01:40:29 <feeman> hey, I was wondering if it's cryptographicially possible to produce a range proof of the amount of a single input and a single output of a transaction
01:40:55 <feeman> still going through zero to monero
02:28:39 <feeman> like prove that a certain output has X less than a certain input
02:30:55 <luna24[m]> Maybe?
02:31:07 <luna24[m]> Really depends on how the chain is setup tbh
02:47:46 <feeman> hmm
02:48:03 <feeman> is there a way to just prove an input amount
02:49:25 <hyc> that would defeat the purpose of blinding amounts in the first place
02:49:58 <feeman> Yeah but I just mean for a single input
02:50:11 <hyc> ...
02:57:52 <feeman> hey wait I have another great question
02:58:06 <feeman> can you make an output with 0 piconero
02:58:13 <feeman> or is 1 piconero the smallest
03:00:09 <hyc> you can make a zero output
03:01:15 <feeman> can you use a zero output too as long as there is another input to cover the fee?
03:01:46 <feeman> also I'm curious what happens on the UI side if you send someone a zero output
03:02:09 <feeman> like does their wallet ignore it?
03:02:51 <hyc> an output is an output
03:03:07 <hyc> it gets recorded, just like any other
08:20:46 <Infinity8> I'm using monerod. What should I be limiting my incoming and outgoing connections to?
08:36:11 <utis> what does it mean that a transfer ``spends more than one very old output''?
08:36:49 <utis> and what should one do with that warning?
09:23:19 <DataHoarder> utis: it's probably that observers could guess those are related outputs
09:23:26 <DataHoarder> probable*
09:23:44 <DataHoarder> you can send this to yourself once afterwards
10:33:05 <k4r4b3y[m]> someone should poke the monero debian package maintainer and get him to update monero binaries to v0.18.2
10:33:15 <k4r4b3y[m]> I hope it can make it to the debian bookworm
10:56:56 <plowsof11> what about v0.18.2.1 :( 
10:57:51 <plowsof11> i mean what about v0.18.2.2 :(
10:58:29 <k4r4b3y[m]> Tbh, I am content with getting the latest version into the bookworm, as long as Monero doesn't go through another network upgrade.
10:58:48 <k4r4b3y[m]> I think I can work with slightly outdated, yet consensus-compatible version of monerod.
11:02:15 <plowsof11> maybe poke him to remove it all together so people find his advice sooner (to use flatpak) https://www.kicksecure.com/wiki/Monero#Installation 
11:02:36 <plowsof11> outdated software sucks 
11:02:57 <k4r4b3y[m]> plowsof11: I still find using apt /comfy/.
11:03:12 <k4r4b3y[m]> plowsof11: no debate
11:04:32 <plowsof11> he even went as far as helping people update flatpak on whonix https://www.kicksecure.com/wiki/Operating_System_Software_and_Updates
11:05:56 <plowsof11> just to clarify , whonix = debian = kicksecure = same person/maintainer right?
11:06:12 <k4r4b3y[m]> plowsof11: that's my impression as well
11:06:47 <k4r4b3y[m]> tho I find the kicksecure confusing. Never seen anyone using it as a standalone distro. Afaik, it serves as the debian base for whonix.
11:39:36 <Guest26> hi
11:40:03 <Guest26> compiling last  commits i have "monero/src/cryptonote_core/tx_pool.cpp:215:11: error: 'struct cryptonote::tx_verification_context' has no member named 'm_no_drop_offense'
11:40:03 <Guest26>   215 |       tvc.m_no_drop_offense = true;"
11:47:27 <sech1> master branch compiles fine, you're probaly compiling modified code
11:47:43 <sech1> delete and clone repository again
11:49:36 <Guest26> ok
16:30:50 <lza_menace> never trust anyone with your money - https://nitter.monero.fail/beyondgoodnevil/status/1642582580703756290?s=20
16:52:17 <sgp[m]> You can FINALLY buy XMR directly with fiat in Cake Wallet and the Monero.com app. Non-USA, and requires ID, but baby steps :D The update also includes awesome invoice features in the receive screen: https://cakelabs.com/news/cake-wallet-adds-invoicing/
17:00:42 <sgp[m]> monerobull: approve pls: https://old.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/12apx2o/updates_cake_wallet_462_and_monerocom_132/
17:01:52 <monerobull[m]> sgp: have
17:01:56 <sgp[m]> thanks :)
17:02:17 <monerobull[m]> Very cool, what provider do you use for Euro?
17:02:22 <sgp[m]> Payfura
17:02:31 <sgp[m]> We've been very impressed with their responsiveness
17:06:35 <monerobull[m]> Haven't heard of them yet and won't use the feature myself but will recommend it if it's good :)
19:01:13 <tom-1> Hello. Please tell me if there is an alternative to this site without what we see in the picture))?
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19:01:31 <tom-1> https://coinatmradar.com
19:05:22 <tom-1> why not in f-droid?
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19:06:22 <sgp[m]> Does this site work without Javascript? They embed the same map https://www.cryptoninjas.net/bitcoin-atm-map/
19:07:36 <tom-1> sgp: Hello . Thanks for the info, I'll take a look now.
19:12:51 <tom-1> A little better by 2%, but also google trackers statistics, etc.)) thanks. If I find a better option, I'll post it here.
19:16:42 <k4r4b3y[m]> speaking of maps and fdroid, it would be cool if there was an XMR version of this: https://f-droid.org/packages/org.btcmap/
19:19:56 <k4r4b3y[m]> <lza_menace> "never trust anyone with your..." <- cool gesture that he returned them back: https://nitter.snopyta.org/bit_thanos/status/1642962971914821632#m
20:00:52 <lza_menace> what a boss
20:07:10 <lza_menace> glad it was truly just a joke
22:55:49 <orion_midast[m]> Hey, I am reading the mastering monero first edition. Wondering, is role of UTXOs on Bitcoin equivalent to the role of ring signature on Monero ?