDRESS; recipient_name=NAME; tx_description=Party On;
05:22:59 <spackle_xmr[m]> s/recipient_address/recipient\_address/, s/recipient_name/recipient\_name/
05:24:00 <spackle_xmr[m]> felt bad for not checking, you can see the same info here: https://openalias.org/
05:27:44 <apotheon> plowsof: I guess you missed all the on-topic chatter, then.
05:34:24 <apotheon> A quick check shows that most of my conversation was on topic or strongly adjacent, and most of my off-topic chatter was related to lou[m] picking fights.  Fun times.
05:34:29 <spackle_xmr[m]> I've never purchased an 'unstoppable domain,' so I can't speak to that. Not familiar with the limitations there.
05:34:51 <apotheon> What little I've heard about "unstoppable domains" sounded a little sketchy in the marketing approach.
06:01:04 <lou[m]> <apotheon> "A quick check shows that most of..." <- I just ponted out that Ross Ulbricht isn't a hero, he ran a marketplace to sell illegal drugs (which are bad)
06:01:32 <lou[m]> also the guy had terrible opsec, but that's neither here nor there
06:20:20 <Mochi101> apotheon, they are sketchy
06:31:17 <apotheon> Mochi101: thanks for confirmation
06:31:29 <Mochi101> yw
06:32:02 <apotheon> I'm still looking for a place I can buy ammo with Monero.
06:40:31 <yeji-weji[m]> apotheon: never used this before but saw it listed on monerica.com -> https://www.crypto-armory.com/
06:41:50 <yeji-weji[m]> anyone have experience with this site?
06:42:13 <apotheon> I forgot that place exists -- and no, I don't have any experience with it.
06:43:37 <yeji-weji[m]> According to their FAQ Monero is their "primary accepted" crypto (along with Ethereum)
06:45:36 <yeji-weji[m]> they also have do not have a wide range of calibers available
06:46:45 <apotheon> Yeah, I noticed very scant selection.
06:58:50 <apotheon> I guess the selection is probably part of the reason I didn't recall that site.
07:18:50 <Mochi101> What are you planning to hunt apotheon ?
07:21:44 <apotheon> targets and maybe deer
07:22:37 <wormrobot> finally you guys are talking in here
07:24:18 <wormrobot> and thank you all for replying to my question!
07:37:55 <wormrobot> someone whos interested in learning programable cryptography and one day help buid more software and and protocols to save our privacy, like all the current contributers in the crypto space
07:38:18 <wormrobot> does that someone has to be good at math?
07:38:58 <wormrobot> or is it just addition subtraction and division 
07:41:42 <apotheon> If you're getting into cryptography, expect a lot of work involving large prime numbers.
07:41:55 <apotheon> The math can get pretty complicated.
07:44:22 <Siren[m]> https://github.com/seraphis-migration/strategy/issues/1
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07:50:27 <Siren[m]> :DDD
07:52:26 <wormrobot> apotheon: ohh okay it has to do with prime numbers nice!
08:01:06 <yeji-weji[m]> I feel like some people who are typically “not good at math” are able to do better when they have real appreciations in front of them they are directly building. But mileage can vary
08:01:22 <yeji-weji[m]> s/appreciations/applications/
08:45:36 <apotheon> yeji-weji[m]: There's some truth to that.
09:11:08 <makkiato[m]> siren[m]: the advantages of a purely functional implementation are clear to most, but perhaps not to all. If you are GitHub user "spirobel" you should accept the challenge of "rbrunner7" and explain why this would be indeed worth doing. 
09:11:08 <makkiato[m]> Personally, I think the main argument is code security, possibly even opening the door to formal proofs verification of (fragments of) code. 
09:11:08 <makkiato[m]> Other arguments include portability (the purely functional language would be easier to be accessed from other programming languages). 
09:11:08 <makkiato[m]> I am perhaps less convinced about the argument of avoiding a 'reference implementation'. Having a 'standard wallet' implementation has its significant advantages (everybody uses it and so it has checked by many eyes), and is tested. I personally think that having a minimal 'functional/stateless' implementation' of the key functionalities and 'having a standard wallet implementation' are two orthogonal issues/choices. 
09:31:07 <dANBs[m]> kingofthenarwhales[xmpp]: Wazz up
09:35:26 <Siren[m]> mak_noob[m]: I'm not spirobel but if he really doesn't see anything wrong with wallet2.cpp I don't think anybody will be able to convince him.
09:35:49 <dANBs[m]> kingofthenarwhales[xmpp]: wallet2.cpp?
11:36:17 <ofrnxmr[m]> Siren:  one-horse-wagon says youre invited
11:53:09 <Siren[m]> Maybe I'll jump on it after work
11:56:06 <Siren[m]> Oh that's a person
11:57:29 <ofrnxmr[m]> Lmao 💀💀
13:01:47 <ka1i-sto[m]> Hi
13:01:48 <ka1i-sto[m]> I am trying to run Monero from external drive on Linux.
13:01:48 <ka1i-sto[m]> I moved my Monero.appimage with all its wallets and folders, also whole .bitmonero folder with already synced db to an SSD, but when I run it from ssd drive - the "lmdb" folder is not found and asks to create the new one...
13:02:40 <ka1i-sto[m]> Is it possible to run it completly from external drive? or I just can move the blockchain there? thanks
13:03:31 <ka1i-sto[m]> What do I do wrong? or what do I miss?
13:04:08 <sech1> --data-dir /path/to/your/.bitmonero
13:04:34 <ka1i-sto[m]> where do I use that?
13:04:39 <sech1> in monerod command line
13:04:48 <ka1i-sto[m]> need to run as command?
13:04:57 <ka1i-sto[m]> it is GUI 
13:05:21 <sech1> there should be a field for monerod parameters in GUI
13:05:23 <sech1> add it there
13:07:08 <ka1i-sto[m]> All I found is Settings/Node/Blockchain location
13:07:57 <ka1i-sto[m]> ..but I can not type anything in that field
13:08:46 <spackle_xmr[m]> I believe it is under Settings/Log
13:12:47 <ka1i-sto[m]> spackle_xmr[m]: I did, but permission denied, the ssd I use is LUKS encrypted. do I need to use the absolute path in that command? like: /run/media/USER/etc...?
13:14:47 <selsta> ka1i-sto[m]: you have to select the folder, not type into it
13:16:08 <ka1i-sto[m]> I ran this command "--data-dir /path/to/your/.bitmonero" under Settings/Log - as sech1 advicesed above
13:16:16 <ka1i-sto[m]> s/advicesed/advisesed/
13:16:23 <ka1i-sto[m]> s/advicesed/adviced/
13:16:44 <selsta> that's incorrect
13:16:50 <selsta> --data-dir is a startup flag, not a command
13:17:03 <selsta> you have to go to Settings -> Node and select the blockchain location
13:17:38 <selsta> click on the "(Change)" button
13:18:07 <ka1i-sto[m]> I did, but is says "lmdb" folder not found even if I indicated to that folder first than on "data.mbb" file
13:18:17 <ka1i-sto[m]> s/than/then/
13:19:27 <selsta> you have to select the top level directory, not the database itself
13:19:36 <ofrnxmr[m]> Select the folder that contains lmdb
13:19:36 <ofrnxmr[m]> (Not the lmdb folder)
13:19:44 <selsta> the dir above the lmdb directory
13:19:58 <sech1> I'm too used to CLI, no idea where to look in GUI wallet
13:21:23 <ka1i-sto[m]> selsta: It says the same - lmdb folder not found
13:21:39 <ka1i-sto[m]> I tried absolut path to .bitmonero folder
13:22:20 <ofrnxmr[m]> Navigate to the folder in a file browser and check if it exists...
13:23:12 <ka1i-sto[m]> ofrnxmr[m]: I have it open in file manager and taking the path from there
13:24:36 <ka1i-sto[m]> as I said it is an LUKS encrypted ssd, the path to .bitmonero folder will be like: /run/media/USERNAME/SSD_NAME/.bitmonero
13:25:13 <ka1i-sto[m]> do I need to set whole this as path or start from the root of this drive?
13:25:37 <ka1i-sto[m]> I tried both but the same error says: lmdb folder not found
13:25:47 <ofrnxmr[m]> Have you tried to select the folder as instructed instead of typing the path?
13:26:16 <ofrnxmr[m]> Instead of typing/copy&paste 
13:26:28 <selsta> yes usually you just have to select it, not type the path manually
13:28:28 <ofrnxmr[m]> I just did it using a luks drive
13:28:43 <ofrnxmr[m]> Select the folder.
13:28:59 <ka1i-sto[m]> I can not choose it as .bitmonero is a hidden folder and after follow the link "(Change)" under "Blockchain location" the file browser it opens does not show hidden folders
13:29:19 <selsta> then rename it
13:29:24 <ofrnxmr[m]> Rename the folder
13:29:29 <ka1i-sto[m]> at least I could not sort how to indicate to .bitmonero folder from there
13:29:49 <ofrnxmr[m]> Remove the period 
13:29:55 <ka1i-sto[m]> like "bitmonero"? istead of .bitmonero?
13:29:58 <ofrnxmr[m]> * the period when you rename it 
13:30:04 <selsta> yep
13:31:55 <ka1i-sto[m]> dam, I have the same error
13:32:18 <selsta> then alternative try this
13:32:45 <ka1i-sto[m]> I was not expected that move monero with all of its db's and folders and gui appimage can be so complicated
13:32:54 <selsta> it's usually not
13:33:30 <selsta> select a folder on your external harddrive, click ok when it complains about missing lmdb, then start the daemon, let it sync for a minute, stop the daemin, replace the data.mdb file with the synced one
13:34:23 <ka1i-sto[m]> let me try..
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13:39:07 <ka1i-sto[m]> I did, and observed where the lmdb folder was created, then just changed the path from there to "my lmdb" folder and it seams it works
13:40:05 <ka1i-sto[m]> I'll be trying the CLI, it seams that option will be easier
13:40:10 <ofrnxmr[m]> Tldr /run/ wasnt needed ?
13:40:53 <ka1i-sto[m]> it needed, yes, it has absolute path
13:41:32 <ofrnxmr[m]> Oh well. Glad its working now
13:41:38 <ka1i-sto[m]> .. sorry, I got it, I ll try to remove and leave just from root of the drive
13:41:57 <ka1i-sto[m]> ..lets see if will work that way
13:42:57 <ka1i-sto[m]> thanks for help
14:18:12 <jozsef[m]> 卩尺ㄖ卩卄乇ㄒ: ofrnxmr[m] I am testing syncing a wallet from scratch from my i2p node, measuring roughly 500-600kbps currently: the wallet syncs about 48Kblocks/hour, which means, if I extrapolate this linearly, the full sync will take about 54 hours.
14:18:38 <ofrnxmr[m]> From height 0?
14:18:51 <jozsef[m]> Yep.
14:18:52 <ofrnxmr[m]> 0-200k+ speed syncs
14:19:11 <jozsef[m]> When I looked at it was more like 600kbps.
14:19:28 <jozsef[m]> Rightt now it is about 300.
14:19:36 <ofrnxmr[m]> Block heights 0-200k
14:20:25 <jozsef[m]> Oh, sorry, misunderstood, yes.
14:20:36 <jozsef[m]> But I know the last blocks are the killer.
14:21:37 <ofrnxmr[m]> Sorry. I mean 0-2m
14:21:37 <ofrnxmr[m]> the last 200k are slow*
14:21:37 <jozsef[m]> I will let it go and see how long it takes. Nevertheless, it might be okay to sync via clearnet, then once it is synced, just keep it updated via i2p, no?
14:22:24 <jozsef[m]> Yeah.
14:24:21 <ofrnxmr[m]> Depends on how long since ive last opened my wallet.
14:24:21 <ofrnxmr[m]> Imo smart background sync is needed on mobile wallets
14:24:31 <ofrnxmr[m]> Desktop wallets can stay in sync easily
14:28:08 <jozsef[m]> Or just use a lightwallet on mobile, no? (Running own i2p node trustworthy.)
14:33:17 <ofrnxmr[m]> I wouldnt use mymonero servers if you paid me and mymonero app is the only one with "support" for lws
14:33:47 <plowsof> in tor i can forward ports for the hidden service, im struggling to see a way to do that in i2p (other than messing with ufw) so i can have a public rpc (clearnet/tor/i2p)
14:36:55 <jozsef[m]> mynero supports tor and i2p, but I have not been able to play with it long enough to get it to work with i2p.
20:18:44 <tom-1> Hello . Can you please tell me where I can see the list of nodes recommended by the community? Thanks
23:14:53 <yoshi7777m> one you run yourself
23:15:13 <yoshi7777m> but if you want a list of random nodes, you can see some on this site: https://monero.fail/