00:04:25 https://repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/issues 00:04:25 these all bots? 00:06:55 yes :( 00:13:49 https://repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/issues/?sort=created_date&state=closed&first_page_size=20 00:13:49 OO 00:19:32 our gitlab has a huge spam issue 00:21:42 Wazzap my moneros!? 00:23:14 selsta when you create an account - you can but blaβŠ™bc for an email - no verification required, (so a dumb script can use the api) 00:24:09 I use mymonero app and buy directly from it 00:27:50 What's popping bros 00:28:12 hello rayatina, not much 00:30:03 Surely you got something going on fam? Some kick-ass opsec procedures? 😎 00:31:57 I'm doing speed and feeling too anxious to hit up discord so i thought I'd be getting go know you old-school legends hehe 00:38:27 rule number one of opsec: dont *tell* them you're doing speed 00:39:23 Hmm damn alright thanks 00:40:11 lol 00:50:37 don't tell people you're a swede either 00:53:07 Hmm I'm not concerned on irc really. I don't know do anything bad except drugs. What phones you got? Have you encrypted them? 01:04:32 maybe try discord, we're governed by swedish laws here https://libera.chat/policies/ 01:20:36 Swedish chef 01:27:21 Oh hell yeah, believe it or not but I'm swedish 01:28:00 And sweden let's you discuss mostly anything. Very big on free speech and open discourse 01:28:28 Encryption isn't at all a taboo topic 01:56:39 how is it "big on free speech" if there are things you aren't able to discuss? 01:57:27 Like what? 01:58:32 I can't think of any illegal topics of the top of my head at all 02:02:47 https://www.returnofkings.com/49279/freedom-of-speech-is-dying-in-sweden 02:05:12 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sweden-bashing 02:07:59 ? 02:08:43 either you have free speech or you don't 02:13:08 We do 02:27:01 But yo about that encryption 02:27:13 Anyone encrypting their phone? 02:33:08 #monero-offtopic:monero.social 02:35:39 Oh wrong channel? My bad, thanks 02:38:47 Not necessarily the wrong channel, but probably better suited for off topic 03:18:05 okay, so it looks like my array of cores are getting anywhere from 54H/s on the celeron to 480H/s on the i7s. I know they're not performance machines, but they're quiet and they share an office with me. 03:20:55 monero at 150 usd whuuuttt! 03:21:01 nice! 03:21:16 108.7, 428.3, 742.9, 945.9, 1005.9 ; and the 1005.9 is on the same host as the monerod 03:21:33 wait, that's just five. I have another. 03:22:08 there's also a 752.9 03:23:00 for an average of 3984.6 H/s 03:24:08 Keep at it son! 03:24:25 I'm 1/644377 of the total compute power! 03:24:38 Then we accelerate! 03:25:12 yeah, I am looking at getting ten of the latest generation of the mini computer I'm using 03:25:26 Pi? 03:25:33 I've got the oldest one 03:25:33 ha, no. proper processors 03:25:51 Alright godspeed then soldier 03:26:12 I don't know much but I respect it 03:27:11 Q1075GE x 10 with a 1T SATA SSD and a 512G NVMe plus 32G of memory and 8xGE ports 03:27:28 they're ostensibly 2.5GE, but my switch only does 1G at this point. 03:27:56 and that's a lot of switchports. I might run them with only 6 attached to the switch until I get rich. 03:28:11 Hmm, definitely worth looking into asap! 03:29:21 10GE 48-port switches are still ballah. https://www.fs.com/products/156886.html?attribute=13365&id=570350 03:29:50 one is almost as much as all of the instances combined. and I'd need two. 03:30:17 so I'll make do with what I've got for a bit longer :-) 03:30:42 My man! Grind and keep that chain going! 03:30:54 Public service, appreciate it 05:57:22 wow. each of my servers is pumping out 5K 05:57:53 oh, no. sorry. my new server is doing 5k. my old server is only at 1889 06:27:39 "for an average of 3984.6 H/s" <- I use small computers too, like Thinkcenters. 06:27:39 Have a few of them, about ~3500H/s each plus or less 06:27:40 Like them, quite good for size and power consumption (and price) 06:28:07 > <@cjac:libera.chat> for an average of 3984.6 H/s... (full message at ) 06:29:19 3500H/s *each*? That's pretty good performance. I'm seeing 900H/s for my best in class 06:30:32 all of mine are fanless, so that might have something to do with it. 06:39:02 Surely 06:39:02 Thinkcenter you can find low power unit (35w to 65w) all with Intel T series (they have some with ryzen too now) 06:39:02 Mine have 10500T 06:39:17 can upgrade to 10900T but it seam to be unobtanium 06:43:51 the TDP on these systems is 10W 06:46:39 If you'r in the EU that will be far too much. 06:47:24 Fortunately I mine using my own power, and not in the eu. 06:48:13 And that energy thing is propagating... 06:48:30 Pretty sad. 06:49:38 yeah, indeed. 06:49:38 Issue with power, a lot of investment into unreliable renewable, and they have that trip on switching on electric everything. What could go wrong... 06:56:44 no, I'm not in the EU. I peer on the SIX 07:04:06 I got a pair of these. What do you think? 07:04:08 dp/B071ZJ6DGW 07:04:13 sorry, amazon.com/dp/B071ZJ6DGW 07:05:19 and ten of these: amazon.com/dp/B09M43JPFX 07:06:51 To power all these small computers? Look good. 07:08:13 ten of these: aliexpress.us/item/3256804007661173.html 07:08:29 and the six I've got in my rack leaves me with capacity for a few more when I'm wealthy. 07:09:35 not super fast, but better than rpi clusters, and with some real hardware if we want these to be ceph data nodes 07:10:04 and enough to be redundant cattle rather than my beautiful little babies. Pets take too much time. 07:10:23 I want to handle them in bulk. 07:10:25 not worth the price 07:10:45 maybe not for this workload. 07:11:17 but if this workload was a secondary user on the equipment. It would keep me from wasting my extra cycles. 07:11:30 anyone here have any familiarity with openstack clusters? 07:11:38 https://www.ebay.com/itm/295155714872 07:12:22 no memory 07:12:36 single local disk 07:12:41 single network interface 07:12:50 has fan? 07:13:25 Thought it was for mining 07:13:25 I did not notice the ethernet port on the image 07:13:29 how I did miss that lol 07:13:33 I guess it's getting late 07:15:03 So you use them as indented and mine using the extra power. That's better! 07:15:42 this one might have too many nics. 07:16:20 https://gist.github.com/cjac/26bf753004194441f2f9a1a9c3db67d8 07:17:17 TOO MANY NETWORK INTERFACES. PUT SOME BACK. 07:18:51 lacp is super cool, though. Much easier to think of them all as a single bonded interface and pull tags off of them as needed. 07:18:54 does it have NVME? 07:19:14 m.sata ; so maybe? What's the width of that bus? 07:20:09 m.sata is 6Gbps 07:20:23 the M70q have one nvme and one sata. 07:20:24 looking at the image and it look like the small sata you plug in mini pcie (not m.2) 07:21:22 not mini pcie but similarly looking connectors 07:21:59 Connector look like it would fit with normal cables, so it's sata, but smaller 07:22:23 Sata3 is 6GB too, yeah 07:26:05 that's burst, though. and writes to or reads from the disk's cache. The reads from the storage will be much slower than the 6Gbps of the bus. I'll probably be disappointed with the performance if I compare it to the fancy new NVMe chips. But it should be good enough for the workload I need it to do. 07:26:50 sata ssd is fine for most people. 07:26:50 as long as it's not DRAM-less SSD 07:27:05 nice, the M70q does sound like a nice piece of hardware to have around. I might get a few and see if I can stand another fan. 07:27:24 It's not loud, and it's upgradeable 07:27:34 I look to mod mine to put a 11th gen CPU in it 07:27:59 I do love lenovo hardware. I've got two laptops in my home office so far, and I've got a desktop waiting for me to pick it up at work. 07:28:22 the desktop was pretty fancy in 2018. 07:28:22 You might be able to get some at a discount locally, I mean, some place, they give that to remote workers and they don't reclaim them always, lot of them endup sold for 3x cheap 07:29:13 I use to always recommend Lenovo thinkpads (Serie T, P or X mostly) but more recently the quality went down the drain 07:29:32 oh? I like the P1 a bunch. 07:29:47 Thinkcenters still nice thru, as I use my own input devices 07:29:59 I prefer the old thinkpad keyboards. 07:30:24 And now some model have soldered ram or half the ram soldered 07:30:50 But there still great machine 07:30:59 I still have my X200, getting old 07:33:11 I got at 20Y4S1PV0M 07:33:16 for my refresh this year 07:37:14 Nice 07:38:50 I've been thinking about an eGPU for it, since it's got thunderbolt 4 ports 07:39:17 I drive 2x4K monitors with it, and that integrated GPU is just having a hard time of it. 07:39:38 You do you. 07:39:38 If you think you need one :) 07:39:38 I'm more into desktop for big machines, I barely use laptop now. 07:40:27 I figured I'd do it a favor and offload all that graphic memory that wayland is allocating from its primary pool and stuff. 07:42:01 $work has been trying to drive everyone to our browser-based OS since I joined. But we also run a debian derivative as another option, and I'm all about that. 07:43:51 I tried to like it, but the closest thing I could get to a shell on it was a container. And I don't know about you, but I really have a preferred terminal emulator, and it's not available on any other operating systems. 07:57:19 "$work has been trying to drive..." <- Better be on some damn work computers 07:57:31 I ain't installing work software on my devices 12:26:01 hi 12:26:50 i'm bridging from xmpp can anyone see this message? 12:27:17 Yes Trung 12:27:48 oh nice 😁 thanks speedyswede 12:28:13 Any time bro 😎 19:07:34 Mainnet blocktime over the last 100 blocks is down to 85 seconds. We had two reorgs a few hours ago. And my daemon does not get incoming connections today, which is very unusual. 19:07:38 Hmmmm ... 19:13:31 https://community.rino.io/blocks/frequencies/ 19:13:35 Rbrunner 19:13:58 Big hash rate change? 19:15:19 And a lot of reorgs 19:15:29 Nice. Yeah, looks like it. 19:17:53 That cries out for a nice conspiracy theory :) 19:19:22 20 blocks in 90 mins > 72 blocks in 90 mins 19:20:54 A lot of 2 block deep reorgs 19:21:34 Rucknium has some issues with that frequency page... im not exactly sure what 19:22:11 Im also looking at my logs 19:27:04 I have only one reorg in my logs today 19:27:59 but all top pools got a lot of new hashrate today 19:40:05 these short term hashrate changes happen quite often 19:43:00 rbrunner: do you have exactly zero incoming? 19:44:46 Yes. 12 out, 0 in, although with a main daemon I compiled myself a while ago. 19:46:06 there's a bug with back pings, that might be why 19:46:16 does your IP change? 19:46:43 Not sure. Might be. 19:46:47 assuming you have no local network issues that would prevent incoming connections it's likely https://github.com/monero-project/monero/pull/8640 19:48:42 Ok. So not so remarkable, basically just leaves the hash rate change. You say that happens from time to time? I wonder what that might be, with mining so distributed. 20:43:54 rbrunner: yes, i have seen it often that suddenly blocks come on super slow or super fast 20:44:03 normalizes itself after a couple hours 21:01:20 Interesting. And I think we can be lucky if this "ping" problem is the only "fallout" from a complete rewrite of such a central component. 21:22:42 so how long should I expect to wait before my balance increases above 0.000000000000 ? 21:24:51 cjac: what kind of mining are you doing? solo or p2pool or pool mining? 21:25:05 daemon? 21:25:25 I have a monerod running, and 8 miners connected to it. 21:25:28 what kind is that? 21:26:30 https://www.getmonero.org/get-started/mining/ says solo 21:27:05 ah. Depending on your hashrate, it might take months before you find a block. This is often referred to as a 'lottery' 21:30:25 Is there any reason why my transaction's fee per KB has increased a lot in the last few months? 21:30:37 yes 21:30:52 it was ~0.000004, now it is ~0.00002 21:30:56 I run my own node 21:31:17 correct 21:31:21 hyc: What reason is it? Did the hardfork change fees? 21:31:27 yes 21:31:38 Ok thanks 21:33:28 Is this also the cause monero transactions decreased lately? There are less spam TXs I guess 21:33:51 yes, the fee was increased to discourage spam 21:42:16 cjac: I just asked a bot for info on solo mining with a HR of 10k and this is what I got..... 21:42:22 At 10000 h/s with network diff of 3.36e+11 your expected time for find a block is 3.36e+07 s or 389.06 days 21:42:55 so anywhere between a very short time and several years 21:43:24 from that you can figure for your HR 21:47:10 wow. that sounds slow. And a block is less than 1 XMR? 21:47:31 0.6 21:47:47 so about $100/year at 10K h/s 21:47:58 slightly less 21:48:42 plus you get some heat in the winter 21:48:56 it feels like it takes far more power to mine a block than it's worth. And that doesn't include the cost of the hardware. 21:49:09 nioc: heh. right. :-) 21:49:37 cost of elec is a big factor 21:49:56 I imagine some get it for free 21:57:40 I wonder why Monero's price decoupled noticeably from price calculated following McCalfe's law (which says that the price is proportional to the square of the transaction quantity) after it got listed on Binance, while on Bitcoin, Metcalfe's Law remains more or less accurate 22:01:34 price of btc can go up but tx count can't 22:41:01 Because Metcalfe's Law isn't a law. On top of that, it's misapplied here. The social value of a cryptocurrency isn't equal to its market capitalization.