03:17:48 <kolosca[m]> Hi all
03:17:53 <kolosca[m]> There is more Matrix rooms?
05:46:55 <ofrnxmr[m]> Join my space Monero https://matrix.to/#/#monerospace:monero.social
05:49:35 <narf> ok
06:21:26 <DanIsnotthemanBr> not enough space
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12:03:51 <kopperbed[m]> why do people use bitcoin mixers
12:04:01 <kopperbed[m]> isn't it better to just convert to monero and convert back to bitcoin? 
12:07:58 <plowsof11> have you had your coffee yet ofrnxmr , theres a 'use monero as a condom' question again 
12:08:21 <ofrnxmr[m]> Coffee?
12:08:27 <ofrnxmr[m]> Im go time 247
12:09:30 <plowsof11> lol
12:09:43 <DanIsnotthemanBr> Talking about whirlpool?
12:09:44 <ofrnxmr[m]> <kopperbed[m]> "isn't it better to just convert..." <- kopperbed: no
12:10:10 <ofrnxmr[m]> <kopperbed[m]> "why do people use bitcoin mixers" <- Because they like to have sex with with broken condoms 
12:10:11 <ofrnxmr[m]> Purposely 
12:10:28 <ofrnxmr[m]> Lets use the expired ones that disintegrate on contact 
12:15:16 <kopperbed[m]> <ofrnxmr[m]> "kopperbed: no" <- retard 
12:18:27 <plowsof11> well thats a nice response to someone answering your question isn't it
12:19:46 <ofrnxmr[m]> kopperbed: says the guy with ELI5 questions 
12:20:59 <ofrnxmr[m]> I ELI5 for you
12:21:09 <ofrnxmr[m]> Need a better explanation than that?
12:21:16 <kopperbed[m]> plowsof11: his answer to my question was "because they like to have sex with broken condoms" 
12:21:40 <kopperbed[m]> you could have just said that ppl using bitcoin mixers are mislead and should be converting to xmr instead 
12:21:54 <ofrnxmr[m]> And that is a PERFECT analogy  
12:21:55 <kopperbed[m]> s/mislead/misled/
12:22:02 <plowsof11> did you obtain that answer after reading the response?
12:22:03 <ofrnxmr[m]> They arent mislead 
12:22:10 <kopperbed[m]> ofrnxmr[m]: ppl having sex with broken condoms aren't misled. 
12:22:12 <ofrnxmr[m]> They CHOOSE to use BROKEN shir
12:22:16 <kopperbed[m]> they are just retarded 
12:22:21 <ofrnxmr[m]> Cmon now.
12:22:22 <ofrnxmr[m]> They KNOW its broken
12:22:23 <plowsof11> did you 'ascertain' that lol
12:22:33 <ofrnxmr[m]> Ghats why coinjoin exists
12:22:43 <kopperbed[m]> ofrnxmr[m]: okay if ppl using bitcoin mixers know its broken and use it anyway
12:22:46 <kopperbed[m]> then yeah ur analogy stands
12:22:48 <ofrnxmr[m]> Was coinjoin created because bitcoin WORKS? 
12:22:57 <kopperbed[m]> i assumed they weren't self sabotaging masochists 
12:22:59 <ofrnxmr[m]> They know bitcoin doesnt woek
12:23:19 <ofrnxmr[m]> Do monero tunnels exist because coinjoin works? They know xoinjoin doesnt work
12:23:28 <ofrnxmr[m]> They just wont let the dream die
12:23:38 <ofrnxmr[m]> Here at monero, we do reality 
12:23:50 <kopperbed[m]> still seems odd to me
12:23:54 <ofrnxmr[m]> We dont pretend things dont exist. We implement them
12:24:02 <kopperbed[m]> what's their opinion on monero? 
12:24:14 <ofrnxmr[m]> That its a shitcoin with infinite supply 
12:24:15 <kopperbed[m]> if you suggest using monero to someone who uses a btc mixer, what's their response?
12:24:27 <plowsof11> with tiny anon set
12:24:40 <ofrnxmr[m]> That is subject to inflation bugs
12:24:46 <ofrnxmr[m]> And will be quantum killed 
12:24:53 <kopperbed[m]> ofrnxmr[m]: yeah this is kinda the answer i was looking for. that users of btc mixers don't trust monero so they stick with bitcoin 
12:24:55 <ofrnxmr[m]> Meanwhile bitcoin is already dead 
12:25:00 <ofrnxmr[m]> As a protocol, that is
12:25:08 <ofrnxmr[m]> Its price means nothing.
12:25:33 <ofrnxmr[m]> Bitcoin has purposely sold dreams. Biggest rug in history
12:26:10 <ofrnxmr[m]> Cant support mining operations with tx fees. Bitcoin people all say "we dont know what will happen". Its simple matj
12:26:20 <kopperbed[m]> are there any reputable monero to bitcoin converters that don't transfer out dirty bitcoin?
12:26:31 <monerobull[m]1> I like how they are hating on the nfts rn
12:26:34 <ofrnxmr[m]> Yes, Fixedfloat 
12:26:44 <monerobull[m]1> Use it with trocador 
12:26:47 <ofrnxmr[m]> They screen bitcoin so you always get clean stuff 
12:26:48 <kopperbed[m]> I have quite a bit of money in xmr and I want to cash out a little in btc. 
12:26:53 <kopperbed[m]> monerobull[m]1: thanks 
12:26:59 <monerobull[m]1> And my referral code 🫣
12:27:07 <kopperbed[m]> ofrnxmr[m]: i take back what i said earlier ;) 
12:27:20 <ofrnxmr[m]> In trocsdor, select Fixedfloat at the bottom of the trade setup screen 
12:27:59 <plowsof11> btc maxis themselves do not recommend cleaning btc with anything as it doesnt work
12:28:08 <kopperbed[m]> ofrnxmr[m]: what does screening btc mean exactly? for users that are the opposite of me. (wanting to go from btc to xmr) 
12:28:32 <kopperbed[m]> plowsof11: isn't converting btc to xmr a way of cleaning it? 
12:28:56 <ofrnxmr[m]> Its a way of having clean moneyb
12:29:11 <ofrnxmr[m]> Indirectly, yes.
12:29:16 <plowsof11> doesn't work 
12:29:18 <monerobull[m]1> If dirty, deny swap
12:29:19 <monerobull[m]1> https://trocador.app/step1/?ref=YFJL36Szy7
12:29:20 <plowsof11> too many pitfalls, and an outside observer (analysis etc) can see whats going on
12:29:23 <ofrnxmr[m]> Since selling a dirty gun for cash is a way of cleaning it, sort of
12:29:37 <kopperbed[m]> plowsof11: how? 
12:29:45 <kopperbed[m]> $5000 in btc to xmr. 
12:30:05 <plowsof11> and then back to btc?
12:30:07 <kopperbed[m]> then u send that xmr to several different wallets
12:30:08 <kopperbed[m]> churn a few times
12:30:12 <kopperbed[m]> how is that gonna be traced? 
12:30:21 <plowsof11> are you returning to btc?
12:30:39 <ofrnxmr[m]> Sending btc = Monero service biz have to do more due diligence 
12:30:39 <kopperbed[m]> after churning several times to diff wallets
12:30:46 <ofrnxmr[m]> s/Monero/money**/
12:30:53 <plowsof11> so then 5000$ in btc would appear randomly again?
12:31:04 <kopperbed[m]> plowsof11: uh no
12:31:16 <kopperbed[m]> let me rewrite everything more cleary.
12:31:18 <ofrnxmr[m]> If you just buy monero, and use Monero, np
12:31:22 <kopperbed[m]> s/cleary./clearly/
12:31:52 <ofrnxmr[m]> If you go but some shitcoin with a specific value at a specific point in time later on, you walk back out into the line of fire
12:32:15 <ofrnxmr[m]> And are known tl have had x amount of Monero now tied to your Bitcoin via the trade 
12:32:16 <kopperbed[m]> $5000 dollars in btc. converted to xmr. then send to several different wallets in different amounts of money. churned several times over a few week time period. then small amounts of monero are converted back to btc and cashed out at BATMS. 
12:32:31 <ofrnxmr[m]> Last step
12:32:46 <monerobull[m]1> BTC ATM does kyc
12:32:49 <ofrnxmr[m]> You trade monero for btc. Fixedfloat knows this and KNOWS your btc and where tour btc goes
12:32:56 <monerobull[m]1> Just do xmr to cash via localmonero 
12:32:57 <plowsof11> also "several different wallets" ?
12:32:58 <kopperbed[m]> monerobull[m]1: not all.
12:33:07 <kopperbed[m]> I live in the USA. no kyc at the BATMS near me 
12:33:16 <ofrnxmr[m]> Fixedfloat will send change to your wallet and will know a lot of your outputs as inputs they sent you
12:33:18 <plowsof11> cctv and time stamps ?
12:33:18 <monerobull[m]1> But what, 20% fee?
12:33:25 <ofrnxmr[m]> Tldr
12:33:26 <ofrnxmr[m]> Buy monero
12:33:40 <kopperbed[m]> monerobull[m]1: yeah like 10-15% fee
12:33:41 <kopperbed[m]> pretty fucked
12:33:43 <ofrnxmr[m]> ofrnxmr[m]: Period
12:33:44 <monerobull[m]1> So localmonero then
12:33:46 <plowsof11> do you think the atm has timestamps that could be correlated with cameras in the area 
12:33:55 <kopperbed[m]> ofrnxmr[m]: i have the opposite problem. I have monero. i just need to cash out 
12:34:01 <ofrnxmr[m]> Maybe. Spend it on not-crypto
12:34:03 <monerobull[m]1> Localmomero 
12:34:09 <ofrnxmr[m]> s/.//, s/Spend/spend/
12:34:18 <plowsof11> yep
12:34:19 <ofrnxmr[m]> monerobull[m]1: ^
12:34:27 <monerobull[m]1> ofrnxmr[m]: Buy weed, sell to friends 🤷‍♂️
12:34:51 <monerobull[m]1> (((if legal)))
12:34:57 <plowsof11> and pronounce monero like "mon" - "ero"
12:35:11 <monerobull[m]1> Mon aro
12:35:21 <kopperbed[m]> plowsof11: first off. I'd do my best to avoid facial recognition but second of all. why should i worry about being identified? My bitcoin woulndt be dirty anyway
12:35:33 <kopperbed[m]> it would just be known as bitcoin that was converted from monero
12:35:38 <ofrnxmr[m]> So why churn?
12:35:56 <ofrnxmr[m]> If you have nothing to hide, xmr isnt illegal
12:36:08 <kopperbed[m]> churn because in this hypothetical scenario. the 5k in btc is dirty 
12:36:16 <monerobull[m]1> Just sell it on kraken then
12:36:18 <kopperbed[m]> im talking about cleaning 5k in btc 
12:36:20 <kopperbed[m]> by converting to xmr
12:36:25 <monerobull[m]1> I thought you already have xmr
12:36:25 <ofrnxmr[m]> kopperbed[m]: Well then youre in trouble 
12:36:25 <kopperbed[m]> receiving clean btc back
12:36:27 <kopperbed[m]> and then cashing out
12:36:40 <ofrnxmr[m]> Dont use monero as a mixer for your shitcoin 
12:36:41 <monerobull[m]1> Your problem will be the convesion 
12:36:54 <monerobull[m]1> The first one
12:37:01 <ofrnxmr[m]> Convert to cash directly or carry the risk
12:37:04 <kopperbed[m]> monerobull[m]1: will they automatically block the btc? 
12:37:12 <plowsof11> the process is one way - no returns accepted
12:37:16 <ofrnxmr[m]> monerobull[m]1: Majestic probably accepts dirty BTC 
12:37:20 <ofrnxmr[m]> As does bisq im sure 
12:37:31 <ofrnxmr[m]> And atomic swaps
12:37:38 <monerobull[m]1> ofrnxmr[m]: That's their whole selling point 🗿
12:38:26 <ofrnxmr[m]> Which is why I manually select exchange partners on trocador LOL. I dont need my btc mixed with or coming from a dirty pool
12:38:34 <kopperbed[m]> and how does majestic clean the dirty btc that they receive lol 
12:38:47 <monerobull[m]1> Russian magic I'd assume 
12:38:48 <ofrnxmr[m]> They dont 
12:39:05 <ofrnxmr[m]> Some people accept dirty btc because laws dont give a shit 
12:39:16 <ofrnxmr[m]> Other places are kyc'd to hell
12:39:22 <monerobull[m]1> Disclaimer, i don't know anything about majestic other than they are well liked by r/Darknet
12:40:05 <ofrnxmr[m]> Disclsimer: I cant prove they accept dirty btc because ive never had any to text with 🥸
12:40:08 <ofrnxmr[m]> Test*
13:18:28 <goblin[m]> Hello. What are the risks of using a remote node vs downloading the whole blockchain?
13:25:58 <goblin[m]> <ofrnxmr[m]> "Some people accept dirty btc..." <- what happens when they try to cash out?
13:34:07 <Rucknium[m]> goblin: Remote nodes can see when you are syncing your wallet. They also know which transaction is yours since you submitted it to them. Knowing your transaction isn't very useful since so much of the info in the transaction is encrypted.
13:42:51 <goblin[m]> <Rucknium[m]> "goblin: Remote nodes can see..." <- who runs the majority of the remote nodes? volunteers? 
13:44:48 <Rucknium[m]> I don't know. If you are concerned, you can connect with a remote node that is run by someone who people "trust". But if you're going to use  a trustless protocol, then run your own node and only trust yourself.
13:44:58 <ofrnxmr[m]> A remote node = any node that is not yours 
13:45:15 <ofrnxmr[m]> Aka the opposite of a local node
13:46:10 <ofrnxmr[m]> But I think I understand the q.
13:46:10 <ofrnxmr[m]> Some shitcoins have 90%, nodes run by the core team.
13:46:10 <ofrnxmr[m]> Not the case here. We are very decentralized 
13:46:45 <monerobull[m]1> Monero.fail listed nearly 12k nodes last time i checked 
13:48:05 <monerobull[m]1> I feel like we have more outside of the US&EU since 2 years ago
13:48:18 <monerobull[m]1> s/since/than/
13:49:28 <ofrnxmr[m]> If you are looking for a node to connect your wallet to, the majority of publicly available ones are 100% untrusted. 
13:49:28 <ofrnxmr[m]> Large nodes of well known community members are "trusted".
13:49:28 <ofrnxmr[m]> Most people dont manually advertise wallet capabilities of their node.  Those who did, are often malicious 
13:50:04 <ofrnxmr[m]> Tldr
13:50:04 <ofrnxmr[m]> Use a node you run or one you trust wont try to mess with your tx
13:50:33 <goblin[m]> what are the risks of connecting to a random persons node if you are using whonix? 
13:51:27 <ofrnxmr[m]> That they might choose to not relay your tx, serve you different decoys, change your fee so it stands out 
13:51:46 <goblin[m]> ofrnxmr[m]: wtf
13:51:51 <monerobull[m]1> Change your fee to 50 xmr
13:52:10 <goblin[m]> why would they fuck with me like that? i dont see how they can make money from it 
13:52:27 <monerobull[m]1> Bcs they are angry at monero 
13:52:47 <ofrnxmr[m]> Because they like seeing you poor
13:53:00 <goblin[m]> how does one host their own remote node? is it as simple as renting a vps server, paid in monero? 
13:53:10 <ofrnxmr[m]> Same reason people send unlock times of XXX years
13:53:18 <ofrnxmr[m]> goblin[m]: You dont need a vps
13:53:26 <ofrnxmr[m]> PC, ssd 
13:53:40 <goblin[m]> yeah but i dont want to be identified as a monero user
13:53:43 <ofrnxmr[m]> Android, rockpro
13:53:44 <monerobull[m]1> I host my own node but it's open for everyone 
13:53:49 <ofrnxmr[m]> goblin[m]: Tor
13:53:50 <goblin[m]> i live in an authoritarian country 
13:54:16 <ofrnxmr[m]> I think whonix has monero in repo
13:54:16 <monerobull[m]1> You could use cakewallet nodes
13:54:18 <goblin[m]> monerobull[m]1: for free? 
13:54:29 <goblin[m]> ofrnxmr[m]: yeah its preinstalled
13:54:45 <monerobull[m]1> They are as trusted as it gets 
13:54:45 <ofrnxmr[m]> monerobull[m]1: Cake has an official onion node now
13:54:46 <monerobull[m]1> Yes
13:54:47 <monerobull[m]1> I saw
13:54:55 <monerobull[m]1> It appeared in my wallet 
13:55:10 <goblin[m]> besides monero documentation, where is the best place to read up on more information about xmr? 
13:55:31 <ofrnxmr[m]> Depends what youre looking for
13:56:07 <goblin[m]> ofrnxmr[m]: what are the options? 
13:56:16 <goblin[m]> of stuff i can be looking for
13:56:16 <ofrnxmr[m]> Breakingmonero on YouTube,  monerotopia speeches from last year, also yt
13:56:40 <ofrnxmr[m]> Not sure. Monero is pretty basic and easy to use.
13:56:48 <goblin[m]> true
13:56:53 <ofrnxmr[m]> Getmonero.org. dont use untrusted wallets etc
13:57:01 <monerobull[m]1> There are at least 2 books
13:57:08 <goblin[m]> untrusted wallets? 
13:57:22 <monerobull[m]1> Like xmrwallet.com, scam
13:57:35 <monerobull[m]1> Or freewallet
13:57:36 <goblin[m]> I didn't there was such thing as untrusted wallets and trusted wallets 
13:57:36 <monerobull[m]1> Scam
13:57:57 <monerobull[m]1> Untrusted wallets are just scam wallets
13:58:11 <ofrnxmr[m]> Monero.com and stack wallet are the only 2 wallets not listed that you should be able to trust
13:58:26 <ofrnxmr[m]> Not listed on getmonero*
13:58:44 <goblin[m]> why doesn't everyone just use monero's official gui wallet
13:58:52 <ofrnxmr[m]> Mobile
13:58:53 <goblin[m]> and electrum wallet for btc
13:59:01 <goblin[m]> ah
13:59:11 <ofrnxmr[m]> Feather is more powerful, stack desktop is multicoin 
13:59:13 <goblin[m]> ofrnxmr[m]: well i guess you've covered mobile with cakewallet right? 
13:59:32 <goblin[m]> ofrnxmr[m]: in what ways?
13:59:41 <ofrnxmr[m]> Cake, monero.com, stackwallet, monerujo
13:59:58 <ofrnxmr[m]> goblin[m]: Same way cli is more powerful than gui
14:00:37 <ofrnxmr[m]> Feather has access to more advanced features vis the gui.
14:00:37 <ofrnxmr[m]> Monero gui is basic 
14:01:10 <goblin[m]> what do you guys think of the btc users that say btc lightning is more private than regular btc 
14:01:13 <goblin[m]> is this just cope?
14:01:25 <goblin[m]> or is there any truth to btc lightning being more private than regular xmr
14:01:28 <goblin[m]> s/xmr/btc/
14:04:34 <ofrnxmr[m]> Centralized cope 
14:04:56 <ofrnxmr[m]> goblin[m]: It is, sort of
14:05:11 <goblin[m]> ofrnxmr[m]: in what ways? 
14:05:23 <goblin[m]> so it's cope and true?
14:05:25 <ofrnxmr[m]> Trading centralization for pseudo privacy 
14:07:32 <Rucknium[m]> goblin: 
14:07:37 <Rucknium[m]> https://moneroresearch.info/index.php?action=resource_RESOURCEVIEW_CORE&id=84
14:07:37 <Rucknium[m]> https://moneroresearch.info/index.php?action=resource_RESOURCEVIEW_CORE&id=130
14:07:37 <Rucknium[m]> https://moneroresearch.info/index.php?action=resource_RESOURCEVIEW_CORE&id=86
14:07:37 <Rucknium[m]> https://moneroresearch.info/index.php?action=resource_RESOURCEVIEW_CORE&id=120
14:07:45 <goblin[m]> thanks! 
14:07:56 <Rucknium[m]> ^ Some papers about Lightning's privacy problems
14:08:11 <goblin[m]> im going to read this right now
18:44:42 <XMRPriest[m]> Anyone working on a nostr relay or client that would use monero as the form of payments rather then lightning ?
18:45:39 <Rucknium[m]> XMR Priest: Mitra for ActivityPub
18:46:24 <Rucknium[m]> Dev Silverpill is in #monero-community-dev:monero.social 
18:52:19 <goodcat[m]> hello. need some help with my local node, monerod is not running anymore (used to be)
18:54:13 <goodcat[m]> when i start it manually with 
18:54:13 <goodcat[m]> monerod --config-file /etc/monerod.conf
18:54:27 <goodcat[m]> ill get
18:54:29 <goodcat[m]> 2023-02-01 18:50:51.725	E Exception in main! boost::filesystem::status: Permission denied [system:13]: "/mnt/Monero/lmdb"
18:54:54 <xfedex[m]> make sure the "Monero" partition is actually mounted
18:56:36 <goodcat[m]> ye it is
18:57:02 <goodcat[m]> sudo ls -l /mnt/Monero
18:57:03 <goodcat[m]> -rw------- 1 monero monero 22327010 31. Jan 20:31 bitmonero.log... (full message at <https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/libera.chat/e6051af1b65e567a0f049c4214c99743580e396f>)
18:58:17 <DanIsnotthemanBr> Owner of monerod?
18:58:55 <goodcat[m]> root root
18:59:05 <goodcat[m]> wait
18:59:19 <goodcat[m]> /etc/monerod.conf is root root
19:00:00 <goodcat[m]> /usr/bin/monerod root root
19:07:48 <Rucknium[m]> goodcat: Did you run monerod as root last time? Not a good idea. Now you have to change permissions on the monero database file or always run monerod as root. I think.
19:08:53 <hyc> yeah, the code is generally secure but I'd never launch it as root
19:09:37 <DanIsnotthemanBr> In general better to not use privilege user
19:10:25 <goodcat[m]> well monerod ran with systemctl so i dont know how to answer this question
19:10:46 <goodcat[m]> i didnt change anything
19:10:56 <llacqie[m]> you probably set wrong user in your systemd service
19:11:22 <goodcat[m]> maybe i need to add the user to monero group?
19:11:56 <DanIsnotthemanBr> Why not use systemctl to start it?
19:11:57 <goodcat[m]> i do
19:12:11 <DanIsnotthemanBr> Also monero user needs to be owner
19:12:32 <DanIsnotthemanBr> Also what user are you using in systemd service?
19:12:38 <llacqie[m]> you probably should change your systemd service that it will run monerod as monero user
19:13:04 <goodcat[m]> DanIsnotthemanBr: iam not sure what you mean
19:13:27 <goodcat[m]> llacqie[m]: how i gonna do this 🙄
19:13:32 <hyc> the .service file should specify what user to launch as
19:13:45 <plowsof11> Rtfm from seth
19:14:40 <goodcat[m]> hyc: didnt know this is possible
19:15:20 <goodcat[m]> so its gonna be like "systemctl --user enable monerod.service
19:15:22 <goodcat[m]> "
19:15:38 <DanIsnotthemanBr> What os?
19:15:42 <goodcat[m]> arch
19:16:21 <llacqie[m]> goodcat-[m]: No
19:17:02 <llacqie[m]> https://wiki.debian.org/systemd/Services
19:17:24 <goodcat[m]> newb here 🫠
19:17:37 <plowsof11> The steps will be similar but not exact for your OS https://sethforprivacy.com/guides/run-a-monero-node-advanced/
19:17:53 <DanIsnotthemanBr> https://sethforprivacy.com/guides/run-a-monero-node-advanced/
19:18:13 <DanIsnotthemanBr> Scroll to system d
19:26:46 <goodcat[m]> not sure about this part
19:26:47 <goodcat[m]> PIDFile=/var/run/monero/monerod.pid
19:26:56 <goodcat[m]> as i have to no pid file in /var/run/
19:28:10 <llacqie[m]> User=monero
19:28:26 <llacqie[m]> about this line
19:28:38 <goodcat[m]> ye
19:31:34 <Rucknium[m]> General question: are there any drawbacks to running monerod as just yourself (current user), without systemctl?
19:31:57 <goodcat[m]> systemctl is creating "/etc/systemd/system/monerod.service"
19:32:20 <goodcat[m]> there i have User=monero Group=monero
19:33:01 <goodcat[m]> *its in /etc/systemd/system/multi-user.target.wants
19:34:00 <goodcat[m]> if i start monerod without pointed to the config file its working fine
19:34:23 <goodcat[m]> it must be something about the directory?
19:34:32 <DanIsnotthemanBr> >/etc/monerod.conf is root root
19:34:32 <DanIsnotthemanBr> >/usr/bin/monerod root root
19:34:32 <DanIsnotthemanBr> Needs monero:monero
19:34:41 <goodcat[m]> both?
19:35:05 <DanIsnotthemanBr> If systemd runs it then yeah cause thats what execing it
19:35:25 <goodcat[m]> not sure why it ran in the past then..
19:37:15 <goodcat[m]> not working
19:39:27 <goodcat[m]> can some point me the permission for your database folder
19:39:47 <goodcat[m]> like dwrx-rx--- etc.
19:40:30 <goodcat[m]> ls -l /mnt/monero
19:40:35 <goodcat[m]> -rw------- 1 monero monero 22331525  1. Feb 20:36 bitmonero.log... (full message at <https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/libera.chat/7db35bbd1ef3833591cff8ea394656d82a832e46>)
19:42:44 <Rucknium[m]> goodcat: Go to #monero-support:monero.social 
19:43:42 <goodcat[m]> aight
19:43:55 <goodcat[m]> thx for your help so far
20:41:03 <alphacharlie[m]> Can someone donate me a few xmr? 🫥
20:47:48 <plowsof11> have you done anything to benefit this community?
20:57:25 <kolosca[m]> <alphacharlie[m]> "Can someone donate me a few xmr?..." <- .
23:10:23 <mawk> wow the network is fast tonight
23:11:23 <mawk> 5 confirmations in a minute