00:10:40 <Fibonacci12358> This place Dead?
00:24:43 <spackle_xmr[m]> nope
00:28:27 <spackle_xmr[m]> Sir Teal has received assistance in #monero-community:monero.social , btw.
00:59:14 <Sir_Teal_Esq> OK I am totally baffled I am copying my .bitmonero folder from monero-x86_64-linux-gnu-v0.18.0.0 to v0.18.2.0 an it wont seem to synch from the same block I was at before.
00:59:55 <Sir_Teal_Esq> even when i put it in the home folder and I point it there it still wont synch from where I was before.
01:03:14 <Sir_Teal_Esq> But when I synch with ./monerod --data-dir=. in the v.0.18.0.0 it synchs at 94% complete
01:06:02 <Sir_Teal_Esq> I even pointed my term session from the v.0.18.2.0 to v.0.18.0.0 and still it wont synch the chain from the same place I am missing something in what I am doing.
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03:15:11 <cryptogrampy[m]> Found plowsof @plowsof:matrix.org:  s new side hustle
04:29:54 <ofrnxmr[m]> LMAO. What a shit project
04:32:11 <lza_menace> https://monero.fail is now serving the Onion-Location header to a hidden service
04:38:20 <ofrnxmr[m]> Link doesnt want to load in chrome 🤔, working over tor though 
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04:40:57 <bridgerton[m]> <Bon 💗> 
04:40:57 <bridgerton[m]> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/620459189097201669/1091220559716700231/Screenshot_20230330-214032.png
04:41:10 <bridgerton[m]> <Bon 💗> Works for me just fine and i use Firefox
04:41:26 <bridgerton[m]> <Bon 💗> :pepe_weed:
04:41:40 <lza_menace> happened to me as well ofrnxmr, i had to close/open browser
04:48:44 <ofrnxmr[m]> Weird. Had to restart my phone. Working now
04:49:03 <ofrnxmr[m]> Ty 👌
09:19:11 <xmrlover[m]> Trocador.app is it good or not and is it anonymous as it says it is
09:26:14 <DanIsnotthemanBr> Yes, used multiple times
09:26:22 <DanIsnotthemanBr> And also they have tor address
09:39:07 <MajesticBank> majesticbank.sc 
09:52:52 <TheDisruptiveCol> i also use wizardswap.io but the fees are a bit high  
09:55:57 <ceetee[m]> <xmrlover[m]> "Trocador.app is it good or not..." <- by far the beat option currently. They are a swap aggregator, so you get always the best rate out of multiple options, and they only list reliable swap services, each with an individual rating
09:57:19 <ceetee[m]> if you use it over TOR you get better privacy then with any other swap service
09:58:05 <MajesticBank> better privacy then majesticbank directly ?
09:58:11 <MajesticBank> or other swap service
09:58:38 <MajesticBank> isn't it like a proxy ?
09:59:12 <MajesticBank> kycnot.me 
09:59:21 <MajesticBank> for list of real swap services
10:01:43 <ceetee[m]> yes, it is a proxy, so the exchanges don't even get your IP
10:02:50 <MajesticBank> but that proxy knows all about your transaction
10:02:59 <MajesticBank> address, amount
10:03:06 <ceetee[m]> and because trocador is a rather big player with good traffic, swap services are forced to remain honest or risk loosing that revenue stream
10:03:23 <MajesticBank> how is that more private, it's centralization of blockchain activity 
10:03:24 <ceetee[m]> I'd rather trust trocador then you
10:03:39 <ceetee[m]> they havent been caught with their pants down several times
10:03:45 <MajesticBank> forget trust
10:04:03 <MajesticBank> you shill centralization 
10:04:35 <ceetee[m]> you have a history of scammy behavior
10:04:43 <MajesticBank> kycnot.me
10:05:01 <ceetee[m]> ceetee[m]: obviously you'd recommend "forget about trust"
10:05:10 <ceetee[m]> if I were you I'd do the same
10:05:21 <MajesticBank> decentralization is what we should support
10:05:40 <MajesticBank> this is why monero is king :)
10:05:44 <ceetee[m]> Not using majesticBank is what I'd support
10:06:21 <MajesticBank> it's okay, I see we have different values :)
10:12:13 <ceetee[m]> make no mistake, I'm in favor of decentralization, that's why I recommend against using your service. You were the ones who published a shitty fork of cakewallet, wiped the commit history, build in privacy flaws (that are fixed in a newer version of cake) and modified the build script so it doxxes the IP of every dev who tried building it without verifying every detail.
10:12:14 <ceetee[m]> Yea sounds like a trustworthy swap provider
10:12:14 <ceetee[m]> muh decentralisation
10:13:21 <MajesticBank> thanks ofrnxmr[m] for your opinion, really appreciate that
10:14:05 <MajesticBank> I don't get how you get to vote at monerokon events meetings tho but it's okay 
10:17:13 <ceetee[m]> Always accuse your opponent of what you're guilty of yourself. This is the time where I should mention the 15 accounts that appeared in the #monero-events:monero.social  room for exactly one meeting, the one in which we voted on MajesticBank beeing a sponsor, and which were removed recently AT ONCE by the inactivity bot
10:17:13 <ceetee[m]> what a coincidence
10:19:30 <MajesticBank> ofrnxmr[m] , do they pay you for this or you doing this voluntarily, monerobull said he thinks it's not paid
10:20:06 <ceetee[m]> do you have time during the next monero space?
10:20:16 <ceetee[m]> I'd hop on just to say hi to you
10:21:52 <MajesticBank> it's just that I see notmath doing same thing, friends don't shill for free, know your value
10:22:15 <MajesticBank> you can holla me at monerokon or monerotopia
10:22:16 <ceetee[m]> what are you even talking about
10:28:46 <MajesticBank> https://imgur.com/a/gvhACie
10:29:21 <MajesticBank> I can't get just do you have some real problem or this is scripted by someone, can you share that with us today
10:34:11 <ceetee[m]> na dude, YOU are responsible for proof that you aren't shady as fuck
10:34:43 <ceetee[m]> <ceetee[m]> "Always accuse your opponent of..." <- this is strong evidance for bought votes
10:35:21 <ceetee[m]> The embedded proxy server is strong evidence for tracking users
10:35:58 <ceetee[m]> The fetching form your servers during build is strong evidence for tracking devs
10:45:43 <MajesticBank> I saw your post on twitter on exit scam FUD and that you vandalized our kycnot review section  https://kycnot.me/exchange/majesticbank
10:46:46 <MajesticBank> you harass me on 6-7 platforms man, you are just making more evidence who is bad actor in the community
10:47:02 <MajesticBank> shilling cake+trocador in same time
10:47:53 <MajesticBank> if you are doing this for free, then wow, congrats, I wouldn't spend so much of my life on something like this ever for free
10:48:01 <ceetee[m]> I'm sorry, you're mistaking me, I don't have twitter
10:53:35 <bridgerton[m]> <Bon 💗> I like trovador.app it's good
10:53:42 <bridgerton[m]> s/trovador/trocador/
10:54:00 <ofrnxmr[m]> Just saw the ping
10:54:11 <ofrnxmr[m]> Finished reading 
10:54:26 <Morpheus[m]> Saying Trocador is not good for privacy is just as saying VPNs are not good for privacy. Both help you interact with someone else, while hiding your IP. Trocador was built from ground up focused on privacy since day one. The user can access via TOR and I2P, still get the best rates and has been serving correctly users for months now. Users dont even need to swap with us, they can just get the best rate and trade directly with the best
10:54:26 <Morpheus[m]> exchange. 
10:54:29 <ofrnxmr[m]> Well, it was a nice run Majestic.
10:54:29 <ceetee[m]> <ceetee[m]> "this is strong evidance for..." <- proof: https://matrix.to/#/!gclBVGbCMQJYuMOAYr:monero.social/$nC4PKgOs0kvBouGlXEFXLIlFk66_1Py3F5vC7CgMUGg?via=matrix.org&via=libera.chat&via=monero.social
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10:55:01 <ofrnxmr[m]> Its ok everybody 
10:55:22 <ofrnxmr[m]> Majestic needs to kick and scream a little bit on his way getting tossed out, lmao
10:55:34 <Morpheus[m]> But of course, Trocador has a lot of good guy points from the community because it was built by the same person that built Moneroj.net and is delivering it for free for two years.
10:55:46 <ofrnxmr[m]> He's jsut mad because he has no partners and cant bribe anyone to suck his pecker 
10:55:48 <ceetee[m]> <MajesticBank> "I saw your post on twitter on..." <- look what i found!:
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10:56:03 <ceetee[m]> pluja..... hmm I've seen the name before
10:56:40 <ceetee[m]> oh yes, one of the accounts that showed up for one meeting
10:56:54 <ofrnxmr[m]> Its ol everybody.
10:56:54 <ofrnxmr[m]> Tldr. Dont use majestic 
10:57:21 <ofrnxmr[m]> And am I getting paid for what?
10:57:24 <ofrnxmr[m]> And from whom?
10:57:34 <ofrnxmr[m]> Speak up ya jester
10:57:40 <ofrnxmr[m]> I like comedy
10:58:13 <ofrnxmr[m]> Who's paying ofrnxmr 🍿 
10:58:20 <ofrnxmr[m]> Lets see these wild accusations 
10:58:20 <ceetee[m]> ofrn I'm having a ggod time
10:58:28 <Morpheus[m]> Have you guys heard? Using VPNs is bad for privacy because of centralization 🤣
10:58:30 <ofrnxmr[m]> Ceetre
10:58:42 <ceetee[m]> ceetee[m]: stop interrupting me 💢💢
10:58:43 <ofrnxmr[m]> Were you ofrnxmr?
10:58:46 <ofrnxmr[m]> I think he was saying you are me?
10:59:12 <ceetee[m]> implying at least
10:59:24 <ofrnxmr[m]> Ah. I was confused. Lmao
10:59:28 <ofrnxmr[m]> WOOHOOOO
10:59:39 <ofrnxmr[m]> I have almost many alts as majestic now
10:59:48 <ofrnxmr[m]> But my ALTs are so much more unique
11:00:00 <ceetee[m]> I'll take that as a compliment to be confused with you :D
11:00:16 <ofrnxmr[m]> I am just s bot, afterall 
11:00:38 <ceetee[m]> it was so much work to get the arguing between us bot accounts working
11:01:18 <ofrnxmr[m]> Not as hard as keeping majeticbank running!
11:02:43 <ofrnxmr[m]> If majestic thinks im being paid, why hasnt he tried to outbid my handler?
11:02:50 <ofrnxmr[m]> Cmon majestic, offer me some money
11:08:19 <MajesticBank> the account that vandalized kycnot section shilled trocador which was at that point 1 month old
11:08:21 <MajesticBank> https://imgur.com/a/LUZJc6d
11:10:27 <MajesticBank> and trocador is developer behind monero.com squatting  domain
11:10:45 <ceetee[m]> lmao what
11:11:07 <ceetee[m]> monero.com was bought by cake
11:11:35 <ofrnxmr[m]> Morpheus developed the UI of the website ya damn weirdo
11:11:52 <ofrnxmr[m]> TIL Majestic has never heard of a contractor 
11:12:43 <MajesticBank> vandalized *our* kycnot section with negative comments 
11:12:51 <ofrnxmr[m]> Whats your problem with trocador? Too much accountability? 
11:12:56 <ofrnxmr[m]> Shutup
11:13:19 <ofrnxmr[m]> Your exchange has 0 protitive previews lmao, who are you talking to??
11:13:30 <ofrnxmr[m]> Were not your ALTs, ya dumbass
11:13:58 <TheDisruptiveCol> most of these services are just money making businesses for those who run them.   Thats literally all it is  
11:14:01 <ofrnxmr[m]> Except majestic service doesnt even run 
11:14:07 <TheDisruptiveCol> They shil ltheir shit to make that 2-3-4-whatever percentage by shagging you up the ass on exchange rates   
11:14:10 <ofrnxmr[m]> And people end up with bad trades all the damn time 
11:14:28 <ofrnxmr[m]> Majestic just disappears for days on end 
11:14:33 <ofrnxmr[m]> Bullshit service 
11:14:45 <MajesticBank> show some respect man to this community, what this people worked for and built so far
11:14:45 <ofrnxmr[m]> every heard of WYSIWYG?? Yeah, majestic hasnt 
11:14:50 <Morpheus[m]> <MajesticBank> "the account that vandalized..." <- Is this a new conspiracy that I'm not aware of?
11:14:58 <ofrnxmr[m]> Conspiracy??
11:15:00 <Morpheus[m]> ofrnxmr[m]: Yes, exactly
11:15:01 <ofrnxmr[m]> Cant be
11:15:06 <ofrnxmr[m]> His exchange is shit 
11:15:11 <ofrnxmr[m]> Those negative reviews are real
11:15:15 <ofrnxmr[m]> Obv
11:15:23 <TheDisruptiveCol> BasicSwap basically just puts all these services to bed.   
11:15:27 <ofrnxmr[m]> Its harder to get positive reviews than negative 
11:15:44 <ofrnxmr[m]> And the fact that his vending machine eats your money = negative reviews 
11:16:03 <ofrnxmr[m]> TheDisruptiveCol: Basicswap uses comit atomic swaps
11:16:08 <ofrnxmr[m]> One way
11:16:10 <TheDisruptiveCol> ofrnxmr[m]: Yes.  
11:16:28 <ofrnxmr[m]> ofrnxmr[m]: Unless this changes 
11:16:29 <Morpheus[m]> MajesticBank: Trocador has never done any retarded tactic such as these. We just build and deliver... and our positive reviews are all from happy users
11:16:36 <ofrnxmr[m]> Fuck trocador
11:16:39 <ofrnxmr[m]> Traitor
11:16:42 <ofrnxmr[m]> 😆😆
11:16:51 <ofrnxmr[m]> (/s)
11:17:02 <bridgerton[m]> <Bon 💗> Wait really
11:17:08 <bridgerton[m]> <Bon 💗> What they do
11:17:13 <ofrnxmr[m]> Nono, /s means sarcasm 
11:17:14 <Morpheus[m]> If someone vandalized something, you guys should be serving better your clients. Certainly wasn't us. We dont have time for stupid forum posts
11:17:46 <ofrnxmr[m]> Dont lie morph, I saw you do it. Jealously will get you nowhere ! /s
11:18:25 <ofrnxmr[m]> You're jsut mad that majestic wanted to be delisted from trocador 🥹🥹🥹 /s
11:18:35 <ceetee[m]> i think bridge is slow ofrn
11:18:53 <ofrnxmr[m]> Im laughing my ass off over here 🤣. It cant get much more hilarious
11:19:02 <MajesticBank> it's worst when community give you finger and you want whole hand, greed is bad, it's like premine
11:19:14 <Morpheus[m]> Hahahaha
11:19:18 <ceetee[m]> I still don't know why they wanted to be delisted. Care to explain MajesticBank  MajesticExchange 
11:19:33 <ofrnxmr[m]> Because they dont like accountability 
11:19:40 <Morpheus[m]> No, really, if I only had time to create drama that would be awesome 🤣🤣🤣🤣
11:19:43 <ofrnxmr[m]> Doesn't matter. They arent listed anywhere anymore 🤡
11:19:56 <ceetee[m]> I wasn't asking you !!!1!
11:20:18 <ofrnxmr[m]> ceetee[m]: Stop talking to yourself 
11:20:21 <ofrnxmr[m]> We are one
11:20:36 <Morpheus[m]> Another thing we would never do is to tell fud about any of our partners just for personal profit
11:20:41 <ceetee[m]> get out of my head, get out of my head, get out of my head, get out of my head, get out of my head,  aaaaaaaaaa
11:20:43 <Morpheus[m]> That's absurd
11:21:16 <ofrnxmr[m]> DW. Twitter thread coming soon on "why trocador is windows"
11:21:24 <Morpheus[m]> My moral compass forbids me to do it. Even now, after we are no longer partners, I won't spread FUD about majestic
11:21:47 <ofrnxmr[m]> Mr "blue screen of death" exchange has a lot to say
11:22:01 <Morpheus[m]> I even defended majestic quite a few times
11:22:53 <ofrnxmr[m]> Not me. I have no morals. I got paid to fud majestic.
11:22:53 <ofrnxmr[m]> (ROFL. I fought to allow him as a cypherpunk )
11:23:01 <MajesticBank> I never addressed you, I said someone affiliated and it's obvious
11:23:11 <ofrnxmr[m]> Then he threatened to withdraw, now hes flailing like a fish out of water 
11:23:13 <MajesticBank> Not sure why you defend yourself
11:23:38 <ofrnxmr[m]> Obviously because hes guilty. Next question
11:24:22 <ofrnxmr[m]> Mr damage control via victimization lmao. Pathetic behaviors
11:24:30 <Morpheus[m]> Hahaha
11:25:07 <Morpheus[m]> I like to tell people good stuff from Trocador, that's all 🚀
11:25:57 <Morpheus[m]> Majestic is not even a competitor to Trocador. We dont see it that way.
11:26:26 <Morpheus[m]> We aggregate exchanges, we would certainly prefer to have another exchange by our side
11:26:58 <Morpheus[m]> What we do is provide a space for them conto compete and improve their services
11:27:13 <ofrnxmr[m]> Hey majestic, why was elitewallet proxy down at the same time as majesticbank
11:27:16 <Morpheus[m]> s/conto/to/
11:27:22 <ofrnxmr[m]> Liars gonna lia
11:27:28 <ofrnxmr[m]> Lie*
11:28:10 <ofrnxmr[m]> Hey majestic, why not explain the downtime instead of asking why you got bad reviews?
11:31:38 <MajesticBank> that post before monero events voting on seth paste was pathetic also, you are just making this case against bad actor in community more solid
11:32:27 <ofrnxmr[m]> What?
11:32:46 <ofrnxmr[m]> Voting on Seth?
11:36:03 <ceetee[m]> dude don't you remember the famous traitor voting?! \s
11:37:47 <ofrnxmr[m]> I dont know anybody by the name of "Seth". Sounds like a snakes name
11:39:08 <plowsof11> btw pluja is the owner of kycnot.me 
11:40:06 <TheDisruptiveCol> i feel left out, maybe we should all open our own clones of the same website 
11:41:13 <ofrnxmr[m]> plowsof11: Sus /s
11:41:32 <DanIsnotthemanBr> <ofrnxmr[m]> "Voting on Seth?" <- Banned word :/
11:42:19 <ofrnxmr[m]> Should have banhammer autokick anyone that says that s***
11:46:48 <DanIsnotthemanBr> Dns-blacklist s***
11:57:30 <monerobull[m]> <TheDisruptiveCol> "i feel left out, maybe we should..." <- https://monerosupplies.com/crypto-exchange/
11:57:52 <monerobull[m]> 😄
11:58:14 <rbrunner> I may be a bit out of the loop, can I read up something somehwere about the recent MajesticBank websites downtime? A post mortem maybe? Some background info?
11:58:39 <monerobull[m]> There is none
11:58:57 <monerobull[m]> (that I'm aware of)
12:00:31 <rbrunner> Hmm, alright. Seems that MajesticBank is active here right now, maybe they feel like commenting?
12:00:59 <DanIsnotthemanBr> Gl
12:01:58 <ofrnxmr[m]> Gl
12:55:06 <exCAT> on a scale of 1 to 10, how bad would it be to have the blockchain stored on a Hard Disk instead of an SSD?
12:57:08 <exCAT> also I now get this, any ideas?
12:57:52 <exCAT> https://pastebin.com/MXxL6P3B
12:58:15 <sech1> It's bad to sync, but it's ok to keep it running after it synced
12:58:56 <exCAT> yeah I synced it on an SSD then moved it to a HD
12:58:56 <sech1> It's good enough to use with your wallet (sending/receiving transactions), but not good enough for mining
12:59:49 <exCAT> got it, but now I'm it's refusing to start, any idea why, check pastebin ^
13:00:10 <sech1> Oh, I got it recently too
13:00:51 <exCAT> nvm got it working, my VPN was blocking the DNS
13:01:22 <sech1> it's because you added some priority nodes which couldn't resolve
13:01:32 <sech1> for me it was majestibank's nodes
13:34:06 <GorillaQuest[m]> Can someone explain the reason for meme coins such as wownero
13:34:38 <cockliuser[m]> Because it's funny 
13:35:28 <GorillaQuest[m]> I get it but why make a cryptocurrency rather than doing monero memes
13:37:33 <cockliuser[m]> Monero berry serious
13:38:03 <cockliuser[m]> Historically, wownero was created as the shitcoin exterminator
13:38:39 <cockliuser[m]> There were like 200 cryptonote shitcoins with premines and scam mechanics, one of such shitcoins was MoneroV, a fork with 1:10 limited supply 
13:39:57 <cockliuser[m]> Wownero forked MoneroV from genesis without the premine and scam mechanics and has since exterminated every shitcoin
13:39:59 <cockliuser[m]> And it's fun!
13:41:36 <cockliuser[m]> A bit of history: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2947912.0
13:41:49 <GorillaQuest[m]> can wownero be used in a fun way or is it just the meme because of the coin 
13:42:45 <plowsof11> iirc yo could use wownero to bet on a which snail would win a race 
13:42:46 <cockliuser[m]> Darknet snail racing
13:43:02 <cockliuser[m]> * snail racing (very illegal)
13:43:27 <GorillaQuest[m]> ohh ok so its some cheap ass coin that is basically garbage and u can talk shit about it since its worth nothing
13:43:41 <GorillaQuest[m]> kinda like rich people giving people pennies
13:43:54 <GorillaQuest[m]> For free
13:44:23 <cockliuser[m]> Ser it's a meme tipping coin, we haven't seen hyperwowneroization yet
13:44:33 <cockliuser[m]> Earning internet currency for memes is glorious 
13:44:35 <cockliuser[m]> http://suchwow.xyz/
13:46:04 <cockliuser[m]> Oh and did I mention, it's absolutely anti mining pool
13:46:53 <GorillaQuest[m]> so its like giving a cheap tip that looks like a lot but also is a funny coin to use
13:47:44 <GorillaQuest[m]> Because its cheap and has memes
13:48:29 <cockliuser[m]> We're getting our own world order soon
13:48:34 <cockliuser[m]> Just you see!!!
13:50:04 <GorillaQuest[m]> is it kind of like how reddit has awards
13:50:17 <GorillaQuest[m]> and they're internet points?
13:50:20 <cockliuser[m]> R*ddit
13:50:26 <GorillaQuest[m]> oh sorry
13:50:45 <GorillaQuest[m]> I was trying to make a comparison
13:51:29 <cockliuser[m]> can you buy acid with reddit points
13:51:48 <GorillaQuest[m]> possibly but not anonymously
13:55:46 <cockliuser[m]> Wownero is le anonymous with 22 rings (higher than Montero)
13:56:14 <GorillaQuest[m]> yea Montero 
13:56:45 <cockliuser[m]> Side topic: Zcash telegram has so much seethe, it's quite disheartening
13:57:02 <cockliuser[m]> Literally everyone's complaining about ZEC foundation and the funding money being wasted
13:57:10 <cockliuser[m]> Thank fuck we don't have any dev tax 
13:57:17 <GorillaQuest[m]> Lol
13:57:28 <GorillaQuest[m]> I dont know much about zcash
13:57:54 <cockliuser[m]> They have a 8% (formerly 20%) tax built into their mining rewards
13:58:09 <cockliuser[m]> Basically a transparent premine
13:58:20 <GorillaQuest[m]> oh yea they got to pay their centralized team
14:03:16 <Rucknium[m]> Isn't it still 20%, just distributed differently? We should factcheck
14:04:31 <cockliuser[m]> 20% for founders was for 4 years
14:05:31 <cockliuser[m]> it's still 20% but only 8% goes to devs
14:05:35 <cockliuser[m]> Everything else is for ECC's pockets 
14:07:16 <Rucknium[m]> "Taking effect in November [2020] during the coin’s halving, as per community polls, the new mining reward distribution will be as follows: 80% for miners, 7% for the Electric Coin Company, 5% for the Zcash Foundation and 8% for grants."
14:07:20 <Rucknium[m]> https://cointelegraph.com/news/zcash-community-approves-new-mining-reward-distribution-scheme
14:19:00 <cockliuser[m]> What's the best fiat on-ramp to Monero in Australia?
14:19:36 <cockliuser[m]> I have a customer from Australia but he can't get any monero lol
14:19:46 <cockliuser[m]> Localmonero sellers apparently don't answer at all 
14:49:03 <nioc> GorillaQuest[m]: wownero was created to take the steam out of a scam for, there were a few happening around that time     
14:49:07 <nioc> it somehow became a thing that people cared about
14:53:32 <nioc> for=fork
14:53:37 <nioc> monero fork
15:19:42 <ocean[m]> cockliuser: https://monero.stackexchange.com/questions/13400/monero-fiat-on-ramps-and-off-ramps-in-australia
15:24:48 <lza_menace> cockliuser: https://coinatmradar.com/country/13/bitcoin-atm-australia/
15:25:33 <cockliuser[m]> He did go to a ATM, it was busted 😵‍💫
15:25:40 <cockliuser[m]> Australia moment
15:27:25 <lza_menace> hehe
15:35:54 <xmrfn[m]> +1 for Adelaide, already immensely cool, improved even by a broken XMR ATM
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16:03:27 <r4v3r23[m]> if it wasn't obvious before, this should make clear that cake is trying to capitalize on the monero name and try to trick newcomers that they are somehow "offcial"
16:03:33 <r4v3r23[m]> s/offcial/official/
16:03:51 <r4v3r23[m]> how long will the community placate cake and tolerate their shady tactics?
16:04:27 <endogenic> wow someone else actually cares?
16:04:36 <endogenic> dont give up
16:04:52 <RavFX[m]> There tactics is approved by the Monero comity
16:04:52 <RavFX[m]> Someone donated to Monero so we can buy monero.com domain, fund where transferred to GF.
16:05:36 <r4v3r23[m]> > <@gfdshygti53:monero.social> There tactics is approved by the Monero comity
16:05:36 <r4v3r23[m]> > Someone donated to Monero so we can buy monero.com domain, fund where transferred to GF.
16:05:36 <r4v3r23[m]> go fuck yourself
16:07:09 <r4v3r23[m]> endogenic: its a silent majority. cake is the joke of the privacy-loving part of the monero community, the only reason they are accepted is bc of their constant bribes (aka "sponsorships")
16:07:30 <endogenic> thank you for saying so
16:07:50 <endogenic> i'm glad there is at least one person of functioning conscience and hope left here
16:07:52 <endogenic> remember moneo
16:07:54 <endogenic> monero
16:08:00 <r4v3r23[m]> they are affectionaly known to us a Cuck Wallet
16:08:08 <endogenic> lol
16:08:12 <endogenic> facts
16:08:31 <endogenic> .bbl
16:08:55 <r4v3r23[m]> s/a/as/
16:09:01 <RavFX> Argument was the getmonero was the choosen domain and a proper domain. Well, First time I got into monero, I got to check and do more research, was thinking.. what is that getmonero.org site and there is a monero.com site too. Is getmonero some kind of fake site or something? Doing research is good. But We really have a monero.com site that offer wallet and a getmonero site that offer wallet.
16:09:12 <r4v3r23[m]> plowsof: ofrnxmr and anyone else
16:09:13 <r4v3r23[m]> enough is enough
16:10:37 <RavFX> At least monero.com have a link to getmonero on top of the page, now
16:12:03 <ofrnxmr[m]> https://youtu.be/6Q7eojkd0H4
16:12:19 <ofrnxmr[m]> https://youtube.com/@monerodotcom
16:12:24 <ofrnxmr[m]> Looks official
16:12:42 <ofrnxmr[m]> I mean, looks like this is an actual cake channel. I dont kniw the host
16:12:55 <r4v3r23[m]> RavFX: only after the community had issue with it, and they give a small link as concession. dont be fooled, they are playing the same tactics here. if you cant see it you are blind
16:13:06 <ofrnxmr[m]> Lol it does say "Monero" as the channel name 🤦‍♂️
16:13:31 <ofrnxmr[m]> Oldest vid like 10 days
16:13:42 <ofrnxmr[m]> So not an old mistake 
16:13:50 <RavFX> Why Monero did not buy monero.com after receiving a donation specificaly to buy monero.com?
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16:14:16 <r4v3r23[m]> fucking pathetic. no one reads the "by CuckLabs" and they know it
16:14:31 <r4v3r23[m]> fuck this sleazy ass project
16:14:40 <r4v3r23[m]> tracking users IPs without consent
16:14:48 <endogenic> they did not obtain this position in monero without help from others
16:14:51 <RavFX[m]> They could have brought it and redirected to getmonero.org if they really want getmonero.org as the main domain, it would just prevent more leaching
16:14:57 <endogenic> it would not have been possible
16:15:08 <endogenic> if monero's integrity were not otherwise compromised
16:15:13 <r4v3r23[m]> endogenic: they paid their way in. its obvious to anyone 
16:15:15 <r4v3r23[m]> "sponsorships"
16:15:18 <endogenic> that's not the only thing
16:15:27 <endogenic> be alert
16:15:30 <ofrnxmr[m]> (Someone going to ping them?)
16:15:35 <r4v3r23[m]> i am. i know Cuck is an enemy
16:15:45 <endogenic> i know you are
16:15:51 <r4v3r23[m]> so does  the rest of the hardcore privacy part of the xmr community
16:15:53 <endogenic> i'm saying it's bigger than even that
16:16:00 <endogenic> i appreciate that
16:16:04 <endogenic> thanks for being there
16:17:09 <r4v3r23[m]> endogenic: besides SGP i dont know how deep it runs
16:17:15 <endogenic> good
16:17:18 <endogenic> keep lookint
16:17:21 <endogenic> g
16:17:37 <endogenic> consider the cia playbook of activist disruption
16:17:38 <r4v3r23[m]> but all i know is i dont like it. and monero users are getting fed up with them
16:17:40 <endogenic> who has been disrupted here
16:17:44 <endogenic> and how do they do it?
16:17:47 <r4v3r23[m]> oh yeah. totally see it
16:17:51 <endogenic> step 1: gain apparent legitimacy
16:17:58 <r4v3r23[m]> Cuck glows hard as fuck
16:18:03 <endogenic> step 2: disrupt activists
16:18:04 <r4v3r23[m]> you literally have to be blind to not see it
16:18:08 <endogenic> indeed
16:18:11 <endogenic> we are blind
16:18:53 <RavFX[m]> I don't use anything cucklabs anyway
16:18:53 <RavFX[m]> But I still find it annoying when I recommend monero to friends and when they finally try it they endup with cakewallet and ask me where is the desktop version of the monero wallet
16:19:27 <RavFX[m]> Because they don't read the small banner at the top of the site 😂
16:20:15 <r4v3r23[m]> fool me once, shame on me
16:20:19 <RavFX> As long as they own monero.com, they can call themself "Monero"
16:21:24 <r4v3r23[m]> fool me twice, shame on you
16:21:24 <r4v3r23[m]> something needs to be done here
16:21:25 <r4v3r23[m]> one plane is an accident, two planes are an attack
16:21:26 <sgp[m]> Jesus, calm down people. It's Monero because YouTube isn't letting us call it "Monero.com" right now, and we're in touch with their support to fix this
16:21:27 <r4v3r23[m]> RavFX[m]: no one does. and they know damn well that no one does
16:21:44 <r4v3r23[m]> thats not the fucking reason
16:21:54 <r4v3r23[m]> "its google fault" 
16:21:55 <r4v3r23[m]> fuck you
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16:22:13 <r4v3r23[m]> youtube forced you to type in "Monero" as the name of your channel?
16:22:40 <r4v3r23[m]> get fucked you compliant piece of shit
16:22:41 <sgp[m]> why would we not use the Monero logo if we wanted to impersonate "Monero" in its entirely? Get a brain, jesus
16:22:53 <r4v3r23[m]> shut the fuck up
16:22:56 <r4v3r23[m]> you literally used the name
16:23:05 <r4v3r23[m]> you know damn well what youre doing
16:23:15 <r4v3r23[m]> and so does everyone else
16:23:47 <sgp[m]> Go back to your wallet that leaks all IP data <3
16:24:03 <r4v3r23[m]> i dont use Cuck
16:24:19 <sgp[m]> I'm tired of people pretending everything we do is a scandal
16:24:21 <r4v3r23[m]> thanks tho
16:24:52 <RavFX[m]> Are you accusing featherwallet and the official monero wallet leak all IP data?
16:25:13 <ceetee[m]> r4v3r23[m]: stay salty
16:25:13 <RavFX[m]> * monero wallet "leak all, * IP data"?
16:25:17 <sgp[m]> RavFX[m]: I'm accusing their Anonero wallet
16:25:20 <r4v3r23[m]> no, hes just deflecting 
16:25:22 <r4v3r23[m]> Cuck literally pings their servers with your IP
16:25:22 <sgp[m]> because it does
16:25:59 <r4v3r23[m]> and you couldnt opt out until very recenty
16:25:59 <monerobull[m]> sgp[m]: Good luck with that 😂
16:26:00 <r4v3r23[m]> and its still default
16:26:18 <r4v3r23[m]> classic tactic, accuse the other side of what you are guilty of
16:26:42 <r4v3r23[m]> and i dont know how you leak IP using an onion node
16:27:11 <RavFX> Feather is nice. Monejuro too, they support onion very well
16:27:16 <r4v3r23[m]> must be nice sitting on loads of users IPs
16:27:36 <r4v3r23[m]> lets just pretend Cuck isnt the biggest honeypot in this space
16:27:38 <sgp[m]> I'm back to building a new release for you all to enjoy, and please DON'T use our nodes to save us a lot of money each month, thanks
16:28:11 <modul8[m]> sgp[m]: im tired of seeing it. i dont use cake. but its been pretty cool to see an easy way to use monero.
16:28:12 <RavFX> How using you're nodes save me money?
16:28:27 <lza_menace> save them money
16:28:37 <sgp[m]> Yeah, save us on the bandwidth bill
16:28:39 <sgp[m]> :)
16:28:39 <lza_menace> less usage and requirement to run big machines to serve wallet traffic
16:28:52 <lza_menace> don't think monerujo calls home. nodes come stock w/ app. feather does communicate to websocket server run by tobtoht and dsc_, but default routes over tor
16:29:08 <RavFX> oups, missread lol. I do use my own anyway lol
16:29:11 <sgp[m]> monerod is so well optimized it can be run on a terrible CPU, that is great. Bandwidth is the real cost
16:29:12 <r4v3r23[m]> > defaults to collecting IP on their own servers
16:29:15 <ofrnxmr[m]> Websocket is enabled by default on feather too
16:29:18 <r4v3r23[m]> > tells users to not connect to their node as if its their problem
16:29:21 <r4v3r23[m]> you cant make this shit up
16:29:22 <lza_menace> important to keep in mind Cake Labs is first and foremost a for-prodit enterprise
16:29:30 <lza_menace> s/prodit/profit/
16:29:42 <r4v3r23[m]> absolutely
16:29:53 <RavFX> Yeah, Just running a node I get like 8TB for 2 week (the last time I resetted the BW counter and checked)
16:29:55 <r4v3r23[m]> this whole monero dot com is purely to capitalize on monero's rep and name
16:29:56 <r4v3r23[m]> to profit
16:30:04 <modul8[m]> im sure they use some of the profit to help montero
16:30:14 <r4v3r23[m]> aka bribes
16:30:27 <RavFX> monero.com is a good way to redirect new use to cake yeah...
16:30:27 <lza_menace> would be good to prioritize open source, community efforts like official monero gui and cli, feather, monerujo in public places
16:30:43 <r4v3r23[m]> absoltely
16:30:55 <r4v3r23[m]> instead, they try to attack grassroots cypherpunk projects
16:31:10 <lza_menace> agree w/ above discourse, would encourage more civility, less name calling, detracts from your argument regardless of how solid it is
16:31:40 <ofrnxmr[m]> Wownero HF tomorrow 🥳
16:31:50 <r4v3r23[m]> <sgp[m]> "I'm accusing their Anonero..." <- 👆️
16:32:04 <ofrnxmr[m]> Raver, is the proxy all good now?
16:32:08 <modul8[m]> i wonder what would happen if cake bought monero.org. world war 3?
16:32:18 <r4v3r23[m]> ofrnxmr: can you clarify what data Cuck was collecting up until very recently?
16:32:38 <r4v3r23[m]> and how long it took to do anythign about it, and what current behavoiour is?
16:33:12 <sgp[m]> Cake never has collected anything
16:33:22 <r4v3r23[m]> ofrnxmr[m]: onion nodes encouraged in app. clearnet node proxy connection will be fixed soon
16:33:25 <ofrnxmr[m]> Cant say collecting, but had access to basic data like IP, time connection was made, perhaps the fiat exchange pair 
16:33:36 <r4v3r23[m]> sgp[m]: go back to "building" please
16:34:22 <ofrnxmr[m]> But, I do appreciate the onion features for exchanges and fiat rates now.
16:34:22 <ofrnxmr[m]> Also, cakepay is a different beast in regards to what is collected etc
16:34:32 <ofrnxmr[m]> But cakepay connections are manual 
16:34:42 <r4v3r23[m]> lza_menace: it would be great if more people actually spoke up
16:35:49 <lza_menace> https://lounge.lzahq.tech/uploads/216eb6ca05216af9/image.png 
16:35:55 <lza_menace> who are reddit mods these days?
16:36:05 <ofrnxmr[m]> monerobull: 
16:36:37 <lza_menace> needmoney90, sgp, some core team?
16:36:43 <monerobull[m]> its hidden?
16:36:45 <monerobull[m]> since when
16:36:52 <lza_menace> :shrug:
16:37:00 <ofrnxmr[m]> Monerobull is your guy lza_menace @lza_menace:libera.chat: 
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16:37:13 <lza_menace> there is certainly more than mb
16:37:23 <ofrnxmr[m]> I mean, who can answer :P
16:37:24 <monerobull[m]> most of them are literally never doing anything
16:37:45 <monerobull[m]> needmoney and dEBRUYNE mvps
16:37:48 <lza_menace> monerobull can :D
16:37:51 <ofrnxmr[m]> Oh, its hidden because that traitor s*** name is there
16:37:56 <lza_menace> i trust most on that list
16:38:03 <lza_menace> forthelulz i thought was seth alt?
16:38:13 <monerobull[m]> yes
16:38:42 <lza_menace> anywho - i ask to make sure the mods were impartial. i recall sgp being one who i know works for cake now. good to see neutral names and trusted community peeps
16:38:51 <lza_menace> seems like the subreddit is one of the central places of info
16:39:07 <ofrnxmr[m]> Its mostly bull and needmoney doing most of the mod work
16:39:11 <lza_menace> cursory glance seems like cake is all over the sub, very active and promoting events, apps, work, etc
16:39:33 <lza_menace> definitely have tentacles all over 
16:40:21 <xmrfn[m]> "tentacles"? when ordinary humans post in a lot of places do we also have "tentacles"?
16:40:21 <monerobull[m]> they havent come to monero.house yet 😢
16:40:34 <lza_menace> only if you come representing a for-profit enterprise i guess
16:43:08 <r4v3r23[m]> its known that cuck has a hold on the mainstream community (reddit, twitter, monerotopia) etc. thats why there are so many alternative XMR communities, they hate cuck and see it as an attack on monero
16:43:18 <r4v3r23[m]> but its still a shame that they can continue roping in new users in such a sleazy way
16:44:15 <r4v3r23[m]> and i find it strange that in private so many people will express their annoyances, but in public spaces they tip toe around the issue
16:48:31 <ceetee[m]> <lza_menace> "definitely have tentacles all..." <- there are other subreddits for that
16:48:43 <lza_menace> lmao
16:48:43 <RavFX> Ah cool, when I type "Monero" on google I don't see monero.com, at least, not in the 3 first pages, and getmonero is the first result. Don't know if it's a fluke
16:48:45 <lza_menace> r34?
16:51:02 <xmrfn[m]> Well for a decade or more peoples' blogs, Tweets, and Stackoverflow posts have referenced getmonero.org
16:51:15 <xmrfn[m]> so that's pretty authoritative
16:51:29 <xmrfn[m]>  * Well for a decade-ish peoples' blogs, Tweets, and Stackoverflow posts have referenced getmonero.org
16:51:58 <lza_menace> sgp[m]: finally got around to removing regional cake nodes on monero.fail - just have the dns round robin one
16:52:25 <sgp[m]> lza_menace: thanks :) Those regional IPs pointed to our main IP anyway
16:52:34 <lza_menace> :thumbsup:
16:54:16 <xmrfn[m]> lza_menace: You do monero.fail? THANK YOU!!
16:54:25 <lza_menace> yee
16:55:00 <lza_menace> been out for a bit doing shitcoin things, but focusing more efforts on monero again. more of a hobbyist capacity though.
16:55:57 <lza_menace> might bring back moneropunks
16:55:58 <sgp[m]> Channel name is now MoneroCom
16:58:31 <plowsof11> https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/11fslu9/monero_general_fund_transparency_report_march_2023/ ""Last October we received a massive (2500 XMR) donation, and the donor expressed the intent of purchasing the domain Monero.com. After discussions with the current owner of that domain, we did not come to an agreement. If the person who donated 2500 XMR were to reach out to me, I am willing to refund this donation to them," continued 
16:59:54 <RavFX> I tought cakelabs was willing to sell monero.com to monero at cost
17:00:50 <ceetee[m]> yeah. But 400k is still a lot of money for a domain
17:01:58 <ceetee[m]> especially because it is a significant portion of the gf
17:02:31 <RavFX> did 2500XMR did cover the 400k at the time of the donation?
17:02:37 <spackle_xmr[m]> RavFX: That was their statement, yes.
17:02:37 <spackle_xmr[m]> https://github.com/monero-project/monero-site/pull/2013
17:02:56 <gingeropolous> lza_menace, i cleaned up the node.moneroworld dns entry. did you have a node on there? i had to remove 2 of them
17:04:31 <lza_menace> not sure. i mainly run seed node singapore.node.xmr.pm (51.79.173.165)
17:05:39 <lza_menace> has testnet + stagenet, plus hidden services for all networks
17:06:30 <plowsof11> i only have hidden services for mainnet :(
17:06:33 <ceetee[m]> RavFX: it did afaik
17:07:34 <plowsof11> ignore, i do , i was thinking about I2p public rpc
17:32:57 <r4v3r23[m]> <RavFX> "did 2500XMR did cover the 400k..." <- it was essentially "here, buy the domain"
17:36:41 <r4v3r23[m]> " After discussions with the current owner of that domain, we did not come to an agreement."
17:36:56 <r4v3r23[m]> plowsof: what was the problem? didnt vik agree to sell it for same price?
17:45:18 <ofrnxmr[m]> Need to ask bF what happened 
17:45:33 <ofrnxmr[m]> I think it was mentioned in the transparency report
17:46:19 <gingeropolous> damn my blocker script has 434 blocked ips
17:46:45 <Snipa> Whatcha blocking?
17:47:40 <gingeropolous> anything that tries to make more than 10 RPC connections
17:47:44 <gingeropolous> per IP
17:47:46 <Snipa> Ah.
17:48:11 <gingeropolous> but somehow 0.0.0.0 got added to it... jeebus
17:49:02 <Snipa> If you're using netstat to find them, might be the listening socket or something silly.
17:49:04 <lza_menace> yo snipa - how r u?
17:49:22 <Snipa> Fine, i start my new job next week, so looking forwards to that.
17:49:43 <Snipa> Need to go do some script updates to the nodejs-pool codebase this weekend before that kicks off.
17:50:49 <lza_menace> :pray:
17:50:51 <Snipa> Got everything together it needs for a 22.04 deployment, so those poor old ubuntu pools can update.
17:54:26 <someone-else> Hi everybody, who know how i can reset my peerlist ?
17:54:26 <someone-else> Because i want to use I2P but my node keeps trying to do p2p connections with clearnet nodes
17:58:46 <ofrnxmr[m]> What flags are you currently using 
18:01:54 <someone-else> --tx-proxy --anonymous-inbound and --add-peer
18:02:36 <ofrnxmr[m]> https://github.com/monero-project/monero/issues/7885#issuecomment-1221554944
18:04:29 <ofrnxmr[m]> Though I was thinking youd have to `--proxy=127.0.0.1:8061` in addition to jozse commentf: comment 
18:08:44 <someone-else> No i put i2p,127.0.0.1:xxxx
18:10:50 <selsta> you can't run your node fully over i2p
18:12:04 <selsta> you can send transactions over i2p with --tx-proxy, but it will still make p2p connections to clearnet nodes
18:17:54 <bridgerton[m]> <Bon 💗> For real is there anyway to avoid this from happening
18:18:45 <someone-else> Sad i tought it was possible
18:20:00 <selsta> you can run your full node over tor since they have exit nodes
18:20:09 <ofrnxmr[m]> --proxy and --tx-proxy are different commands
18:20:42 <ofrnxmr[m]> selsta:  I THINK (im not I2p guy though ) that I2p outproxy works like exit nodes. I really dont know though 
18:21:29 <selsta> i never tried it myself
18:42:08 <anonimauzanto[m]> > " After discussions with the current owner of that domain, we did not come to an agreement."
18:42:08 <anonimauzanto[m]> This is the type of thing that makes Cake seem disingenuous. "We'll sell the monero site for cost if you come up with the money. (but you won't of course)" -- comes up with money -- "Welllll we didn't really mean it because having monero gives us a massive advantage over competitors that's worth far more than the price we paid for it." And obviously the "massive advantage" it provides is the ability to effectively impersonate an
18:42:08 <anonimauzanto[m]> official monero project and associate cake with being THE monero project. I think the products provided by Cake are GREAT --- today. Who knows what will happen tomorrow. 
18:47:00 <anonimauzanto[m]> To be clear, Cake seems like a great product and I personally use it and recommend it -- today. Just don't act all innocent like omg who could possibly think we'll do some nefarious shit in the future. You're a for profit company that has an entrenched hold on the monero community if only because of the monero site and for profit companies do bad shit all the time.
19:01:56 <ofrnxmr[m]> Personally, if I, in good faith, said I would sell, and then was attacked with fud and people wanted me to sell so they could run me out of the community, I wouldnt sell either 
19:03:18 <ofrnxmr[m]> I agreed to sell in good faith. Not because people with pitchforks think I have to. I can literally do whatever I want. I, personally, would still sell. But not under the situation that "fuck ofrnxmr, lets buy him out"
19:03:59 <ofrnxmr[m]> Which ultimately leads to hostility.
19:03:59 <ofrnxmr[m]> If I DO sell, I also have far more money and power than you. Who's to say I dont say "fuck you" right back?
19:05:10 <spackle_xmr[m]> Cake has put themselves in the position of using Monero's name as their own. 
19:05:10 <spackle_xmr[m]> They can expect criticism as long as that continues. The same would be true for any other crypto company.
19:06:05 <ofrnxmr[m]> At least they didnt launch a coin called "monero cash" and called it the real monero
19:06:27 <ofrnxmr[m]> (Reference to bitcoin / bitcoin cash)
19:06:49 <ofrnxmr[m]> His about 0xMonero?
19:06:53 <r4v3r23[m]> > <@spackle_xmr:matrix.org> Cake has put themselves in the position of using Monero's name as their own. 
19:06:53 <r4v3r23[m]> > They can expect criticism as long as that continues. The same would be true for any other crypto company.
19:06:53 <r4v3r23[m]> 100%
19:06:54 <ofrnxmr[m]> How*
19:06:57 <r4v3r23[m]> the "we HAD to use Monero for our channel name because YOUTUBE wouldnt let use add .com to our name" type of excuses are pathetic
19:07:17 <ofrnxmr[m]> My only point is that people seem to think cake is going full throttle being malicious 
19:08:12 <ofrnxmr[m]> I giggle at that. Thats as far of as thinking mordinals spam is actually putting effort in
19:08:14 <anonimauzanto[m]> They're a for profit company going full throttle to be profitable.
19:08:26 <ofrnxmr[m]> If mordinals wanted to, they could clog the blockchain for weeks
19:08:43 <ofrnxmr[m]> "Im looking at bitcoin, but with dynamic blocks and larger tx" 
19:09:08 <ofrnxmr[m]> anonimauzanto[m]: Far from it
19:09:28 <ofrnxmr[m]> Full throttle that is
19:11:05 <anonimauzanto[m]> Maybe yes, maybe no. I'm sure they could do things that would make them more profitable --in the short term-- but who knows long term. From my viewpoint they definitely seem to be doing everything they can to make themselves as profitable as possible over the long term.
19:11:11 <ofrnxmr[m]> Still in 2nd gear 
19:11:21 <bridgerton[m]> <salami donators!> Ofrn
19:11:41 <bridgerton[m]> <salami donators!> Some dude keeps shillling his cringe coin
19:11:47 <r4v3r23[m]> anonimauzanto[m]: capitalizing on the monero project's name/rep
19:12:32 <ofrnxmr[m]> Salami, who what where when? 
19:12:47 <ofrnxmr[m]> I dont see it
19:13:35 <ofrnxmr[m]> monerobull:  you have discord ops?
19:14:05 <anonimauzanto[m]> > the "we HAD to use Monero for our channel name because YOUTUBE wouldnt let use add .com to our name" type of excuses are pathetic
19:14:06 <anonimauzanto[m]> I haven't followed the conversation but the main company is Cake (cake labs or something?) so why didn't they use Cake (Cake Labs) as their channel? That seems the most appropriate.
19:16:08 <r4v3r23[m]> according to SGP, its because YouTube forced them to
19:16:17 <r4v3r23[m]> * them to use "Monero" as their channel name
19:16:42 <sgp[m]> You can calm down, it's MoneroCom now
19:16:51 <sgp[m]> We have a separate Cake Wallet channel
19:17:05 <r4v3r23[m]> sgp[m]: of course, after you get called out
19:17:17 <r4v3r23[m]> easy mistake to make, im sure
19:17:21 <sgp[m]> and no, I never remotely suggested that YouTube forced us to use Monero. I said we couldn't use Monero.com
19:17:35 <r4v3r23[m]> so the natural option is to just use Monero
19:17:41 <r4v3r23[m]> jfc
19:18:39 <sgp[m]> Apparently we're supposed to just be penalized for eternity for this "scandal" of epic proportions. Seems fair
19:19:46 <r4v3r23[m]> keep acting shady, keep getting called out
19:19:47 <r4v3r23[m]> quite simple actually
19:20:06 <sgp[m]> This was fixed hours ago, find some other thing to talk about. You were here.
19:20:41 <r4v3r23[m]> shouldnt have happened at all
19:20:53 <r4v3r23[m]> which you know is the point
19:21:02 <sgp[m]> It's easy to armchair judge people who are actually putting in effort
19:21:26 <anonimauzanto[m]> Why bother creating a new channel though if you already have Cake?
19:21:35 <r4v3r23[m]> cry about it
19:21:45 <sgp[m]> Because this Monero.com channel will just be for Monero-related content
19:21:59 <sgp[m]> Cake Wallet will be for other content including Bitcoin, etc
19:22:05 <xfedex[m]> Calling a YouTube account named "Monero" is misleading and definitely shouldn't be done. However this was fixed. Where is the problem now?
19:22:08 <anonimauzanto[m]> Makes sense
19:22:10 <sgp[m]> So now you have a dedicated, Monero-focused, pro-Monero channel
19:22:42 <r4v3r23[m]> xfedex[m]: its a pattern that keeps happening
19:22:46 <r4v3r23[m]> sgp[m]: "pro Monero" is debatable
19:23:21 <bigslim[m]> Bittrex shutting down
19:23:39 <anonimauzanto[m]> This might be a horrible idea but what about putting something like "MoneroCom (for-profit)" or at least something to indicate that the channel content is produced by a for profit company?
19:23:53 <bigslim[m]> For all USA customers
19:24:12 <sgp[m]> it's literally dot COM :)
19:24:21 <xfedex[m]> r4v3r23[m]: Unless they infringe law, there's nothing we can do about that. Crying about it isn't really a solution.
19:24:21 <xfedex[m]> After all, Cake is a for-profit company, and it's acting like any for-profit company.
19:24:21 <xfedex[m]> If you don't like Cake (which is understandable) then there are many alternatives (Stack Wallet, Elite Wallet...)
19:24:51 <selsta> Bittrex, didn't they delist all privacy coins and then later relisted all of them apart from monero? lol
19:24:53 <anonimauzanto[m]> COM is so pervasive that it doesn't mean much anymore. This isn't 1995
19:24:53 <RavFX> Monejuro
19:25:24 <sgp[m]> selsta: something like that yeah
19:25:29 <xfedex[m]> Is monerujo still mantained?
19:25:33 <r4v3r23[m]> > <@xfedex:matrix.org> Unless they infringe law, there's nothing we can do about that. Crying about it isn't really a solution.
19:25:33 <r4v3r23[m]> > After all, Cake is a for-profit company, and it's acting like any for-profit company.
19:25:34 <r4v3r23[m]> > If you don't like Cake (which is understandable) then there are many alternatives (Stack Wallet, Elite Wallet...)
19:25:34 <r4v3r23[m]> are you appealing to law?
19:25:42 <sgp[m]> they got hit with a bunch of AML/sanctions-related fines
19:25:47 <r4v3r23[m]> so what is law = right?
19:27:10 <RavFX> @xfedex[m]: yes
19:27:21 <anonimauzanto[m]> Anyways, thanks for putting real money behind advertising monero and getting more people to see it.
19:27:41 <sgp[m]> anonimauzanto[m]: Thank you, we're trying
19:31:00 <vikCake[m]> <bigslim[m]> "For all USA customers" <- just got the email 
19:31:59 <vikCake[m]> <r4v3r23[m]> ""pro Monero" is debatable" <- Debatable?  We are always doing stuff for Monero. 
19:34:13 <monerobull[m]> <ofrnxmr[m]> "monerobull:  you have discord..." <- Yeah why 
19:34:31 <monerobull[m]> I'm not reading all the crap that was posted in here, give tldr
19:35:17 <ofrnxmr[m]> Salami on discord 
19:35:21 <ofrnxmr[m]> Says there is a spammer 
19:35:29 <ofrnxmr[m]> In xmr room
19:36:13 <bridgerton[m]> <monerobull> first glance, cant see anything alarming
19:36:42 <anonimauzanto[m]> ⏰
19:37:13 <anhdres[m]> <xfedex[m]> "Is monerujo still mantained?" <- Yes 😶‍🌫️
19:51:27 <bridgerton[m]> <salami donators!> It's some japanese kid in offtopic
19:52:27 <bridgerton[m]> <salami donators!> Keeps shilling his bad coin and calling me and cockliuser r*tards
19:52:42 <bridgerton[m]> <salami donators!> Some coin named litecash
19:53:32 <bridgerton[m]> <salami donators!> He's been doing it for like a month
20:14:39 <needmoney90> Ah, I got a ping about the moderation on the subreddit. I go through bursts of activity personally, my focus is more on the automation and work reduction side of things. Automod configuration, anti-spam filters, etc. In recent times it was mostly anti-spam, we had a period of time with (extremely) heavy bot activity and I was playing catchup.
20:15:14 <needmoney90> deb is the most consistent moderator of the group over a long period of time
20:15:52 <needmoney90> we added mb to the team during the deluge
20:17:18 <needmoney90> thankfully I managed to work some dark magic with automod that has mostly stymied the issue (but as always with filters, the caveat is false positives lumped in with the true positives)
21:37:16 <lza_menace> .tell
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21:37:17 <Wallet> lza_menace: I sent you more info va PM
21:37:23 <lza_menace> wut
21:37:53 <lza_menace> .tell e-mess hey man, hope all is well
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21:37:55 <lza_menace> hm