00:26:24 <ofrnxmr[m]> > <@ofrnxmr[m]:libera.chat> Privacy = stack wallet
00:26:24 <ofrnxmr[m]> > stability = cake wallet 
00:26:24 <ofrnxmr[m]> Update: Cake latest update is out, includes updates that bring privacy to a level on par with stack and monerujo
00:30:02 <vikCake[m]> ofrnxmr[m]: Cake and Monero.com wallets
00:34:07 <ofrnxmr[m]> Little feature that most should be interested in: trusted nodes
00:34:07 <ofrnxmr[m]> If you add a trusted node (one run by you or a friend..) you save 5-10mb of data on each startup, which as a consequence results in faster start to the sync process. Particularly noticable over slow networks or low data allotments 
00:35:47 <ofrnxmr[m]> 7mb vs ~100kb on startup
00:36:18 <DanIsnotthemanBr> Reckon they integrate lws into monerod?
00:37:43 <ofrnxmr[m]> Thats a question for dev / vtnerd / jberman etc.
00:37:43 <ofrnxmr[m]> I would like to see it developed in line with monero and be an "official" repo of monero-project 
00:42:16 <fmlatghor> im considering mining xmr at home using multiple machines, but im afraid it will up my electricity bill drastically.
00:45:23 <fmlatghor> might just use a vps instead, but i dont know if i would have capable enough hardware
00:46:04 <fmlatghor> i haven't done enough research on crypto and i dont know where crypto is going or if its worth mining anyways after the ftx scandal
00:46:26 <ofrnxmr[m]> Mining for profit? Wrong coin
00:48:01 <plowsof11> are you considering heating your home? that could up you electricity bill, buy some ear plugs instead and mine monero 
00:48:45 <DanIsnotthemanBr> Ftx is different that was a Ponzi scheme
00:49:18 <ofrnxmr[m]> Need to mine some scamcoin if you want to play the get rich off of dummies-inflating-the-price-beyond-actual-value game.
00:49:18 <ofrnxmr[m]> Regarding the state of crypto.. monero doesnt care what happens to shit/scamcoin. Monero is a utility first and foremost, with a lower inflation rate and more utility than. .. any other coin
00:49:38 <ofrnxmr[m]> More utility than* (not lower inflation)
00:49:43 <Torr> > are you considering heating your home?
00:49:45 <Torr> lol
00:50:16 <plowsof11> tough decisions 
00:50:37 <ofrnxmr[m]> So.. if youre mining monero because you want to save money in your piggy bank, go for it. Were not luna
00:50:37 <ofrnxmr[m]> If you want to mine monero to buy lambos, better hold those neros and stomach the electiricty costs
00:55:05 <ofrnxmr[m]> Regardless of what you mine, my 2c, convert to xmr.
00:55:05 <ofrnxmr[m]> Buying pressure on xmr = price appreciation = increased mining profit (fiat) > increase in miners.
00:55:05 <ofrnxmr[m]> So while buying monero might not be mining directly, it incentivizes mining 
00:55:21 <ofrnxmr[m]> Tldr, mine whatever you want, but male sure your xmr valance is increasing as a result 
00:55:35 <ofrnxmr[m]> Make*
00:55:35 <ofrnxmr[m]> balance*
00:56:20 <nioc> plowsof11: my miners are quiet 
00:57:16 <ofrnxmr[m]> "Wait.. its not supposed to sound like a turbine?"
00:57:44 <nioc> no sir
00:58:56 <plowsof11> cryptogrampy should chime in and say "MINE TOO, CAN'T HEAR A THING!"
00:59:37 <nioc> one thing to note, if you have a cat the power button should be in the front of the case, not the top
01:00:12 <nioc> if top a simple hack can prevent shut down
01:00:30 <Torr> nioc: That's because they're scared: https://oshi.at/PAhY/ZkWF.jpeg
01:00:47 <plowsof11> the top of the case provides a tactical advantage (height) and is also warm, i could see why that would be an issue
01:01:49 <nioc> my cases have a mesh top so the heat seekers end up there
01:14:56 <fmlatghor> ofrnxmr[m]: i wasn't hoping to get rich, but make a small amount of money. i dont know what coin would be best for that. i dont know much about coins in general, but i was considering exchanging some money for crypto and see if it goes up or down. i dont have that much of a practical use for crypto. it seems very interesting, especially monero and ethereum because of their decentralised and private
01:14:58 <fmlatghor> nature, but cash is prety private too, and less volatile.
01:19:01 <fmlatghor> ofrnxmr[m]: will it take up too much electricity if i leave xmrig running on 3 of my computers 24/7 ?
01:19:39 <ofrnxmr[m]> ETH isnt decentralized or private 
01:20:03 <fmlatghor> aren't all coins decentralised?
01:20:08 <fmlatghor> no banks
01:20:08 <ofrnxmr[m]> Nope
01:20:16 <fmlatghor> or governments
01:20:33 <ofrnxmr[m]> 100% of eth was printed before it was launched 
01:20:43 <fmlatghor> what does that mean
01:20:50 <ofrnxmr[m]> Today, still around 70% of eth was preprinted 
01:21:02 <fmlatghor> can you send an article
01:21:22 <ofrnxmr[m]> Its common knowledge since day 1 that eth was a 100% premine
01:22:36 <ofrnxmr[m]> Other coins have taxes on mining rewards, or taxes on using the features
01:22:36 <ofrnxmr[m]> These "taxes" go to central entities 
01:23:43 <DanIsnotthemanBr> Wasn’t mostly owned by exchanges?
01:23:47 <fmlatghor> central entities to support the blockchain?
01:23:58 <ofrnxmr[m]> Some coins are fairly launched, POW, decentralized networks... but often they arent private at all
01:25:29 <ofrnxmr[m]> A LOT of coins are just tokens living on the eth network.
01:25:29 <ofrnxmr[m]> ETH is more like the current system, just on the internet and with no privacy or regulations.
01:25:29 <ofrnxmr[m]> There are "ICO"s etc. These are obviously not money. These are stocks
01:26:49 <fmlatghor> I'm not sure I fully understand. Are there any resources I should read?
01:27:19 <ofrnxmr[m]> Hm. Its a deep rabbit hole.. but leads you hear anyway
01:27:46 <ofrnxmr[m]> The longer you stick around monero and compare the core values of monero vs anything else, you'll see what you need to see
01:28:05 <ofrnxmr[m]> One is money, the rest all have some other goal
01:28:18 <fmlatghor> Wow xmrig really drained my x200's battery.
01:29:08 <RavFX[m]> How much HR from that x200?
01:30:46 <fmlatghor> [2022-12-14 20:30:21.175]  miner    speed 10s/60s/15m 141.6 132.1 147.8 H/s max 183.0 H/s
01:31:00 <fmlatghor> RavFX[m]: 
01:31:54 <fmlatghor> I'm gonna try mining on my gaming laptop with gpu and my proliant server too
01:32:11 <ofrnxmr[m]> Use the GPU for something else
01:34:22 <fmlatghor> ofrnxmr[m]: not mining?
01:34:39 <ofrnxmr[m]> Not mining monero*
01:34:56 <ofrnxmr[m]> Mine and dump xhv or something 
01:43:23 <fmlatghor> will that take up a lot of power?
01:44:02 <RavFX[m]> Only all the power it can take from the part you use to mine
01:48:57 <fmlatghor> I'm not sure if that means it will use a lot or not
01:52:07 <fmlatghor> nah forget it, it's not worth mining at home. i might try dumping a coin though.
01:52:20 <fmlatghor> i dont know how effective that is
01:54:39 <fmlatghor> still gonna try mining for a few days on my other machines just to mess around
01:56:36 <ofrnxmr[m]> fmlatghor: Thats some math ya did there..
01:57:08 <ofrnxmr[m]> I assume youre saying its somehow its better to mine on a vps. Youd be terrible wrong
01:57:50 <ofrnxmr[m]> But yeah.. dont let me waste my time if you dont actually want to mine anything
01:58:20 <ofrnxmr[m]> Tldr. Use your gpu to mine xhv and use your cpu to mine monero
01:58:43 <ofrnxmr[m]> Sell the xhv for monero, and pay the electric bills out of pocket 
02:04:36 <fmlatghor> ofrnxmr[m]: i might try that, but i definitely need to do more research first. are you speaking out of your own experience?
02:09:10 <fmlatghor> ofrnxmr[m]: i wasn't saying it'd be better on a vps because of practical reasons, but for electrical costs
02:09:51 <RavFX[m]> VPS are to soft for there price, you gonna pay more
02:11:18 <RavFX[m]> If electricity is more expensive than mining income.
02:11:19 <RavFX[m]> Then buy the electricity price worth of coins instead of mining, you gonna have more for the same cost
02:17:19 <fmlatghor> makes sense
02:46:36 <fmlatghor> thanks for all the information, I'm learning a lot
03:36:28 <Torr> See ya folks
05:09:53 <Mochi101> Anybody want to buy some pre-bulletproof XMR? These are collectors items so the price is a lot higher than market XMR price.
05:10:47 <Mochi101> I'm charging 1.5 XMR for every pre-bulletproof XMR. Full coins only please.
06:32:50 <apotheon> Mochi101: Is that a thing?
06:33:09 <Mochi101> oh yes, of course!
06:33:21 <apotheon> weird
06:41:25 <Mochi101> You want to buy some apotheon?
06:41:56 <Mochi101> This stuff is going fast, so you have to hurry,
06:41:56 <apotheon> nah, thanks
06:42:29 <Mochi101> Yuo have to know it's BS, right?
06:42:33 <apotheon> If I want NFTs, I'll probably get 'em from Aurora so I get discounted compute time, or something like that.
06:42:38 <apotheon> yeah
06:42:59 <Mochi101> ok, good
06:43:03 <Mochi101> gnight
06:43:10 <apotheon> I was playing straight man for the joke, until the NFT comment.
06:43:22 <apotheon> g'night
06:53:50 <wormrobot> guys that was funny lets just love each other
07:48:59 <Inge> love, but verify.
13:11:49 <gingeropolous> any recommendations for IRC GUI? i've been using hexchat but migrating to a new lappy (finally... )
13:24:55 <sech1> https://thelounge.chat/
13:25:04 <sech1> but you need to host it somewhere
13:25:37 <gingeropolous> i already have a bouncer..... hrm
13:26:09 <sech1> just install thelounge there
13:26:33 <gingeropolous> oooh smartphone
13:26:36 <gingeropolous> ruh roh
13:26:47 <sech1> yep, I can shitpost on IRC from my smartphone now :D
13:26:53 <gingeropolous> danke
13:44:45 <DataHoarder> +1 for The Lounge, I run it with znc in front for other needs
13:45:13 <DataHoarder> A lot of the features are disabled by default and you need to configure them
13:50:21 <gingeropolous> ugh. is this the thing that'll make me deal with docker....
13:50:38 <sech1> no
13:51:31 <gingeropolous> node.js . im having nightmare flashbacks of running the monero pool....
13:52:30 <gingeropolous> presumably its gotten better since then
13:53:31 <sech1> theloun+    8452  0.0  1.2 1536516 802504 ?      Ssl  Oct04  53:54 node /usr/bin/thelounge start
13:53:35 <sech1> nah, only 800 MB memory
13:53:37 <sech1> it's fiiiine
14:40:40 <D0Q03[m]> > <@gfdshygti53:monero.social> If electricity is more expensive than mining income.
14:40:40 <D0Q03[m]> > Then buy the electricity price worth of coins instead of mining, you gonna have more for the same cost
14:40:40 <D0Q03[m]> It'd be good if the vps is in a place where energy cost is very cheaper than at your home
14:51:09 <crumpled_runner[> https://monerica.com/
14:57:50 <gingeropolous> i just meant the dependency nightmare. install this version of npm, to install this version of nodejs.... etc
15:02:05 <Mochi101> :D
15:02:18 <Mochi101> npm install *
15:03:49 <Mochi101> gingeropolous, you don't like it when your /node_modules is larger than the Monero blockchain?
15:36:47 <RavFX[m]> Always use nodejs in containers
15:37:30 <termer> I LOVE node.js!
15:37:39 <RavFX[m]> The dependency nightmare is more the supply chain attack party that come with it
15:37:57 <cleo[m]> ah yes, the definetly not insecure npm
15:37:59 <RavFX[m]> It's why it should never be installed on you're bare system
15:40:40 <termer> I try to keep package counts very low when working with node
15:40:45 <termer> otherwise it's a fucking hazard
15:41:23 <RavFX[m]> keep every project in there own container. When done, delete container!
17:40:46 <ajs_[m]> Like, Retweet pls, thx https://twitter.com/Paralelni_polis/status/1603441934835630082?t=vWJ958U42_RkLvdNjkg6uw&s=19
17:44:28 <Sir> Hello I am looking for a little support getting up and runing. Am I in the right place.
17:45:04 <Sir> ?
17:45:19 <nioc> yes, please give specifics 
17:46:11 <nioc> then wait for an answer
17:56:57 <rbrunner> It's the first time I see that nowpayments.io way to donate with other cryptocurrencies than XMR. Is that new? And does this pay directly into the XMR address for the CCS?
17:59:19 <nioc> ajs_[m]> with NowPayments donation button, BTC/LTC/ETC is automatically converted to XMR and sent to the CCS
17:59:27 <nioc> rbrunner: ^^
18:01:53 <rbrunner> Yeah, saw that, a ChangeNow venture as it seems, just wondered how long it's possible already to donate that way
18:02:14 <rbrunner> and where to see, well, whether I could trust that
18:02:49 <rbrunner> (A question just out of principle, with almost all new things Monero)
18:20:59 <Sir> If I cancel a blockchain sync with control C will it just pickup where it left off?
18:21:17 <Sir> I am not exactly at home
18:21:31 <Sir> I ma sure they will want me to leave sooner or latter.
18:22:09 <nioc> don't know about control C, I just type exit into the daemon which will save the chain and then exit
18:22:41 <nioc> that will allow you to sync from where you have exited
18:22:51 <Sir> Ok thank you.
18:23:39 <nioc> yw
18:23:56 <Sir> Perhaps I should elaborate a little. I am doing this on a laptop. I run a crypto currency meetup and I want to start mining monero at that meetup. so pepole can see how the sausage is made.
18:24:52 <Sir> Should be cool for newbies.
18:25:01 <plowsof11> try gupax.io with a remote node if you're in a rush (its in beta though) 
18:25:08 <nioc> will you be mining with the built in miner in the daemon or using an external mining program like xmrig? 
18:25:24 <Sir> built in was the plan.
18:25:59 <nioc> yeah daemon/chain needs to be synced 
18:26:19 <Sir> I was just looking at the names in the room. I know the name fluffypony. very cool.
18:27:34 <plowsof11> that's the CEO of Monero (Chief Entertainment Officer) 
18:30:49 <Sir> I've seen a few interviews. 
18:31:41 <Rucknium[m]> (That is a joke. Monero has no CEO.)
18:32:14 <Sir> I got it
18:32:28 <nioc> we don't have a Chief Entertainment Officer?
18:32:30 <nioc> so sad
18:34:36 <Sir> Its a unofficial mob appointment.
18:34:43 <Sir> Well vote on it now. 
18:34:52 <Sir> All in favor type I
18:34:53 <Sir> I
18:36:41 <plowsof11> Sir this is a public library, i know you said you needed to synchronoise something on our wifi but we're closing in 20 minutes, and you please finish up 
18:37:06 <Sir> LoL 
18:37:46 <Sir> Actually I am at a Resturaunt. 
18:38:48 <wormrobot> anyone here has purchased a Telegram phone number on fragment using TON
18:39:19 <wormrobot> Sir: do they have good internet speeds? or your off a hotspot lol
18:40:18 <Sir> decent speed. I use this laptop strictly outside of the home and only outside of the home.
18:40:40 <Sir> were lucky where I live good internet is everywhere.
18:40:52 <wormrobot> Sir: funny thing is im in the proccess of buying one for that reason and purpose
18:41:09 <Sir> Hot spot?
18:41:36 <wormrobot> no another laptop for remote use only!
18:42:23 <Sir> I was really disapointed at my options in hot spots at stores. Even best buy everything was branded you basically have to order online for an unbranded one.
18:42:27 <Sir> Ahh
18:43:14 <wormrobot> so i can sit at a restaurant and have a drink, but i cant with this laptop.. because i wont trust the restaurants wifi 
18:43:33 <Sir> Yeah I am desktop and pad at home but this laptop is the walk about one.
18:43:34 <wormrobot> yeah fuck the hotspot everyplace has free wifi nowadays 
18:43:52 <Sir> Gonna do any war walks with your new laptop?
18:44:20 <Sir> Computers are just a hobby for me so i personally haven't gone that far.
18:45:30 <wormrobot> war walks hahaha???
18:45:46 <plowsof11> war cycling war driving war walking 
18:45:55 <plowsof11> sniffing for wifi 
18:45:56 <Sir> I was chatting with a guy a few years back that lived above a cafe he didn't have internet at all just used theirs. 
18:46:17 <Sir> my personal favorite was war kitty.
18:46:17 <wormrobot> ohhhhh
18:46:30 <wormrobot> i alredy did that with my current one...
18:46:36 <Siren[m]> At some point I was using nearby 24/7 kebab kiosk's internet
18:47:05 <wormrobot> most of my neighbors wifi pw are already cracked 
18:47:18 <Siren[m]> Yeah same
18:48:06 <wormrobot> then i wanted to try and find what network had the cameras so i can watch the cameras that watch me lol.. if you know what i mean
18:48:08 <Sir> Sadly, or maybe not so sad, I am not that close to any buisnesses. 
18:48:45 <Sir> Yeah I have to admit that shit is anoying. Evry Dotard has ring cameras now.
18:49:07 <wormrobot> Sir: Hahahaha
18:49:10 <wormrobot> exactly lol
18:50:09 <Sir> Not that I care terribly what some one does but you can't even take a walk without being on the Fing internet. 
18:50:54 <plowsof11> Yes sir i understand but the next customers are going to be here in 10 minutes and we need to clean your table 
18:51:12 <wormrobot> plowsof11: what lol??
18:51:33 <Sir> One would think you would have the decency to point those things at your own house not the street, but nope.
18:51:37 <Sir> Nah there cool.
18:51:54 <Sir> I keep ordering beers.
18:52:11 <wormrobot> drafts? or bottles?
18:52:18 <Sir> bottle
18:52:39 <wormrobot> heineken or corona?
18:52:54 <Sir> Neither, guess again,
18:53:42 <DanIsnotthemanBr> https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/zmoqih/to_paranoid_or_not_to_paranoid_node_setup/
18:53:42 <DanIsnotthemanBr> This is what i was referring to with the guide
18:53:47 <plowsof11> Take the 'what are you wearing' stuff to private 
18:54:30 <wormrobot> plowsof11: sorry sorry! lol
18:56:51 <wormrobot> Sir: budweiser or samuel adams
18:57:33 <Sir> Worm is trying to hack the local network see if I am a hot chick.
18:57:46 <Sir> @worm dos equis
18:58:19 <Sir> Wow its been a long time since I have been in an IRC chat i've forgotten the commands.
18:58:24 <wormrobot> Hahahaha
18:58:40 <wormrobot> ik what it is but never tried it 
18:59:18 <plowsof11> where is the temp ban for ignoring request to take the chats to private 
18:59:34 <Sir> is it forward slash pm
18:59:52 <wormrobot> tag = myname && tab for auto comple... && (message)
19:00:23 <plowsof11> Dan (Is not the man & Braxman Tomsparks Advocate) ok, i guess we really need to improve the getmonero guide, but, it can only be the very basic/simplest form 
19:00:45 <wormrobot> msg == /msg (message)
19:01:53 <Sir> think that worked.
19:08:02 <Rucknium[m]> "How to run a node?" isn't specific enough. There are many ways to run a node for different purposes.
19:09:23 <wormrobot> i agree^
19:12:09 <plowsof11> everyone wants the guide for their specific purposes though - some hate docker - some hate systemd 
19:13:14 <plowsof11> its a tough one, but i think simply adding run time flags to have a public restricted rpc port is the missing piece of a simplistic guide 
19:13:49 <DanIsnotthemanBr> I think it needs explanation in the guide and like simple and advance setup
19:14:01 <ofrnxmr[m]> Simple = gui 
19:14:04 <DanIsnotthemanBr> Adnvance could be with config
19:14:17 <DanIsnotthemanBr> s/Adnvance/Advance/
19:14:36 <DanIsnotthemanBr> Even in the simple could reference gui has built in one
19:14:53 <plowsof11> yeah simple is gui for yourself , and then 'how to run monerod with a restricted rpc port ' and then glhf is acceptable
19:15:34 <ofrnxmr[m]> I think there COULD ve "1 click" buttons to setup advanced stuff
19:16:23 <ofrnxmr[m]> But again, I dont think people should vs using obfuscation techniques that they dont understand, and they shouldt run a node expecting higher privacy 
19:16:35 <DanIsnotthemanBr> Yeah
19:16:38 <ofrnxmr[m]> Running a node exposes you to the entire network as a monero supporter 
19:16:54 <DanIsnotthemanBr> Probably why it needs explanation with each setup
19:17:01 <plowsof11> guides on getmonero have to be as generic as possible - if you must change 1 word in the future - due to translations there will be a pull request with 4000 things changed 
19:17:04 <DanIsnotthemanBr> This how this setup works
19:17:34 <ofrnxmr[m]> I have a guide, dont look, its broken, on what do do for each use case 
19:17:38 <DanIsnotthemanBr> ofrnxmr[m]: Criminal ;)
19:18:05 <ofrnxmr[m]> Access from same device? To nothing
19:18:05 <ofrnxmr[m]> access from other devices on lan? Add flags
19:18:05 <ofrnxmr[m]> access from other devices on wan? Open ports + instructions 
19:19:14 <ofrnxmr[m]> Setup an onion rpc? Easy too but not recommended for noobs
19:20:08 <ofrnxmr[m]> 500kbps (onion RPC) isnt exactly a noob friendly ux, its a pain point 
19:20:42 <nioc> simple mode = DL CLI and start monrerod
19:20:57 <DanIsnotthemanBr> Yeah needs disclosure i think
19:20:58 <DanIsnotthemanBr> Simple,advanced, blah blah
19:21:13 <ofrnxmr[m]> I think its pretty simple and almost fine as is
19:21:28 <ofrnxmr[m]> If it needs a guide, its a DYOR thing as there are plenty of good guides available 
19:21:29 <DanIsnotthemanBr> I dont thing cli is for noob
19:21:30 <ajs_[m]> rbrunner:  nothing has come in yet. if you like, DM me your email and I could give you view-only access to the back end
19:21:37 <DanIsnotthemanBr> s/thing/think/
19:21:41 <DanIsnotthemanBr> Gui can be
19:21:41 <ofrnxmr[m]> Otherwise, just add toggles in gui for restricted rpc 
19:22:08 <nioc> I am noob and only use CLI
19:22:29 <nioc> cause never a bug
19:22:41 <fu3gdu2nb[m]> What are opinions of mining with GUI? Get only about 700 H/s. Not even worth it? 
19:23:26 <nioc> At 700 h/s with network diff of 2.84e+11 and block reward 0.62 you can expect 0.0001 XMR per day.
19:23:44 <DanIsnotthemanBr> Most noobs cant use cli.
19:23:51 <ofrnxmr[m]> Yes they can
19:23:56 <DanIsnotthemanBr> Unless you have a set of commands
19:24:04 <ofrnxmr[m]> My grandma can use cli if she wants to
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19:24:18 <nioc> help = commands
19:24:23 <ofrnxmr[m]> People act like they cant copy and paste or read 
19:24:24 <RavFX[m]> CLI is fine
19:24:33 <GDSir> Every use case is diffrent though. I am using the cli because it will show more stuff going on that the GUI when I do the meetups. If it was just my personal machine I am not the best tech person so i would probably just try GUI,
19:24:55 <DanIsnotthemanBr> Thats my point you would need to have a list of commands and explain them
19:25:02 <GDSir> that=Than*
19:25:35 <GDSir> even just a couple recomended links to Youtube videos would be great.
19:25:44 <nioc> or you could just use the commands and see what happens 
19:25:57 <DanIsnotthemanBr> You dont want people to blindly cooy commands
19:25:59 <nioc> you can't break it
19:26:04 <DanIsnotthemanBr> s/cooy/copy/
19:26:21 <GDSir> nioc I disagree i can break anything.
19:26:43 <DanIsnotthemanBr> Yeah my special power
19:27:07 <nioc> ok lis = help all
19:27:12 <nioc> list*
19:28:09 <ofrnxmr[m]> DanIsnotthemanBr: Huh
19:28:13 <ofrnxmr[m]> Isnt that was gui is
19:29:06 <ofrnxmr[m]> DanIsnotthemanBr: And yeah.. help all has a list of the commands and explains them all
19:29:28 <ofrnxmr[m]> Except for --proxy 😝 iirc --proxy isnt explained lolol
19:29:28 <fu3gdu2nb[m]> Copy commands is fine if you can trust the source
19:29:29 <nioc> truth is I started b4 there was a GUI and am too stewpid and lazy to learn the GUI
19:30:21 <nioc> also people think I am hacker  :D
19:31:12 <GDSir> lol Well I am out Im running out of juice and this outlet dose not work.
19:31:25 <nioc> l8r
19:31:29 <ofrnxmr[m]> Re cli, I prefer config files to copy and pasting flags 
19:31:42 <GDSir> Thanks for the help folks. 
19:31:50 <GDSir> l8r.
20:10:35 <wormrobot> nioc: "also people think I am hacker" <--- thats how it begins, and then you actually are a hacker 
20:17:13 <wormrobot> hey hey where can we go chistmas shopping with monero!
20:56:34 <apotheon> 20:10 < wormrobot> nioc: "also people think I am hacker" <--- thats how it begins, and then you actually are a hacker 
20:56:46 <apotheon> I once got accused of "hacking" someone's computer at a Panera Bread.
20:57:08 <apotheon> I was just using a text mode IRC client.
20:57:24 <apotheon> The guy didn't accuse me to my face.  He complained to a manager.
20:58:15 <apotheon> 20:17 < wormrobot> hey hey where can we go chistmas shopping with monero!
20:58:17 <apotheon> https://monerica.com/
20:58:35 <apotheon> wormrobot: You could also use "CakePay", I guess, if you use Cake Wallet.
20:59:08 <apotheon> I guess it's "Cake Pay", with a space in it.
21:06:50 <nioc> damn apotheon hacked my comp and made it light up and make sounds
21:06:59 <RavFX[m]> Can also use coincards to buy Amazon.com gift cards, then can buy anything on amazon.
21:07:01 <RavFX[m]> Guess Cake Pay can do that too
21:07:23 <nioc> all I want for christmas is mooonero
21:10:09 <RavFX[m]> I always accumulate Mooooonero, not only on christmas.
21:10:09 <RavFX[m]> All income that is not spent is converted in monero!
21:10:09 <RavFX[m]> Ah non, actually all income is in Monero and monero is spent, what's important is that the amount of monero go up.
21:10:28 <RavFX[m]> * go up over time.
21:11:42 <nioc> mgu
22:09:41 <Sir> Hello I need some help
22:10:56 <Sir> I am trying to sync the chain here at a coffee shop and I think the dameon keeps loosing its connection.
22:12:03 <Sir> 2022-12-15 23:11:48.388	D Destructing connection #84 to 136.54.58.235
22:12:03 <Sir> 2022-12-15 23:11:48.388	I [83.48.65.179:18080 OUT] [0] state: closed in state synchronizing
22:12:03 <Sir> 2022-12-15 23:11:48.388	I [83.48.65.179:18080 8ce210a5-efdb-45e1-93bb-f3658d9a4172 OUT] CLOSE CONNECTION
22:12:14 <Sir> am I interpreting this correctly?
22:12:31 <Sir> I am assuming this is some fire wall shit with the coffe shop.
22:13:43 <Sir> anyone home?
22:15:29 <Sir> guess not.
22:15:48 <Sir> ok I am going to assume that this is a fire wall thing and change locations. 
22:30:42 <Sir> yep it was a fire wall issue do not try to synch the chain at star bucks.
22:31:11 <selsta> i assume it would take way too long to sync anyway
22:31:23 <selsta> unless you go there multiple days lol
22:31:32 <Sir> you can always stop it and pick up another day.
22:32:10 <Sir> I am doing it as an example for my crypto meetup.
22:32:24 <Sir> so it has to be on the laptop
22:33:47 <Sir> Did my message even post.
22:34:42 <Sir> I dropped a message about the problem @ like 18:13:27 
22:35:05 <Sir> oh wait that is a local time tag and my clock is bad anyway never mind.
23:16:26 <revuoxmr> Revuo Monero. Issue 150: December 8 - 15, 2022. http://revuo-xmr.com/issue-150.html
23:25:00 <Sir> What does everyone think of the Elizabeth warren bill. Seems like and abortion to me.
23:25:15 <wormrobot> apotheon: thank you! ill check it out
23:38:09 <apotheon> I need new ways to acquire cryptocurrencies.
23:38:47 <apotheon> I want a cleaner onramp from fiat.
23:39:14 <theking[m]1> Cake Wallet supports Visa allegedly
23:59:26 <Mochi101> apotheon, sell your body services for crypto.