00:16:09 <DataHoarder> djsigmann: do not adjust config, that is for an alternative sidechain. Instead, adjust the wallet parameter. It cannot be a subaddress or integrated address, only a main address.
00:20:55 <djsigmann> DataHoorder, I'd prefer not to put my wallet directly into a command, so it doesnlt get saved in my shell history file, is there any way around that?
02:57:53 <DataHoarder> Not currently, would still recommend using a completely different wallet for p2pool (such address will be public) djsigmann
02:58:58 <DataHoarder> Maybe sech1, it might be a good idea to also offer the wallet parameter via an env variable? But this is mainly about not directly pinning wallet on history, but would still be seen by other p2pool nodes etc.
03:01:17 <DataHoarder> The address is public as it’s needed for other nodes to verify everyone’s shares (so you get payouts as well from others)
03:01:26 <DataHoarder> For example a random one https://p2pool.observer/miner/464sV5XGFxpAUGwae44VTu9SpoVTXcYM93H3BLdijxHufB7PfJ8Rz9X8Q1YGpwjnKbDLGxbLxWnEm3CiDPJEt4WB13cYeHg
03:02:04 <flatline> i have monerod, xmrig, and p2pool installed on my machine but it's too inefficient for any profit. so.. i kinda give up unless bytecoin is possibly any easier to mine
03:02:14 <DataHoarder> You can also see it on the Coinbase transaction https://p2pool.observer/share/e0ac62a47db36d233e56d35ae42783577b82965a6fc04dcb351be772b268702d
03:02:29 <DataHoarder> Most people do not mine Monero for profit, flatline
03:02:36 <DataHoarder> unless you have free power
03:04:51 <flatline> so basically there's no crypto worth mining anymore
03:06:07 <DataHoarder> Monero is worth mining
03:06:30 <DataHoarder> If it is only monetary profit you are for, welp
03:07:36 <DataHoarder> There are many other reasons why people mine, specifically Monero, such as wanting to obtain their coins just on their own without exchanges, or want to support the system, as a donation of their resources
03:13:29 <flatline> how does it benefit you specifically?
03:16:22 <nioc> I get heat in the winter
03:16:36 <DanIsnotthemanBr> Too secure the network?
03:19:18 <flatline> well if mining monero isn't profitable, then what coin is that doesn't require millions to start?
03:20:27 <nioc> all mining tends to breakeven, you need some type of advantage, electric costs is the big one
03:20:57 <nioc> *trends towards
03:21:33 <nioc> with btc it is access to the more efficient miners, not everyone can access them
03:21:47 <nioc> *it is also
03:22:16 <flatline> so unless i already have an advantage, whether it's hardware/electricity, then it's difficult for an average person to mine?
03:25:01 <nioc> I spend less for heat for and miners are off in the summer 
03:25:37 <flatline> what do you mine monero with?
03:28:09 <nioc> ryzen 3900X and a ryzen 5600G which mines on 1/2 the threads as it has limited L3 cache and still leaves enough for surfing and shitposting 
03:29:25 <nioc> 2 3900X, the second one I really have no other use for
03:29:54 <nioc> if you static clock and undervolt it uses much less elec 
03:31:06 <nioc> CPU at stock was like 110w and I have it set to use 65w while getting a small increase in HR vs stock
03:31:47 <nioc> 3900X  ^^
03:32:45 <flatline> I see, so with your current setup how often do you receive monero?
03:33:14 <flatline> does it take days?
03:35:06 <nioc> with payout set at 0.2xmr it takes about 5 weeks for a payout
03:36:16 <flatline> wow... 5 weeks
03:36:39 <nioc> HR=35k
03:38:13 <ofrnxmr[m]> flafl eptline:  woyld you do it for 0.2 btc in 5 weeks at the same elec rate?
03:38:40 <flatline> so basically it takes over a month to make $40
03:39:07 <nioc> brick by brick
03:40:16 <nioc> it also makes Cat happy, she has her choice of 3 rigs to absorb heat from
03:40:30 <nioc> yep she is on one right now  :)
03:40:46 <ofrnxmr[m]> Because... if were being honest, id rather have 0.2 monero > 0.2 btc in the long run
03:40:58 <ofrnxmr[m]> How do the rigs handle the cat hair?
03:41:08 <DanIsnotthemanBr> Cost more to mine btc too
03:41:32 <nioc> they have mesh tops, hair doesn't go through 
03:41:56 <nioc> clean intake filters as needed 
03:42:09 <nioc> not bad at all
03:42:19 <ofrnxmr[m]> The cat IS the filter. Gotcha
03:42:21 <nomadicsound[m]> flatline: also keep in mind that $40 costs probably just as much in electricity if not more. you dont mine monero for profit, you mine because you believe in the concept and protocol and like the idea of anonymously obtaining some. mining monero is essentially slowly convertin fiat into monero via your electricity bill.
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03:43:37 <flatline> i'm sorry my cat
03:43:41 <flatline> i want to murder them
03:45:36 <ofrnxmr[m]> Lol. Dont do that, just. .. I dunno. Lol. Dont leave the chat open
03:45:49 <ofrnxmr[m]> Banhammer:  dont worry about it
03:46:16 <DanIsnotthemanBr> Crazy car person
03:47:02 <flatline> well i put the keyboard down for a second and the cat immediately jumped on it and knocked it onto the floor so there wasn't much time to react
04:04:07 <Mochi101> bankitty
04:07:08 <great_taste> why have a cat
04:16:35 <ofrnxmr[m]> spacekitty420 @spacekitty420:catgirl.cloud:  where havevya beeen
04:32:11 <DataHoarder> flatline: I grab some moneros for long term use/storage, and a very small portion to pay for servers and domain names. I also contribute in other ways like code or projects (for example running the p2pool observer)
12:12:53 <djsigmann> nioc, you mentioned earlier that with your setup you get a payout roughly every 5 weeks, are your miners running 24/7? Do you use any kind of pool? I'm kinda new to all this, sorry.
12:15:48 <ofrnxmr[m]> He's using a traditional pool and sets his payout to 0.2xmr.
12:15:49 <ofrnxmr[m]> It takes him 5 weeks to accumulate 0.2 xmr to trigger the payout.
12:15:49 <ofrnxmr[m]> I cannot answer as to whether the miners run 24/7, or what pool is being used. But its a traditional pool with low fees, id imagine. 
13:12:33 <nioc> 24/7
13:51:28 <nioc> djsigmann_: for the cpu that draws 65w the total system is ~140w from the wall, the cpu w is what you have control over 
18:03:09 <cjac> I was getting 5280H/s with 18 threads, and I'm getting 5195H/s with 25.  There should be plenty of memory for each thread to make use of.  There's no disk usage.  What might be the bottleneck here?
18:03:23 <cjac> Rucknium[m]: suggests it's likely cpu cache
18:03:32 <cjac> perhaps NUMA management?
18:11:42 <Mochi101> cjac, which processor?
18:16:16 <nioc> 2MB L3 cache per thread is needed 
22:31:56 <chch3003[m]> My monero.com app is rescanning the chain for unknown reason. Did it happen to you?
23:56:12 <apotheon> chch3003[m]: Is it rescanning the whole chain, or is it just catching up because it hasn't been opened for a bit?