00:42:07 <agnetkek[m]> Are ordinals a psyop by chain analysis?
00:59:55 <LZA_MENACE> totally
01:45:39 <DanIsnotthemanBr> Bloatware
09:09:05 <stretch1> cool: https://nostr.directory/
10:12:18 <ajs_[m]> only 3 MoneroKon VIP tickets left https://shop.monerokon.com/monerokon/2023/
21:21:20 <iwormthroughhout> i need to swap monero into bitcoin, eth, or ltc to pay for something
21:21:21 <iwormthroughhout> which has the lowest fees
21:23:05 <XMRPriest[m]> If you use monerujo you can swap it directly through the app and put in the Bitcoin or ltc
21:23:10 <XMRPriest[m]> Address
21:25:28 <cockliuser[m]> iwormthroughhout: TradeOgre
21:25:47 <cockliuser[m]> ETH withdrawal fees are high though
21:27:17 <iwormthroughhout> well
21:27:23 <iwormthroughhout> im asking which has the lowest fees lol
21:27:41 <cockliuser[m]> XMRPriest[m]: Use sideshift iirc
21:28:04 <cockliuser[m]> sideshift isn't quite fun to deal with 
21:28:33 <cockliuser[m]> iwormthroughhout: Swapping to BTC and LTC is probably TradeOgre
21:28:56 <cockliuser[m]> * Swapping to BTC and LTC is probably lowest on TradeOgre
21:29:13 <iwormthroughhout> bro
21:29:27 <iwormthroughhout> im trying to swap monero to insert coin name
21:29:37 <iwormthroughhout> which has the lowest fees
21:29:46 <iwormthroughhout> tradeogre, trocador, whatever
21:31:26 <Rucknium[m]> Between BTC, LTC, and ETH: LTC will definitely have lowest fees. There are coins with even lower fees than LTC. Even zero.
21:32:19 <semyon2105> they meant which exchange
21:32:32 <semyon2105> I think it's binance but that's dealing with the devil
21:33:13 <ashleyc> is binance a cryptocurrency exchange?
21:33:40 <cockliuser[m]> semyon2105: by the time binance finishes your withdrawal the prices will have moved by +-5% anyway lol
21:34:11 <semyon2105> that's when you want to buy XMR not sell :D
21:35:10 <cockliuser[m]> cexes have bullshit withdrawal times on most coins
21:36:20 <iwormthroughhout> Rucknium[m]: okay thank u. i will use ltc
21:36:35 <nioc> tradeogre is virtually instant
21:36:37 <iwormthroughhout> whats a good ltc wallet lol
21:36:47 <iwormthroughhout> nioc: faster than trocador?
21:36:49 <cockliuser[m]> cake ig
21:36:57 <iwormthroughhout> cockliuser[m]: desktop
21:37:02 <iwormthroughhout> * wallet lol for desktop
21:37:08 <nioc> don't know never used them
21:37:36 <nioc> ofc you need to set up an account on TO
21:38:03 <cockliuser[m]> iwormthroughhout: Electrum LTC
21:38:45 <cockliuser[m]> why do you need to swap monero into any other coin though? 
21:39:00 <iwormthroughhout> cockliuser[m]: wtf
21:39:01 <iwormthroughhout> electrum has an ltc wallet
21:39:02 <iwormthroughhout> tahts news to me 
21:39:03 <nioc> also if you trade for ltc on TO you need to go xmr>btc>ltc
21:39:05 <iwormthroughhout> nioc: fuck them then
21:39:14 <iwormthroughhout> cockliuser[m]: cuz the site i want to pruchase from
21:39:21 <iwormthroughhout> doesnt accept xmr
21:39:26 <iwormthroughhout> im gonna use trocador i guess
21:40:51 <cockliuser[m]> iwormthroughhout: there is a significant difference in rates though
21:41:14 <cockliuser[m]> 0.06322 on trocador vs 0.0641 on TO
21:41:14 <ofrnxmr[m]> Depends on spread at the time ^
21:42:19 <ofrnxmr[m]> But if using btc, also WD fee
21:42:22 <ofrnxmr[m]> And if using ltc, double swap fees
21:43:07 <ofrnxmr[m]> I use TO when im buying to hold
21:43:08 <ofrnxmr[m]> Personally, id contaact the vendor 
21:43:29 <ofrnxmr[m]> They need to accept cryptocurrecy, not nfts
21:44:43 <ofrnxmr[m]> Asking me to buy some rock pictures to pay them with, Smh. I only pay with currencies
21:45:10 <bridgerton[m]> <Bon 💗> You sell rock pictures
21:45:19 <bridgerton[m]> <Bon 💗> 😭now I'm curious
21:45:55 <ofrnxmr[m]> Im all out of btc right now, sorry @bon
21:55:26 <bridgerton[m]> <Bon 💗> Ok 😭