06:42:07 <opsoyo[m]> What's your prefered way to package cash by mail?
08:29:16 <ErCiccione> New blog post on getmonero.org: https://www.getmonero.org/2023/02/02/seraphis-jamtis-developer-opportunities.html
09:00:19 <cockliuser[m]> There's a Peter Schiff clone on the Monero /biz/ thread
09:00:31 <cockliuser[m]> From the thread: https://vocaroo.com/15CV9WGfCy0S
09:02:39 <cockliuser[m]> Ai generated it seems
09:11:53 <opsoyo[m]> <cockliuser[m]> "Ai generated it seems" <- Probably using Eleven Labs
10:52:33 <cockliuser[m]> Monero on-chain 4MB NFTs when :P
10:54:34 <monerobull[m]1> <opsoyo[m]> "Probably using Eleven Labs" <- made two videos with that
10:55:01 <monerobull[m]1> https://youtu.be/96vyHj4VKn8
11:41:25 <Guest11> hi
11:42:00 <Guest11> what is the difference between hardcoded nodes on inl file and --add-peer
11:51:38 <philnthropic[m]> https://youtu.be/x5sc7G4s4CY
11:51:38 <philnthropic[m]> Must see video! Totally exposes the big pharma based conspiracy.
12:08:29 <plowsof11> phil.n.thropic unrelated to Monero , no thanks
12:11:21 <Guest11> philnthropic  nothing new we all now that
12:11:30 <Guest11> monero users i mean
12:11:55 <Guest11> because monero do not trust!
12:12:03 <Guest11> monero users sorry
12:12:58 <Guest11> only fiat idiots trust goverments and the rest
12:13:32 <plowsof11> lol
12:22:28 <Guest11> what is the difference between hardcoded nodes on inl file and --add-peer
12:22:56 <plowsof11> what is an inl file 
12:23:58 <Guest11> full_addrs.insert("212.83.175.67:18080");
12:23:58 <Guest11>       full_addrs.insert("212.83.172.165:18080");
12:24:49 <plowsof11> can you confirm if those ips have angry face or smiley face https://github.com/plowsof/check-monero-seed-nodes
12:25:39 <Guest11> hmm they are off right
12:25:45 <Guest11> angry face
12:25:58 <plowsof11> what is the real question? you noticed some errors about those ips being offline?
12:27:49 <Guest11> no has nothing to do with this nodes just if there is a difference on connection if i do --add-peer or just use inl file as is
12:29:07 <plowsof11> i do not know the answer to this, but i assume add-peer will just += the hard coded list 
12:29:36 <plowsof11> and then another assumption: add-exclusive-node will ignore the seed nodes selsta?
12:45:41 <selsta> Guest11: --add-peer adds a node to your peer list, that's it
12:47:28 <selsta> peer list is not the same as the hardcoded seed nodes in the source code
12:47:50 <selsta> you can use --seed-node if you want to specify your own seed node instead of relying on hardcoded ones
12:51:18 <Guest11> what happen if dns servers goes down
12:51:45 <Guest11> monero will connect to hardcoded?
12:56:52 <plowsof11> research what dns means first then ask 
13:14:53 <plowsof11> assuming it will just treat is as being unable to resolve 
13:21:05 <ofrnxmr[m]> @kick
14:58:26 <pineappleapplesa> what are the best remote nodes to connect to for monero?
14:58:38 <pineappleapplesa> im planning on using tor 
14:58:51 <plowsof11> monero.fail , experiment 
14:59:49 <ofrnxmr[m]> pineappleapplesa: If you use cakes wallet, they have an onion
15:00:04 <pineappleapplesa> ofrnxmr[m]: i dont use cake wallet 
15:00:16 <pineappleapplesa> can i still use their nodes even if i use the default monero app? 
15:00:28 <ofrnxmr[m]> Yea, but you'll need to type it out lolooolooool
15:00:41 <pineappleapplesa> that doesnt seen taht bad on pc
15:00:49 <pineappleapplesa> so i guess ill use cakewallet 
15:00:52 <pineappleapplesa> thanks guys 
15:00:54 <ofrnxmr[m]> Not sure if cakes onion link is posted publicly anywhere 
15:01:07 <pineappleapplesa> what should i do if it isnt?
15:01:10 <pineappleapplesa> how do i find it
15:01:12 <plowsof11> on feathers list erm
15:01:19 <ofrnxmr[m]> ^^
15:01:28 <pineappleapplesa> feather wallet has a list of nodes?
15:01:31 <pineappleapplesa> thanks 
15:01:39 <ofrnxmr[m]> Thats right. Feather has a list of community trusted onion modes
15:02:01 <plowsof11> https://github.com/feather-wallet/feather/blob/99653419768b143d3d8877003228639b866b87f9/src/assets/nodes.json#L14
15:03:03 <pineappleapplesa> anybody know if there are any risks to using monero exclusively on whonix? many ppl tell me that this is the most private way to use monero 
15:03:10 <pineappleapplesa> but they dont tell me what the drawbacks may be
15:03:28 <selsta> slower wallet sync
15:05:34 <cockliuser[m]> ofrnxmr[m]: Technically couldn't you just connect to a non-onion node over TOR? 
15:06:11 <pineappleapplesa> cockliuser[m]: but why would u do that
15:06:11 <pineappleapplesa> if u can just use an onion node instead
15:06:18 <cockliuser[m]> Would be faster than an onion node and anonymity would be the same since onion nodes have 6 relays instead of 3
15:06:23 <ofrnxmr[m]> > <@pineappleapplesauce[m]:libera.chat> > <@cockliuser:matrix.org> Technically couldn't you just connect to a non-onion node over TOR?
15:06:23 <ofrnxmr[m]> > 
15:06:23 <ofrnxmr[m]> > but why would u do that
15:06:23 <ofrnxmr[m]> Its a bit faster 
15:06:28 <pineappleapplesa> selsta: well besides the obvious like that lol 
15:06:31 <plowsof11> leaving meta data because you feel like taking risks and enjoy slow sync speeds 
15:06:41 <plowsof11> then tor to clearnode is fine
15:06:54 <pineappleapplesa> cockliuser[m]: yeah every tor user knows this
15:07:08 <pineappleapplesa> anonymity wouldnt be the same
15:07:12 <cockliuser[m]> The three relays are there to obscure the node's address, if you want hide yourself you'd just need three relays
15:07:19 <pineappleapplesa> onions are significantly safer than relying on just your 3 hops
15:07:20 <cockliuser[m]> * The extra three relays
15:07:23 <plowsof11> feather syncs over clear net initially by default 
15:09:34 <pineappleapplesa> can churning be done with the same wallet app? by sending to different wallets on the same app? or is it better to churn by sending xmr to a different wallet on a different app
15:09:46 <pineappleapplesa> i want to churn all within the same whonix vm
15:10:07 <pineappleapplesa> but dont know if this would be the best way of going about this since my ip will be the same even if im sending to different addresses 
15:13:53 <ofrnxmr[m]> If you use an onion your ip doesnt matter 
15:15:44 <ofrnxmr[m]> As I said to someone else, I sell NY drugs on facebook
15:15:49 <ofrnxmr[m]> So I cant help ya with paranoia or sus opsec needs
15:16:24 <Rucknium[m]> pineappleapplesauce: You can send to the same address. It will look different every time on the blockchain. That's what a Stealth Address does.
15:18:35 <Rucknium[m]> Is churning really a good idea? We don't know yet.
15:20:18 <pineappleapplesa> ofrnxmr[m]: why do u sell drugs on facebook lol
15:20:20 <pineappleapplesa> tell ur customers to switch to another platform 
15:26:34 <great_taste> customers dont wanna leave the comfort zone
15:29:14 <pineappleapplesa> say goodbye to their comfort zone when they're locked in a cell
15:30:11 <plowsof11> without a laptop or IRC access ! dramatic music
15:30:21 <plowsof11> scared straight 
15:32:25 <pineappleapplesa> plowsof11: thats scary as fuck
15:32:39 <pineappleapplesa> whats the best way of using irc on whonix?
15:32:42 <pineappleapplesa> hexchat? 
15:32:46 <pineappleapplesa> comes preinstalled
15:42:11 <cockliuser[m]> Isn't whonix Linux based? 
15:42:13 <cockliuser[m]> https://tools.suckless.org/ii/
15:42:25 <cockliuser[m]> :)
15:52:48 <ofrnxmr[m]> <great_taste> "customers dont wanna leave the..." <- + hundred of thousands of drug deals are done everyday on Facebook. 
15:52:48 <ofrnxmr[m]> Feds are more concerned about whonix drug dealers and finding ways to catch the people who try their hardest to hide 
15:53:39 <pineappleapplesa> > <@ofrnxmr:monero.social> + hundred of thousands of drug deals are done everyday on Facebook. 
15:53:39 <pineappleapplesa> > Feds are more concerned about whonix drug dealers and finding ways to catch the people who try their hardest to hide
15:53:39 <pineappleapplesa> not really
15:53:47 <pineappleapplesa> they're concerned about those that are making millions
15:54:02 <ofrnxmr[m]> Example.. if you feds, would you target WhatsApp users? Or signal users?
15:54:11 <pineappleapplesa> both
15:54:15 <ofrnxmr[m]> Billions of users? Or a few thousand criminals?
15:54:39 <pineappleapplesa> LOL 
15:54:40 <ofrnxmr[m]> The 7 people who use zcash? Or the hundreds of thousands who who btc?
15:54:40 <pineappleapplesa> not all signal users are criminals
15:54:40 <pineappleapplesa> most criminals dont even use signal 
15:54:48 <pineappleapplesa> most use telegram even tho its unencrypted by default 
15:54:49 <ofrnxmr[m]> pineappleapplesa: Never said they were
15:54:51 <pineappleapplesa> but i get ur point
15:54:56 <ofrnxmr[m]> Im saying there is far, far less noise on signal 
15:55:03 <pineappleapplesa> i still dont think thats how stuff works 
15:55:14 <ofrnxmr[m]> You dont know how feds work then
15:55:18 <pineappleapplesa> if u were snitched on and your facebook @ was given to the police
15:55:22 <pineappleapplesa> they'd make an easy arrest
15:56:01 <pineappleapplesa> you've been protected by luck and the fact that you are probably small fish to them
15:56:03 <ofrnxmr[m]> No they wouldnt 
15:56:05 <ofrnxmr[m]> People do crimes on Facebook and Instagram LIVE all the time lolol
15:56:49 <pineappleapplesa> yeah but the people committing crimes on social media are a protected victim class 
15:57:12 <ofrnxmr[m]> Walking around free as we speak, feds know, feds dont give a flying fuck about these no opsec no threat users 
15:57:20 <ofrnxmr[m]> pineappleapplesa: Luck my ass
15:57:21 <ofrnxmr[m]> What on saying isnt speculative, its a fact 
15:57:21 <ofrnxmr[m]> Users of specific services are MADE TO BE targets 
15:58:35 <pineappleapplesa> ofrnxmr[m]: yeah thats true. but using unencrypted messaging platforms to conduct illegal activity is a bigger risk
15:59:19 <ofrnxmr[m]> People plan murders on Facebook and get away with it easier than silkroad
16:01:06 <pineappleapplesa> ur still better off using encrypted platforms 
16:01:06 <ofrnxmr[m]> Anyway, this has nothing to do with monero. What im saying is the feds focus on and specifically target specific usersbases
16:01:19 <ofrnxmr[m]> They dont give a shit about WhatsApp, they give a shit about WhatsApp users who also have signal 
16:01:39 <pineappleapplesa> yeah but that doesnt change the fact that users are still better off using encrypted messenging platforms than unencrypted
16:01:52 <ofrnxmr[m]> Wrong...
16:01:59 <ofrnxmr[m]> If they never look at you, youre never a target 
16:02:08 <ofrnxmr[m]> Errrr
16:02:25 <ofrnxmr[m]> Of course encryption is important, I dont mean to say it isnt 
16:02:41 <ofrnxmr[m]> But even monero p2p network isnt encrypted lol 
16:04:00 <ofrnxmr[m]> Ideally everybody should use and have UX friendly access to high opsec services 
16:05:10 <ofrnxmr[m]> Normalizing high opsec leads to plausible deniability. But as long as high opsec is the minority, you ARE the target
16:05:48 <ofrnxmr[m]> Example being pre 2012 encryption wars. If you used encryption on your devices, you were a target or even made out to be a criminal
16:08:31 <ofrnxmr[m]> These days, its perfectly normal for everyday users to use encrypted services without even knowing. Example being full disk encryption on phones and PCs, https etc.
16:13:28 <sech1> and NordVPN!!!111
16:14:30 <sech1> although they know when they use VPNs
16:20:07 <nioc> <ofrnxmr[m]> They dont give a shit about WhatsApp, they give a shit about WhatsApp users who also have signal <<>> damn, what have I done to people?  o_0
16:28:47 <plowsof11> product placement is key 
17:14:36 <Jack[m]> Has anyone given it thought to how good of an actor Vitalik Buterin could be? Making everyone think he is "mentally retarded". It seems as if that somehow gives him the ability to run a business, which is getting political, real quick.
17:14:37 <Jack[m]> Are we becoming a business too?
17:34:39 <apotheon> Jack[m]: What does that question even mean?
17:37:51 <ofrnxmr[m]> Not sure I want to know 🙃
17:43:38 <plowsof11> in a round about way jacks calling us retarded 
18:24:50 <great_taste> s/retarded/autistic 
18:25:42 <great_taste> elon musk also plays schizo-autistic to seem smart
18:41:24 <philnthropic[m]> <ofrnxmr[m]> "If they never look at you, youre..." <- But they are looking at everyone using tireless A.I. eyes.
18:44:39 <great_taste> they're only able to enforce their bs on 3.5% of the population
19:01:44 <Cryptoman[m]> Hello
19:43:40 <lasthayek[m]> Where are all the original people?
19:45:24 <raas[m]> lasthayek[m]: In the Bitcoin community
19:46:15 <lasthayek[m]> raas[m]: Sounds good here I have faith 
20:20:39 <Cryptoman[m]> Anyone have good rss feed for xmr news?
20:21:43 <kolosca[m]> Cryptoman[m]: icarolongo: 
20:21:58 <kolosca[m]> > <@cryptoman81:matrix.org> Anyone have good rss feed for xmr news?
20:21:58 <kolosca[m]>  * icarolongo
20:29:27 <Rucknium[m]> Cryptoman: https://monero.observer
20:41:54 <anarkiocrypto[m]> https://themonero.dance aggregates multiple RSS feeds. Monero.observer also offers a RSS feed.
20:42:16 <DanIsnotthemanBr> Local monero has one too
21:07:50 <Jack[m]> <plowsof11> "in a round about way jacks..." <- maybe it didn't come out right. I'm calling ethereum retarded
23:00:18 <revuoxmr> Revuo Monero. Issue 157: January 26 - February 2, 2023. http://revuo-xmr.com/issue-157.html
23:04:34 <LZA_MENACE> I added a link to generate an HAProxy config file with all the nodes on https://monero.fail (whatever nodes you're filtering for)
23:47:32 <doctorx> Good evening. I don't know if this is the right channel for this but, since updating/compiling the latest monero binary from source, launching monerod using my same flags as for the past 2 years, I now see the following warning line spamming every couple of mins. "Couldn't allocate RandomX light VM using large pages"
23:47:53 <doctorx> I never seen that before, and I'm not mining with monerod.
23:49:08 <ofrnxmr[m]> What type of device
23:49:40 <doctorx> It's my Full VM Node.
23:49:55 <doctorx> Been using that for about 2 years now, but just recently I noticed that on my latest compile.
23:50:11 <plowsof11> this is normal, it will be moved to --log-level 1 soon 
23:50:33 <doctorx> Ahh so I should just ignore it.
23:50:51 <selsta> doctorx: see https://github.com/monero-project/monero/pull/8705
23:51:05 <selsta> it will be merged soon
23:51:33 <plowsof11> thanks ^
23:51:34 <doctorx> ahh I see. it's just that I've never seen that before, not even once.
23:51:44 <doctorx> (that I could think of.)
23:52:59 <doctorx> Ahh
23:53:21 <doctorx> "I've changed large page allocation messages back to mdebug (the same as it was before the refactoring in #8677)"
23:53:39 <doctorx> So it has always been there, just hidden in mdebug.
23:54:02 <doctorx> Alright. I'll proceed to ignore. Thanks for the update/help! I greatly appreciate it.
23:54:10 <doctorx> I run that full xmr node 24/7/365.
23:54:54 <plowsof11> thank you for supporting the network 
23:55:04 <doctorx> Always!