00:00:29 <dANBs[m]> jamaikos[xmpp]: thats true thats why xmpp is a way much more better than IRC by that way
00:00:39 <dANBs[m]> jamaikos[xmpp]: it also support sms bridges
00:01:27 <dANBs[m]> jamaikos[xmpp]: I think we need more bridges on the groups
00:02:23 <dANBs[m]> jamaikos[xmpp]: in telegram and whatsapp channels there is only matrix brigdges
00:02:24 <dANBs[m]> jamaikos[xmpp]: we could make a bridge in xmpp in a private group with cryptography to another platform without problems
00:03:05 <dANBs[m]> jamaikos[xmpp]: matrix it is mossad collecting metadata such as oracle was founded by an guy that had a lot of relations with CIA
00:03:46 <cockliuser[m]> dANBs[m]: If you're on libera you can request a cloak in #libera-cloak after registering with nickserv
00:03:57 <plowsof11> "we" = 1 person , probably a volunteer. and then admins have to be in 5 places at once and it seems it spirals discussion into talking about why my bridge is better than yours and 'mossad' drivel  
00:04:39 <dANBs[m]> user[xmpp]: whatsapp and telegram should be avoided, i think telegram (besides closed source) has automatic previews turned on and no way to turn off which means it will download any files that is posted in public chat rooms directly to your disk
00:04:56 <dANBs[m]> user[xmpp]: this is how pegasus operate
00:05:00 <dANBs[m]> s/operate/operated/
00:05:07 <dANBs[m]> jamaikos[xmpp]: yeah makes sense
00:05:32 <dANBs[m]> jamaikos[xmpp]: xmpp it is the only one that is not corrupted
00:06:00 <dANBs[m]> jamaikos[xmpp]: Atox and briar are good but are nothing more than early releases
00:06:01 <dANBs[m]> jamaikos[xmpp]: but I would put my faith on briar maybe
00:06:18 <dANBs[m]> user[xmpp]: which means its open to being exploted and have been before (not to mention the creator of telegram was on the list of people targeted by pegasus phone # released by privacy international)
00:06:26 <dANBs[m]> jamaikos[xmpp]: > this is how pegasus operated
00:06:26 <dANBs[m]> lets make a bridge and dance in front of pegasus
00:06:46 <dANBs[m]> user[xmpp]: lol
00:06:50 <plowsof11> is this monero related? or someones private messages
00:07:00 <dANBs[m]> user[xmpp]: sorry
00:08:16 <dANBs[m]> jamaikos[xmpp]: in omemo documentation it is saying that this year they will release a patch that make omemo cypher the full way of the p2p
00:09:25 <dANBs[m]> jamaikos[xmpp]: omemo as whatsapp and matrix , the message sent will get exposed by miliseconds on the server before being published to other clients on the group
00:09:36 <dANBs[m]> user[xmpp]: plowsof i will say great work on the feather wallet and looking to hear more about any Seraphis/Jamtis updates
00:09:54 <dANBs[m]> jamaikos[xmpp]: feather wallet it is a true wallet
00:10:33 <dANBs[m]> user[xmpp]: well GUI is great too ..my preference is more lightweight things
00:10:52 <dANBs[m]> jamaikos[xmpp]: monero GUI is nice but bloat
00:11:17 <dANBs[m]> user[xmpp]: GUI seems better for mining and few other things
00:12:27 <dANBs[m]> user[xmpp]: will see how my father like cake wallet
00:13:07 <dANBs[m]> user[xmpp]: https://invidious.sethforprivacy.com/watch?v=xGEBRQU1lzw
00:13:37 <dANBs[m]> jamaikos[xmpp]: they should also habe bitcoin cash
00:13:44 <dANBs[m]> jamaikos[xmpp]: have *
00:15:05 <dANBs[m]> jamaikos[xmpp]: I used jabber at the orkut era until 2010's , then I started using facebook
00:15:09 <dANBs[m]> user[xmpp]: hey jamaikos  trying to keep it XMR related but can u link that patch about omemo to be released ?
00:16:16 <dANBs[m]> jamaikos[xmpp]: https://yewtu.be/watch?v=PIQg7M8efc8
00:16:56 <dANBs[m]> jamaikos[xmpp]: it is in portuguese
00:17:35 <dANBs[m]> user[xmpp]: u said 2023
00:17:57 <dANBs[m]> jamaikos[xmpp]: yeah
00:18:13 <dANBs[m]> jamaikos[xmpp]: it is a prevision by then
00:20:10 <dANBs[m]> user[xmpp]: don't speak portuguese
00:58:28 <DeanGuss> When I do `monerod status` I see: "Error: Problem fetching info-- rpc_request\nHeight 15290/15290 (100.0%) on mainnet, mining info unavailable, net hash 172.38 kH/s, v1, 0(out)+0(in) connections"
00:59:05 <DeanGuss> I am obviously in initial sync, so when I do `monerod sync_info` it also only says "Error: Problem fetching info-- rpc_request"
00:59:44 <DeanGuss> I have restricted-rpc=1 in monerod.conf ... is that why?
02:34:26 <selsta> DeanGuss: yes
02:34:46 <selsta> I'm quite sure sync_info is restricted
05:21:05 <ofrnxmr[m]> Looks like youre running on not-mainnet
05:21:14 <ofrnxmr[m]> Different ports
05:23:17 <ofrnxmr[m]> (What selsta said first though. You cant read certain info over a restricted rpc)
05:26:01 <ofrnxmr[m]> Comment out Remove the `restricted-rpc=1` and replace with... (full message at <https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/libera.chat/bfc9ce6fac76b512751d85bd370a03c7eae595b4>)
06:19:34 <thatsinewave[m]> > <@ofrnxmr:monero.social> You can use trocador.app to swap whatevercoin into monero with absolutely no account or anythibg... (full message at <https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/libera.chat/9cdefb9898eafcb7e626b40a4dff3347d29ce488>)
06:19:55 <ofrnxmr[m]> $5?
06:20:13 <ofrnxmr[m]> I dunno..whales only I guess
06:21:08 <ofrnxmr[m]> (Tip, I have no idea what you're referring to, so im answering bs with bs)
06:21:08 <thatsinewave[m]> $5? No, 23000$
06:21:11 <thatsinewave[m]>  * $5? No, $23000
06:21:20 <thatsinewave[m]> Also the Exchange button does nothing
06:21:35 <ofrnxmr[m]> I always swap 2btc 
06:21:38 <thatsinewave[m]> thatsinewave[m]: (I don't have $23000)
06:21:45 <thatsinewave[m]> ofrnxmr[m]: I am not that rich
06:21:55 <ofrnxmr[m]> Seriously though, no idea wtf youre talking about 😅😅😅😅😅
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06:22:22 <ofrnxmr[m]> What coins are you using...?
06:22:38 <thatsinewave[m]> 0.0003 BTC = ~$23000
06:22:41 <ofrnxmr[m]> 0.0003 is 23000? TIL
06:22:54 <ofrnxmr[m]> YOUR MATH IS BROKEN
06:22:57 <thatsinewave[m]> ofrnxmr[m]: Trying to see if I can make a sane conversion path to monero
06:23:18 <thatsinewave[m]> ofrnxmr[m]: 🤔
06:23:40 <thatsinewave[m]> Oh
06:23:41 <thatsinewave[m]> Fucking google
06:23:42 <ofrnxmr[m]> 1 = 23000
06:23:42 <ofrnxmr[m]> 0.0003 is definitely not 23000
06:23:56 <thatsinewave[m]> To be fair
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06:24:12 <thatsinewave[m]> It was not shown
06:24:19 <thatsinewave[m]> I had to scroll down, they changed the UI
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06:24:24 <thatsinewave[m]> It used to be different
06:24:46 <ofrnxmr[m]> Damn. I was off by $2.
06:24:46 <ofrnxmr[m]> $7** my bad
06:25:03 <thatsinewave[m]> Okay, hold on hold on
06:25:48 <ofrnxmr[m]> 0.0003 btc = 23k = 7.6b per btc
06:25:48 <ofrnxmr[m]> Lolol
06:25:55 <thatsinewave[m]> $20 is 0.000043 BTC
06:25:55 <thatsinewave[m]> Min is 0.0003 BTC
06:25:55 <thatsinewave[m]> 0.000043 < 0.0003
06:25:55 <thatsinewave[m]> 0.0003 is $6.92
06:25:57 <thatsinewave[m]> I am confusedc
06:26:00 <thatsinewave[m]>  * I am confused
06:26:33 <thatsinewave[m]> Oh it's the UI beiungf broken again
06:26:37 <thatsinewave[m]> Christ google
06:26:50 <thatsinewave[m]> FINALLY
06:26:51 <thatsinewave[m]> Thanks
06:26:54 <ofrnxmr[m]> Your calculator is drunk 
06:27:14 <ocean[m]> serves you right for using google
06:27:25 <ofrnxmr[m]> And for letting your calculator drink hard liquor 
06:28:21 <ofrnxmr[m]> 0.000043 * 23000
06:28:47 <ofrnxmr[m]> You dont need Google for that
06:28:56 <ofrnxmr[m]> Amount you want to send * cost of a whole one
06:28:56 <thatsinewave[m]> ocean[m]: Hey I don't like getting presented with porn while trying to look up documentation like how duckduckgo does
06:29:51 <ofrnxmr[m]> I just search pornhub directly. 🤔 soon they'll add a calculator
06:32:38 <ocean[m]> thatsinewave: searx
06:34:51 <thatsinewave[m]> That still just uses google 🤔
06:34:55 <thatsinewave[m]> Just a frontend
06:39:10 <ofrnxmr[m]> But, does it do math?
06:39:28 <ofrnxmr[m]> Thesinewave needs to learn his to use a calculator 
06:40:00 <ofrnxmr[m]> How to* do multiplication
07:50:40 <DanIsnotthemanBr> Searxng can use any search engine
07:55:23 <thatsinewave[m]> So, anyone knows where could I buy another cryptocurrency (currently trying out bitcoin, got a wallet) so I can use https://trocador.app to convert it to Monero?
07:55:40 <thatsinewave[m]> I tried searching, but cannot find any good ones
07:56:00 <thatsinewave[m]> There's the official one on bitcoin.org, with a 27% fee
07:56:24 <DanIsnotthemanBr> Like cake wallet?
07:57:45 <thatsinewave[m]> Doesn't seem so
07:57:46 <thatsinewave[m]> Seems like just a wallet app to me
07:58:12 <DanIsnotthemanBr> Pretty you can swap in it
07:58:20 <DanIsnotthemanBr> * Pretty sure you can
07:58:59 <thatsinewave[m]> Well
07:59:05 <thatsinewave[m]> Not very useful if I cannot access it
07:59:35 <DanIsnotthemanBr> I’m lost
08:00:17 <thatsinewave[m]> Also reading their docs it seems that they only offer between crypto?
08:00:21 <thatsinewave[m]> * their docs, it
08:00:51 <DanIsnotthemanBr> You want to swap btc to xmr?
08:01:17 <DanIsnotthemanBr> Or am i missing something
08:01:22 <thatsinewave[m]> No, I want to buy BTC with fiat so I can swap it to XMR with the exchange suggested by someone here before, https://trocador.app 
08:01:45 <DanIsnotthemanBr> Oh you want an exchange
08:01:49 <DanIsnotthemanBr> To get btc
08:02:07 <thatsinewave[m]> Yea, since I didn't find any sane way to obtain XMR directly
08:03:02 <DanIsnotthemanBr> Localmonero?
08:04:30 <DanIsnotthemanBr> https://kycnot.me/
08:12:51 <thatsinewave[m]> Hmm
08:12:57 <thatsinewave[m]> The first one suggested is bisq
08:13:17 <thatsinewave[m]> Any experience with that?
08:13:34 <thatsinewave[m]> Uh this is so confusing
08:16:16 <ofrnxmr[m]> Its not confusing 
08:16:27 <ofrnxmr[m]> Your goal is to buy crypto
08:16:37 <hyc> bisq crashed my laptop. dunno how it managed to do that, or what system-level muckin about it wass trying to do
08:16:47 <ofrnxmr[m]> There are 2 ways to do that
08:16:47 <ofrnxmr[m]> Using ID and not using ID
08:19:28 <thatsinewave[m]> Bisq seems to offer no sane payment methods
08:19:43 <ofrnxmr[m]> You're paying a buyer directly 
08:19:51 <ofrnxmr[m]> Seller*
08:20:17 <ofrnxmr[m]> What is "sane" to you, is also "sane" to regulations 
08:20:39 <thatsinewave[m]> Sane means that I can actually pay using that method
08:20:42 <thatsinewave[m]> I have a credit card
08:21:04 <ofrnxmr[m]> And you want to pay a PERSON with a method that can be reversed or frozen? 
08:21:14 <ofrnxmr[m]> Credit is not money
08:21:44 <ofrnxmr[m]> Credit is debt. If you want to buy crypto using debt, use a cex or go make a cash advance against the card
08:22:31 <thatsinewave[m]> Idk, it's a piece of plastic I pay with or numbers I pay with. It's not the one that goes in debt afaik, considering it gets declined in such a case.
08:22:33 <ofrnxmr[m]> ofrnxmr[m]: And a method that doesnt settle for  2 days
08:23:15 <ofrnxmr[m]> Thats not sane
08:23:22 <ofrnxmr[m]> KYC lets you do this, because they can track you down
08:23:40 <thatsinewave[m]> Yes, it's not sane, which is why I want to get Monero since it seems the most sane method right after cash
08:24:06 <thatsinewave[m]> But I cannot exactly use cash to buy it, so my only other option are the existing payment methods
08:24:07 <ofrnxmr[m]> So.. either kyc or put up a buy offer of localmonero
08:24:49 <thatsinewave[m]> And the indirect options that use bitcoin as an intermediary?
08:24:56 <ofrnxmr[m]> Or find someone that can sell you crypto.
08:24:56 <ofrnxmr[m]> I would, but you seem kind of hard to deal with, (0.0003 =23000 is ripping me off!!!) so not interested. 
08:25:37 <ofrnxmr[m]> Are no KYC etc, if you can get btc ltc bch eth or shitcoin #1-50 you can probably swap it on trocador
08:26:33 <thatsinewave[m]> > but you seem kind of hard to deal with
08:26:33 <thatsinewave[m]> Why >_<
08:26:57 <thatsinewave[m]> > 0.0003 =23000 is ripping me off!!!
08:26:57 <ofrnxmr[m]> Because you find problems that dont exist and complain until you understand 
08:26:58 <thatsinewave[m]> Hhahahaha
08:27:12 <thatsinewave[m]> Tbf I am kinda venting after spending hours trying to do this myself and failing
08:27:40 <thatsinewave[m]> And being angry at how fucking retarded classic banks are
08:28:22 <thatsinewave[m]> >  if you can get btc ltc bch eth or shitcoin #1-50 you can probably swap it on trocador
08:28:22 <thatsinewave[m]> *IF* I can
08:28:46 <thatsinewave[m]> And I am trying to figure out how to get any of the other coins
08:28:57 <thatsinewave[m]> Only thing I found has 27% fee
08:29:11 <thatsinewave[m]> And I am not sure if it even works
08:29:38 <thatsinewave[m]> Well, YOLO time
08:29:54 <ofrnxmr[m]> Simple. Do you want to kyc?
08:30:31 <ofrnxmr[m]> If you do, just use kraken or even binance since you want easy
08:30:31 <ofrnxmr[m]> If not, you have to do leg work
08:30:34 <thatsinewave[m]> I don't want to send DNA samples or sell my soul, so no KYC
08:31:02 <thatsinewave[m]> I'd be fine with sane amounts of KYC, aka address, name, and credit card
08:31:12 <ofrnxmr[m]> And ID
08:31:27 <thatsinewave[m]> But no DNA samples, family photo albums, nudes, etc
08:31:47 <ofrnxmr[m]> Lol. Credit card isnt id. Address isnt id.
08:31:47 <ofrnxmr[m]> These things worked a couple years ago, but "just id" is even becoming rare now
08:31:58 <ofrnxmr[m]> Kraken does "just id" for intermediate iirc.
08:32:10 <ofrnxmr[m]> Pro (10m+ ) likely needs the noods
08:32:26 <thatsinewave[m]> Credit Card is an ID, it identifies me enough for police to find me if they wanted to based on my bitcoin address
08:32:33 <ofrnxmr[m]> Credit card is not id
08:32:40 <ofrnxmr[m]> Buddy
08:32:47 <ofrnxmr[m]> Tell that to your politicians that say its not
08:32:47 <thatsinewave[m]> Well, not an ID, but it identifies me
08:32:53 <ofrnxmr[m]> No it doesnt
08:33:09 <ofrnxmr[m]> If it did, aml laws wouldnt say otherwise 
08:33:09 <evalda[m]> Fuck the ids
08:33:10 <thatsinewave[m]> It does
08:33:10 <thatsinewave[m]> Hm?
08:33:12 <thatsinewave[m]> Laws are insane
08:33:18 <thatsinewave[m]> No use looking at them for something sane
08:33:19 <ofrnxmr[m]> It did 2 years ago, now they need nudes. Got it?
08:33:19 <ofrnxmr[m]> If not, call your politician 
08:33:35 <thatsinewave[m]> I said sane KYC. Sane KYC is illegal, got it.
08:33:40 <evalda[m]> It's monero supposed to delink sender to recipient
08:34:21 <ofrnxmr[m]> ID links you to the btc
08:34:21 <ofrnxmr[m]> The monero, not so much
08:34:43 <thatsinewave[m]> Well yea, I am talking about getting BTC then doing BTC -> XMR
08:35:02 <evalda[m]> Exactly
08:35:13 <ofrnxmr[m]> thatsinewave[m]: The second part of your equation is simple af and needs no further explanation 
08:35:32 <ofrnxmr[m]> The first part is a "you" problem, and you have the solutions 
08:35:35 <ofrnxmr[m]> Pick one and stop complaining 
08:35:36 <evalda[m]> So they will know BTC belongs to you
08:35:46 <thatsinewave[m]> ofrnxmr[m]: What are those solutions?
08:35:52 <ofrnxmr[m]> Or go complain to the people who took and continue to take your rights 
08:35:55 <thatsinewave[m]> Without sending nudes and dna samples
08:36:16 <evalda[m]> But as soon as you get into Monero the track is lost, isn't it?
08:36:16 <ofrnxmr[m]> Use bisq or localnonero
08:36:29 <thatsinewave[m]> Well, Bisq does not let me pay as far as I can tell
08:36:42 <evalda[m]> ofrnxmr[m]: Yeah but it's easier said than done
08:36:44 <thatsinewave[m]> Like I am neither American, Mexican, nor Indian
08:37:02 <thatsinewave[m]> And the payment options seem to be only for those areas
08:37:09 <thatsinewave[m]> I am European so I guess I am out of luck with Bisq?
08:37:16 <evalda[m]> I used both but it's hard to transact for anything above 100 usd
08:37:18 <ofrnxmr[m]> Well, I wouldnt sell you monero for a credit card. How would you like to pay Sir?
08:37:46 <ofrnxmr[m]> I accept crypto and fiat/cash only 
08:37:50 <thatsinewave[m]> I can ship you Euros
08:37:53 <thatsinewave[m]> * you Euros cash if you give me an address :P 
08:38:11 <ofrnxmr[m]> Yeah, and "you" dont like KYC? 
08:38:12 <thatsinewave[m]> And somehow prove that the transaction is safe
08:38:17 <evalda[m]> ofrnxmr[m]: Ma'am and I'll buy monero for bank transfer as long as it's somewhat private
08:38:18 <ofrnxmr[m]> Exactlyn
08:38:37 <thatsinewave[m]> ofrnxmr[m]: Wdym, shipping is as private as it gets
08:39:10 <thatsinewave[m]> Sender pays with cash, receiver takes it from a holding station or w/e are thoswe things called in eng
08:39:10 <ofrnxmr[m]> Howso? You dont know where I am.  I cant just ship it to Turkey if im in Australia
08:39:50 <evalda[m]> That's why buying BTC first is often needed
08:39:55 <ofrnxmr[m]> And if you have euros, use localmonero ffs
08:40:15 <ofrnxmr[m]> Plenty of people there do cash by mail iirc 
08:40:31 <thatsinewave[m]> I was joking with cash by mail, someone can just... Take my cash and not send the money
08:40:37 <ofrnxmr[m]> Might even find someone to be your xmr dealer in person 
08:40:44 <evalda[m]> True but I won't use localmonero for like $10k buy
08:41:01 <ofrnxmr[m]> thatsinewave[m]: Just like you can reverse a credit card tx
08:41:01 <thatsinewave[m]> ofrnxmr[m]: Oh?
08:41:41 <thatsinewave[m]> I mean, wouldn't you usually use intermediaries for things like this?
08:41:53 <evalda[m]> Localmonero is great for small amounts
08:41:56 <ofrnxmr[m]> I use kyc to buy shitcoins and swap to xmr 
08:42:10 <evalda[m]> So so much for anything real
08:42:14 <thatsinewave[m]> ofrnxmr[m]: How much KYC?
08:42:15 <ofrnxmr[m]> Then I do whatever tf I want with the xmr and my kyc account is always empty 
08:42:25 <evalda[m]> ofrnxmr[m]: This
08:42:26 <ofrnxmr[m]> ID 
08:42:39 <ofrnxmr[m]> I close accounts when they ask for selfies
08:43:21 <evalda[m]> I found a good KYC exchange where I live with min requirements
08:43:26 <thatsinewave[m]> There exist bitcoin ATMs where I live, but I frankly have no idea if they work, and to be fair I wouldn't expect them to work
08:43:29 <evalda[m]> But they only deal btc
08:43:40 <evalda[m]> So I have to exchange
08:45:10 <ofrnxmr[m]> Exchange reports my purchases to taxes
08:45:10 <ofrnxmr[m]> What did I do with the crypto?
08:45:10 <ofrnxmr[m]> I immediately disposed of it and bought monero, which, if not listed on any exchange, doesnt excatly have a real value now does it.
08:45:10 <ofrnxmr[m]> That monero is gone, and was used to 100x BTC futures. Dont ask me about those shitcoins, they only existed for a few minutes, then I had a boating accident 
08:46:59 <thatsinewave[m]> Heheh
08:47:02 <thatsinewave[m]> I'll try the local bitcoin ATMs and hope for the best
08:47:25 <ofrnxmr[m]> They work ^ but expect to pay 10% surcharges 
09:32:13 <ceetee[m]> <ofrnxmr[m]> "Kraken does "just id" for..." <- kraken at minimum needs ID with selfi and proof of residence (utility bill), but you can black out most numbers on the second
09:39:33 <ofrnxmr[m]> Needs selfie now? Or id with photo?
09:39:57 <ofrnxmr[m]> Maybe my kraken account is frozen then, havent used it in like 6 few months 
10:12:58 <ceetee[m]> selfie with you holding the ID iirc, at least 2020 when I signed up. Account still works
10:25:05 <DanIsnotthemanBr> With the middle finger too ?
10:29:16 <thatsinewave[m]> <ofrnxmr[m]> "They work ^ but expect to pay 10..." <- The one I used charged 14%
10:30:02 <thatsinewave[m]> I have a fun story.
10:30:02 <thatsinewave[m]> I forgot to screenshot the address on the wallet before I left
10:30:25 <thatsinewave[m]> So I was SSHing over my VPN that dies every 5 minutes (thanks OpenVPN) and controlling my desktop remotely with xdotool and screenshotting it with maim
10:30:53 <thatsinewave[m]> They also have an absurdly high minimum payment
10:31:41 <thatsinewave[m]> Converted it is 0.0019 BTC (and they give back 0.001634 BTC)
10:31:57 <thatsinewave[m]> Now I'll wait for it to arrive, and try to convert it to XMR
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12:27:33 <thatsinewave[m]> Got the BTC, now trying to convert it to XMR
12:27:38 <thatsinewave[m]> That's the BTC wallet
12:29:19 <thatsinewave[m]> OH It' sin mBTC, I am stupid, sorry
12:30:48 <thatsinewave[m]>  * OH It's in mBTC, I am stupid, sorry
12:30:55 <thatsinewave[m]> Waiting for the transaction
12:45:40 <thatsinewave[m]> Wait uh
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12:46:01 <thatsinewave[m]> Isn't that bad 🤔
12:46:02 <thatsinewave[m]> A transfer takes an hour at min
12:46:17 <thatsinewave[m]> If it expires before then, will it just eat my money
14:09:36 <thatsinewave[m]> It's been over an hour 🤔
14:11:54 <thatsinewave[m]> It's at
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14:15:08 <iwormthroughhout> any of you guys use feather wallet in whonix?
14:17:49 <stretch1> <thatsinewave[m]> "It's been over an hour 🤔" <- bro, relax & think, then act.
14:17:57 <stretch1> name your favorite swap venues?
14:20:47 <stretch1> cool: https://moneromarket.io/
14:21:27 <stretch1> <anarkiocrypto[m]> "Also Particl.io but it uses PART..." <- you think PART is good buy?
14:39:13 <thatsinewave[m]> <stretch1> "bro, relax & think, then act." <- ?
14:43:06 <thatsinewave[m]> Hmm, is it that sending bitcoin just takes ages
14:43:23 <thatsinewave[m]> The number seems to be going down
14:43:54 <iwormthroughhout> use btc lightning
14:43:57 <iwormthroughhout> isnt it instant
14:45:03 <thatsinewave[m]> Well I already sent the money
15:13:19 <thatsinewave[m]> <thatsinewave[m]> "The number seems to be going..." <- It seems to be going up and down*, staying about the same. I increased the fee to be about 4 times what it was before
15:21:30 <ofrnxmr[m]> Whoa
15:21:49 <ofrnxmr[m]> First of all, what sort of funky bitcoin wallet are you using 
15:22:19 <ofrnxmr[m]> Second of all, if you read, you set a fee if 4000% of the amount
15:23:02 <thatsinewave[m]> ofrnxmr[m]: Electrum
15:23:13 <thatsinewave[m]> I finally got the monero!
15:23:34 <thatsinewave[m]> Balance: 0.045736612273, unlocked balance: 0.045736612273
15:23:34 <iwormthroughhout> what are some good bitcoin wallets
15:23:39 <iwormthroughhout> that have support for lightning 
15:23:58 <thatsinewave[m]> thatsinewave[m]: What's the unit 😔
15:23:59 <thatsinewave[m]> I highly doubt it's just XMR
15:24:20 <thatsinewave[m]> Or wait
15:24:24 <thatsinewave[m]> Ah, I got fooled by google again, nevermind!
15:31:52 <thatsinewave[m]> The fees to convert to BTC were 14%, and BTC->XMR were 3%
15:32:00 <thatsinewave[m]> Not that bad
15:33:30 <ofrnxmr[m]> <thatsinewave[m]> "Electrum" <- Use cake wallet
15:33:38 <iwormthroughhout> i need a wallet for desktop
15:35:09 <ofrnxmr[m]> For bitcoin? #bitcoin channel
15:35:43 <thatsinewave[m]> ofrnxmr[m]: I looked it up, it's phone no?
15:35:45 <thatsinewave[m]> * it's phone only no?
15:36:02 <iwormthroughhout> yeah its mobile only
15:36:03 <ofrnxmr[m]> Mac too
15:36:57 <ofrnxmr[m]> Desktop monero wallets... (full message at <https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/libera.chat/d52a47a84151e6f2250423158db6997830c49d42>)
15:37:09 <iwormthroughhout> bro
15:37:11 <iwormthroughhout> cake is not a desktop wallet
15:37:18 <iwormthroughhout> wtf are u talking about
15:37:19 <ofrnxmr[m]> Bro
15:37:44 <ofrnxmr[m]> I smoke crack and dont know hoe to read, I dunno
15:38:28 <ofrnxmr[m]> https://matrix.to/#/!eBgZCVRnRRkKchiYzS:monero.social/$ZOW7vZOeUV_qX48PmnOBysc00d0IyXJxHwA6VOTRBCc?via=monero.social&via=libera.chat&via=matrix.org
15:58:38 <thatsinewave[m]> Desktop, not fanzy paperweight /s
16:46:45 <gingeropolous> i love how the %mem adds up to >120%
17:37:31 <rbrunner> iwormthroughhout: Cake is on the way to become a desktop wallet: https://old.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/11b4f3f/cake_wallet_arrives_on_desktop_beta_release_for/
19:19:52 <DeanGuss> Anybody know why my monero isn't listening to my config options?  I *definitely* have enforce-dns-checkpointing=0 and disable-dns-checkpoints=1 in monero.conf
19:20:06 <DeanGuss> https://0bin.net/paste/uZIRTrnK#9a03xvRreV1UXBJcZM-lfx7AQXQVRdZUVwyWjMemcGR <- my log clearly shows it still trying to check dns txt records from monero pulse
19:21:13 <moneromooo> Is it loading that file ?
19:21:21 <moneromooo> (eg, strace)
19:22:50 <DeanGuss> It's definitely loading the file because I also have add-exclusive-node=192.168.0.11:18080 added to the config and you can see from the log it's trying to connect to that node
19:23:49 <DeanGuss> and curiously, when I turn on tx-proxy and proxy= to use tor, it no longer contacts monero pulse crap
19:24:09 <DeanGuss> Or at least, it doesn't announce it in the log
19:25:09 <moneromooo> Are you sure it's the dns stuff and not, say, the update check ?
19:26:21 <DeanGuss> pretty sure:
19:26:22 <DeanGuss> 2023-02-25T19:06:41+00:00  2023-02-25 19:06:41.745	W Invalid DNSSEC TXT record signature for updates.moneropulse.org: validation failure <updates.moneropulse.org. TXT IN>: no DNSKEY rrset for trust anchor . while building chain of trust
19:26:22 <DeanGuss> 2023-02-25T19:06:41+00:00  2023-02-25 19:06:41.745	I Found TXT record for updates.moneropulse.org
19:26:48 <moneromooo> Sorry, I meant "Are you sure it's the checkpoint stuff and not, say, the update check" :D
19:27:09 <moneromooo> And it's the update check. It can be disabled too if you want. See --help.
19:27:41 <DeanGuss> ahh... ok thank you
20:28:40 <dANBs[m]> jamaikos[xmpp]: I wish I had a good enthernet conection in my town
20:29:01 <dANBs[m]> jamaikos[xmpp]: I was trying to make an monero node
20:29:07 <dANBs[m]> jamaikos[xmpp]: but the conection it is pretty fucking unstable
21:48:44 <Guest6899> where wallet2 check tx size
21:49:11 <Guest6899> there is a lot of code
23:25:20 <bridgerton[m]> <rootinit> If you just need a personal node it should be fine... Once it's synced updates don't take much bandwidth
23:25:38 <bridgerton[m]> <rootinit> I understand where your comming from though. It took about 2 weeks for it to sync initially for me
23:35:13 <lcminer> Which remote nodes does simple mode in Monero-gui use? Where can I find good remote nodes
23:39:48 <bridgerton[m]> <rootinit> I would guess the closest fastest one