00:06:55 <Steven_M> Mochi101: Would you say it's still safe to use?
00:07:36 <Mochi101> Steven_M, yes
00:09:54 <Mochi101> Personally I won't use something like that, but you must have your reasons.
00:13:58 <Steven_M> Mochi101: It's just temporary until I get the problems with my own node sorted.
00:15:43 <Steven_M> Mochi101: Cool, just to confirm, the URL is https://mymonero.com/, right?
00:16:23 <endogenic> ask me
00:16:25 <endogenic> i built it
00:16:33 <endogenic> i cant maintain it anymore
00:16:52 <endogenic> no access
00:18:07 <Steven_M> endogenic: I've never seen you in here before.
00:18:28 <endogenic> not sure what to tell ya
00:18:51 <Steven_M> Can anyone vouch for endogenic?
00:18:59 <endogenic> no need
00:19:10 <endogenic> my code is public even if it was washed over
00:19:19 <endogenic> as are my talks and irc records
00:19:36 <endogenic> only question is how do you know i'm not actually chatgpt ?
00:19:49 <endogenic> has anyone actually seen endogenic alive in the last X years?
00:20:38 <Steven_M> endogenic: no offense, I've just never seen your nick.
00:21:03 <endogenic> i may have seen yours once or twice
00:21:18 <endogenic> you must have been here early
00:21:26 <endogenic> not many people remember mymonero
00:21:56 <endogenic> so, opposite of offense taken
00:21:59 <endogenic> :)
00:22:20 <Steven_M> :)
01:03:02 <Mochi101> Steven_M, yes
01:07:53 <Steven_M> Mochi101: Yes to the URL question, or yes to vouching for endogenic?
01:12:18 <Mochi101> both
01:19:23 <Steven_M> Mochi101: Okay, thank you :-)
01:24:32 * Steven_M has to go now, I'll be back later.
01:31:19 <xmrack[m]> Does anyone have a link to the "private" block explorer project
02:24:20 <xmrfn[m]> Quite a few.
02:25:49 <xmrfn[m]> First. Impressive as hell. They claim to be able to factor integers in O(m/log m) physical qubits.
02:28:14 <xmrfn[m]> From a cursory read, looks plausible. Naively for RSA2048 that would be ~617 qbits. The paper claims (and I believe them) it will take only 372. 
02:30:37 <Mochi101> modern day snake oil
02:31:20 <Mochi101> having your cake and eating it too
02:31:21 <xmrfn[m]> Best today are just shy of 100. It gets exponentially harder to manage as the number of bits goes up. But that's plausible in the 10-20 year future.
02:31:27 <Mochi101> the cat is alive and dead
02:33:36 <xmrfn[m]> They also claim breaking RSA2048 will take a depth (number of sequental gates/"run length" of quantum program) of "thousands". I'm not sure what the state of the art is for depth, or how quickly it's likely to improve.
02:40:31 <xmrfn[m]> So yes, this is impressive, unexpected, possibly YUGE, and means RSA2048 probably has a shelf life of a few decades.
02:41:19 <xmrfn[m]> But **no impact to Monero**, AFAICT
02:41:19 <xmrfn[m]> This paper is all about factoring large numbers.
02:41:19 <xmrfn[m]> Ed25519 is based on elliptic curves over finite fields, rather than the factorization of large  numbers. 
02:50:40 <xmrfn[m]> Edit: After reading [Scott Aaronson’s post](https://scottaaronson.blog/?p=6957) I see this almost certainly **isn't** a big deal -- likely won't scale to larger numbers
05:37:44 <hasslethrobbinge> https://securitycryptographywhatever.buzzsprout.com/1822302/11996492-has-rsa-been-destroyed-by-a-quantum-computer
06:06:01 <Steven_M> Hi All :-)
06:10:20 <Steven_M> Is it normal for the same https website to be verified by different CA's in different browsers?
07:30:57 <Steven_M> getmonero.org is resolving to www.getmonero.org instead of its usual web.getmonero.org, should I be worried?
10:13:58 <binaryFate> .
11:02:19 <fluffypony> Steven_M: yes it's still operational; mymonero.com -> scroll to the bottom and you'll see that we still operate the web wallet although we strongly discourage its use
11:25:55 <DanIsnotthemanBr> Maybe curl or dig  the website address to verify chain
11:34:04 <user23434[m]> Hello guys,... (full message at <https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/libera.chat/f4bab61f7832b090c4240c21b678967edd2e1597>)
11:34:21 <user23434[m]>  * Hello guys,
11:34:21 <user23434[m]>  New monero user here. I was wondering what pc (pre-built as unfortunately I can't make one myself) should I buy to mine monero. My electricity price is about 0.22usd/kWh. Budget should ideally be less than $2000 but is flexible. Main concern is profitability.
11:34:21 <user23434[m]>  Thank you in advance for your help.
11:40:39 <plowsof11> profitability graph https://bitinfocharts.com/comparison/monero-mining_profitability.html#alltime 
11:41:47 <plowsof11> i don't know much about mining but i think what you've just said is missing the entire point of 'RandomX' / 1cpu1vote
11:41:48 <merope> plowsof11: That graph is kinda pointless, this one is better: https://moneroj.net/efficiency/
11:42:16 <merope> Unfortunately, at 0.22 $/kWh you're gonna lose money
11:42:50 <merope> (unless the Monero price goes up significantly
11:48:20 <merope> In this context, profitability = (your mining efficiency / breakeven efficiency) - 1
11:49:21 <merope> so a profitability of 0 means that all your mining income is spent on paying for the electricity you used
11:58:29 <Jack[m]> any good reads on why I should host my own node?
11:59:09 <plowsof11> https://www.monerooutreach.org/breaking-monero/remote-nodes.html
12:00:22 <Jack[m]> ahh, I started watching that series
12:00:29 <Jack[m]> got too boring by part 3
12:00:36 <Jack[m]> I'll check this out though, thanks
12:04:01 <merope> tldr: better privacy, and much smaller chance of malicious stuff happening (like the node telling your wallet that you should pay 1 xmr/byte in tx fees
15:40:55 <FuFo> 16:35:20 <FuFo> Hi there, forgot my token number to see my history...https://xmrvsbeast.com/cgi-bin/p2pool_bonus_history.cgi any hope to generate it again? sorry guys...
15:47:36 <ofrnxmr[m]> endor00:  plowsof @plowsof:matrix.org:  found this one the other day https://poolbay.io/crypto/23/monero
15:48:46 * ofrnxmr[m] uploaded an image: (130KiB) < https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/monero.social/ApTcgmFSUVLPuhutZNjrVAJA/62csqhfmjtrmkpj0.jpg >
15:50:08 <ofrnxmr[m]> Also shows pool hashrates etc like minerpoolstats, though its missing a couple pools
15:54:12 <FuFo> nice pools...but I still trying to access to my own history after I forgot my token https://xmrvsbeast.com/cgi-bin/p2pool_bonus_submit.cgi ...How can I get the Token number again?
15:57:10 <ofrnxmr[m]> #p2pool-mini:libera.chat  and ping xmrvsbeast
15:57:35 <ofrnxmr[m]> Or #xmrmine:matrix.org 
15:58:19 <ofrnxmr[m]> After those two, you will have collected all of the infinity stones and reposted the same message. Best time just add a header IMPATIENT
15:58:24 <ofrnxmr[m]> Next time*
15:58:48 <FuFo> :-)
16:07:13 <merope> ofrnxmr nicer-looking plot than bitinfocharts, but revenue per kH/s means fuckall on its own
16:07:48 <ofrnxmr[m]> Yeah, just below is a calculator too :P
16:07:59 <merope> it's all about efficiency, which in turn tells you exactly how many $/kWh you can earn by mining
16:08:16 <merope> yeah, I mean the plot
16:08:20 <merope> because you can't really learn anything useful from it alone
16:08:23 <ofrnxmr[m]> Overall I like that the site seems to merge a few different sites feature into one (minerpoolstars, bitinfochsrts )
16:09:26 <merope> <merope> "That graph is kinda pointless..." <- That's why I told Morpheus to add this ^ to his site
17:59:48 <xfedex[m]> > <@user23434:matrix.org> Hello guys,... (full message at <https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/libera.chat/817b2b51175b2498607de8db025d1bf26d19ad1d>)
18:00:01 <xfedex[m]> You should use a computer you already own to mine it
18:00:22 <xfedex[m]> i recommend p2pool-mini as a mining pool, and xmrig as a mining software
20:41:44 <RavFX[m]> Mine with everything you already own, it's what I do too.
22:32:29 <llacqie[m]> What happens if I first synced with prune-blockchain=1, and then remove this parameter and start monerod?
22:33:37 <sech1> blockchain will remain pruned
22:33:52 <sech1> and new blocks too
22:55:47 <llacqie[m]> And where does he keep the information that the blockchain is pruned? In lmdb file?
22:56:54 <llacqie[m]> * And where does it keep the information that the blockchain is pruned? In lmdb file?
22:57:02 <llacqie[m]> s///
23:33:08 <bread111[m]> How much memory does my computer have to have in order to run Monero?