01:00:30 rockso: could be many things. What's the exact error message? 01:09:54 And what OS 03:58:51 merope1: ERROR daemon src/daemon/main.cpp:364 Exception in main! Failed to initialize p2p server. 03:59:18 its on gentoo 04:00:50 If I leave the p2p port unbound, it seems to work fine, but it looks like lots of traffic is happening on 18080 04:27:06 youre doing it wrong 04:28:37 there is no ipv4 p2p bind flag for tor. 04:28:37 the flag is 04:28:37 anonymous-inbound 04:29:54 tldr. 04:29:54 exclusive over tor = no incoming connections. are you ok with this? 04:30:35 yeah, ive got that set to my onion address. 04:30:59 oh, I didnt know that it cant work exclusively over tor 04:41:13 it can 04:41:15 you just cannot get incoming connections 04:42:42 "yeah, ive got that set to my..." <- how? 04:43:14 you tried to bind the same port multiple times? 04:44:01 (p2p-bind-port and anon inbound using tha same port? lol) 04:48:35 in the config file. yeah, didnt realize the options would conflict. I figured it was possible to have it not make p2p connections via clearnet 04:50:20 it is 04:52:00 rad 04:52:19 instead of me guessing 04:52:19 please tell what monerod flags you are using 04:52:19 what lines were added to torrc config 04:52:19 and importantly, what is your goal 04:53:13 goal = absolutely no clearnet at all? 04:53:43 caveat > no incoming connections 04:55:44 yeah, the goal would be no clearnet. im assuming it wouldnt really function without incoming connecitons, right? 04:57:31 I pretty much followed the howto: https://monerodocs.org/running-node/open-node-tor-onion/ and then thought I could run it tor-only 05:07:45 There is also an guide but cant say his name 05:10:05 s/an/another/ 05:21:42 ff[xmpp]: Maybe this? https://sethforprivacy.com/ 05:23:17 Naughty you said his name 05:40:43 ff[xmpp]: Sry, i don't follow the trend... There are good guides... What's wrong with him? 05:49:32 seth RIP. traitor 05:50:19 s*** *. i apologize for saying Voldemorts name 05:50:41 "yeah, the goal would be no..." <- it functions fine 05:50:47 seths guild is weak 05:51:17 you only needoutgoing connections, but no incoming means youre somewhat of a parasite 05:51:48 its ok though...... a lot of nodes have no incoming simply due to being behind a nat 05:52:12 seriously though, seths guide is incomplete 05:54:10 "I pretty much followed the howto..." <- you need to change this guide 05:54:45 change rpc bind and p2p bind ips to 127.0.0.1 05:55:16 forgive my lack of understanding here, the node would send transactions, but how would it ever recieve updates to the blockchain 05:55:27 in peers to 0 05:55:32 comment out txpool 05:56:11 if does 2 way traffic after establishing an outgoing tunnel 05:56:12 rockso: outgoing 05:56:16 ah 05:56:44 but you can then ONLY sync with nodes who DO have incoming connections working 05:57:20 delete all of the add peer and priority nodes 05:57:53 holestly i dont like this config 05:58:34 whats wrong with listing all of peer and priority nodes 05:59:02 old garbage 05:59:15 is there a better list? 05:59:17 I use seth's docker images. I hope they're good. They do seem a bit bloated. Been thinking about writing my own. 05:59:18 not needed, probabl not even online 05:59:36 you dont need a list at all anymore 05:59:40 k 05:59:40 https://github.com/nahuhh/android-termux-monero-node/blob/9513c8bbdc07431327fa8d5ceaf407c17dd0107c/src/install-monerod-in-termux.sh#L219 05:59:57 heres an all tor config 06:00:06 change 9055 >9050 06:00:14 ok, I'll taka look 06:02:04 line 238 to 278 06:02:54 and in torrc change 18081 >18089 06:03:28 L218-237 are for android. can ignore 06:14:37 looks like the line i missed was proxy=127.0.0.1:9050 doh. seems to be working as expected now. thanks for the help, and education 06:16:59 not only that ^^ 06:17:42 your config cripples your rpc control by restrictibg and rebinding the main rpc 06:19:43 not req. 06:19:43 confirm exterbam, restricted rpc, public node, 06:19:43 in peers should be 0, 06:19:43 the torrc port must match anon imbound for "p2p" 06:20:07 but yes, --proxy is the one that sends everything over exit nodes 06:20:28 dw. its not properly documented 06:21:19 its also not great if everyone uses it. need nodes with incoming available to run a sustainabke network 06:21:53 is incoming doable with i2p 06:22:25 not that im aware of 06:22:40 its possible, not implemented thiugh 06:23:05 because of nodes run on a secluded network, it can cause chain splits 06:23:51 meanin, if using onions and eepsites, you cwn run into probkems communicating with thr clearnet 06:24:11 if syncing the blockchain over onion and eep 06:32:47 "I use seth's docker images. I..." <- This is gonna sound so script kiddie like but honestly if your not used to docker just have chatgpt help with the basic outline and just do all the final touches 06:37:01 Hell no. 06:37:42 I'm not an expert on docker but some of these Dockerfiles seem to turn like 10 lines of build instructions into moby dick. 06:37:57 And it makes me think I can probably do better 06:52:40 Yeh no 100% 06:52:46 Honesty docker is simple as fuck 06:52:58 Yeah 06:53:02 Iโ€™d say just read the docs and use w3 schools lol 06:53:26 Iโ€™d only use chat gpt if I was feeling really lazy 07:03:27 But look at this monster 07:03:28 https://github.com/sethforprivacy/simple-monerod-docker/blob/main/Dockerfile 07:04:15 * ki9[m] sent a code block: https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/libera.chat/397c50b392fbeed2f163b92983c9ffbbed9c6d91 07:05:03 Seth took his config from someone else and adapted it. Then the ai bots are gonna learn from that and create junk that we'll have to tweak to make work. 07:10:43 i do this: https://github.com/lalanza808/docker-monero-node/blob/master/dockerfiles/monero_nocompile 09:03:28 "because of nodes run on a..." <- I sometimes wish kovri was a success... 09:04:09 Really, using i2p for monero tx propagation and blockchain sync sounds sexy af 09:04:46 I mean, the monero nodes can be assumed to have high uptimes (hours, days, maybe months). 09:05:00 That makes them good for keep running an i2p node, too. 09:05:23 And why not use the i2p node they are runnning also for propagating the monero transactions and blockchain sync? 09:05:30 All on the invisible internet. 09:05:59 Come and find it. 09:23:12 whats to stop themfomblocking my i2p tunnels 09:26:11 7 layers of tunnels 09:31:10 "whats to stop themfomblocking my..." <- them who? 09:32:01 you mean the ISP? Afaik, it is much more difficult for your ISP to notice the presence of I2P tunnels. 09:33:06 from my personal experience, most of the time, the Tor circuit build-ability of my Whonix OS gets obstructed, whenever I am on a public wifi that my local city provides. 09:33:13 but the I2P works just fine on these city-wifi hotspots. 10:18:01 Uses hole punching? 10:23:04 damn I thought y'all were talking about Halo as in the game 10:45:26 "Uses hole punching?" <- I don't know much about hole-punching---I am only familiar with its name. 10:46:13 The reason it is more difficult to notice I2P tunnels, afaik, is that the internet packets that I2P uses are much more varied. I2P can route TCP/UDP, and in different packet sizes. 10:46:31 Tor, on the other hand, can route only TCP, and only in a constant packet size. 10:46:57 That makes Tor packets stick out to a network observer. 10:47:07 kittypity[xmpp]: Ping 10:47:36 With I2P, you are just routing packets with different protocols in different sizes, to IP addresses that are dispersed geographically. 10:47:56 kittypity: ping received. 12:25:13 "kittypity[xmpp]: Ping" <- Pong 13:13:25 "seth RIP. traitor" <- Well, at least he's staying true to his mission. Privacy. He's not, only a NGU noob, but someone who provide, in depth research, on privacy issues, and being pretty up-front about it. 13:15:12 ๐Ÿšฎ grifter 13:21:48 That dude has a long history in, this, our thing. The fact that he got a job, in a, what's it's name, focused company, does not erase past history. 13:21:57 ๐Ÿ˜” rather depressing that i even need to add /s when referring to that treacherous traitor.. but ill send this after you reply ๐Ÿ˜†. (insert > jeopardy music for my canned response.. oh boy. i hope its not a long reply) 13:22:41 Nah, I said my thing. 13:22:57 i typed that like 5 min ago 13:23:36 tldr... /s 13:23:59 ๐Ÿ˜† I'm on a 1G fiber, zero lag on my part. 13:24:37 its a canned response aka i wrote it, waited for you to respong, then send it immediately after you responded 13:25:41 I know Canned Heat, how does that translate to IRC? I'm confused. 13:26:11 canned response, like, an auto responder 13:26:39 You know. "I'm going up the mountain" ๐ŸŽถ 13:26:47 im suretheres another term for it 13:27:01 Never mind. 13:27:02 "๐Ÿ˜” rather depressing that i..." <- i think it's disrespectful to refer to him as a traitor. he contributed so much to monero 13:27:11 no, but i know when she comes .... #monero-offtopic:monero.social 13:27:26 ofrnxmr[m]: uberschnitzel 13:28:12 heinrich[m]: t r a i t o r is his first name 13:28:32 I don't even want to Google "uberschnitzel" ๐Ÿ˜ Explain yourself. 13:28:50 you didnt get the memo? he not clucking like a chicken for monero. fkn traitor 13:29:18 i likedhim better when he was stsrving, had no family 13:29:33 ofrnxmr: Dude! 13:29:36 when monero was more important than his kids 13:30:15 now hes all high and might "look at meee, i feed ny familllyyy", punk 13:30:47 hope he gets fired and has to come beg for ccs 13:30:56 plowsof @plowsof:matrix.org: help 13:31:31 im about to have to fight a bunch of the traitirs sockpuppets 13:31:43 ofrnxmr: When I'm about to get a blowjob, from a hot chick, I really don't give a fuck about charts, EMA and shit like that. But you do you ๐Ÿ˜… 13:31:50 ok. officially off topic. sorry rvrrybody 13:32:41 I appreciate Seth, but the "bitcoin has network effects, so I have a greater chance of reaching more people there" is a poor reasoning imho. Bitcoin having the biggest brand recognition isn't due to its technological superiority. Bitcoin doesn't have a technical innovation that grants itself the biggest network effects. 13:32:41 Network effect is simply due to social aspect of a network, not its technological aspect. It is mostly a matter of time, and a matter of people spreading the message around. Thus, bitcoin doesn't have a monopoly on brand recognition. Monero can easily be as well-known as bitcoin, and it will be. 13:32:41 But in the meantime, he has switched his work to a digital monetary network that actually helps the surveillance state--for what? Because it is "most well known" ? Eh.. 13:33:10 talker 13:33:15 go do it then 13:33:25 go teach seth how to do it 13:33:45 since youre the expert with 20k people who respect your opinion 13:33:56 ofrnxmr[m]: isn't he lurking here. He can see my message. 13:34:05 no 13:34:07 he isnt 13:34:18 lmao 13:34:25 he has better things to do 13:34:33 ouch 13:34:42 he hasnt been around in many, nany months publicly 13:34:53 he is very much still around though 13:35:17 i guess sarang is a traitir too 13:36:07 screw anyone who doesnt enjoy being stuck in the mud 13:36:17 im miserable and i want my company back 13:36:30 seth needs to drag us out of the mud, from the mudd 13:36:52 yes seth 13:36:56 specifically seth 13:37:25 ofrnxmr: Going all in. How about that community manager? We got plenty of examples of peeps doing what they think is the best forward path. Some more scammy than others. 13:37:51 fucking traitor better come back and starve, right? k4r4b3y: 13:38:02 yall are weird 13:38:20 ofrnxmr[m]: dude working in monero doesn't mean you have to be starving. 13:38:25 haha fuck lza too ! hes the king of traitirs 13:38:26 ๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿคฃ 13:38:47 mos def 13:38:48 those who do the most, fuck em! 13:39:12 i prefer them burned out like an overcooked pizza 13:39:17 k4r4b3y[m]: monero community has tons of needs unsatisfied. From dedicated hardware wallets, to automatic node setups, one can get into software projects in monero and get some chunk of change. 13:39:37 go do it 13:39:44 Looks like I'm not the only one, more than a few beers deep. Go for it! 13:39:47 ofrnxmr[m]: I might. 13:39:56 im sober actually lololol 13:40:02 you better 13:40:20 otherwise you shoukd really stop worrying about how the man feeds his kids 13:40:28 I'm not. 13:40:36 is he scamming you? no? ok so fuck off 13:41:10 or have fun trolling, like me 13:41:12 id lo e to hear your comments on surae or sarang 13:41:29 k4r4b3y: 13:41:48 k4r4b3y: You know, they do accept pull requests, right? 13:41:53 shoukdnt they be over here slaving away? fucking scumbad traitors, i tell ya 13:43:40 working on "firo" instead of seraphis. what a total pos. and surae? my god. this guy is the WORST. brought IN the traitor sarang! 13:43:40 life would be so much better if these people just died in our arms 13:43:57 ofrnxmr[m]: I am familiar with sarang's story. I don't know much about surae. He predates me in monero community. I understand his pains tho: he is a researcher with a phd in math (afaik). Needs to make a living somehow. Now, what do we expect from him? Can he code? Can he do electronics? No. He is a math guy, he needs funding for the product of his projects that deal with abstracts. That's why I understood his move into cypher stack 13:44:05 the creaky ceiling fan of sarangs just GENIUS MATHEMETICIAN 13:44:13 i think ofrnxmr just nested in a few thick layers of sarcasm and it's being misinterpreted 13:44:17 just screamed* 13:44:55 > <@ofrnxmr:monero.social> working on "firo" instead of seraphis. what a total pos. and surae? my god. this guy is the WORST. brought IN the traitor sarang! 13:44:55 > 13:44:55 > life would be so much better if these people just died in our arms 13:44:55 I think he can work in seraphis is monero community hired cypher stack, no? 13:45:14 he is 13:45:31 * I think he can work in seraphis if monero community hired cypher stack, no? 13:45:35 as i said, these damn traitors still do more than necessary 13:45:44 lol 13:45:52 let's hope those are our worst traitors 13:46:17 they arent traitors. period 13:47:46 the only person i know who acted purely of malicious intention was FUK 13:47:52 ofrnxmr: Asshole. We (probably not all) still loves you. Now go take a nap. 13:47:57 there ARE some shitty people around, but the cowardice running in all of out veins prevents us from calling out actual bad actors for fear of a confrontation. so, we take out that insucure nonsense on any and every slip up that the good guys do, or even andthing the good guys decide. 13:47:57 its real pathetic 13:49:06 okay, open up ofrn.. name the names, who are "the actual bad guys"? Don't worry, your secret is safe with me. 13:49:25 me 13:49:32 you 13:49:44 i like your list 13:50:08 ofrnxmr: We have, in the past, and will in the future, confront, and question everything. Don't trust, Verify. 13:50:20 we dont LOL 13:50:25 i do though, dont worry 13:50:54 many times ive watched everyone just whistle and pretebd like they couldnt see what was in front of their eyes 13:51:14 Okay, I'm out, mf'ers. 13:51:26 take care dude 13:51:45 salute 13:53:12 to the glory of monero1 13:53:20 s/monero1/monero!/ 14:02:30 sarcasm doesn't translate well in text form 14:03:03 ive learned my lesson. so the whole point of going 'extreme' sarcasm is that it is so obvious .. so laughable that nobody can bounce off of what you're saying in agreement 14:03:20 but when people agree with it its like oh my god 14:03:24 where am i 14:04:29 Cat is only here for the canned heat 14:04:35 please don't judge 14:05:24 oh, is the one who brought the heat no longer here? 14:05:51 who? 14:06:07 trasher 14:06:08 nioc <34 14:06:11 oops 14:06:14 minus the 4 14:06:38 plowsof11: ๐Ÿ’€ ikr 14:06:50 nioc been around since genesis block 14:07:06 thats why his name is coin 14:07:20 real satoshi 14:07:20 he came right after the bit 14:07:42 i thought that was mr Craig? 14:43:03 Hey nioc, it's TrasherDK :) 14:43:32 "hi, I have set p2p-ignore-ipv4=1..." <- TrasherDK @trasherdk:monero.social: 14:43:46 this is reference to twitter 14:45:23 This too: ```... (full message at ) 14:50:44 user was trying to disable ipv4 altogether, but im not so sure thata a good idea. easy way to get stuck on a pertitioned net 14:52:51 If you don't want ipv4, force bind to ipv6, or iptable she shit out of ipv4. 14:54:16 yeah, should be able to just disable ipv4 at the network level 14:54:57 but then they are looking for ipv6 nodes 14:54:58 probably only a smal handful, if any, online 14:56:38 I wouldn't know. I disable ipv6 on external interfaces. 15:59:11 i rewrote my node scraper to recursively find all nodes on the network for shits n giggles 15:59:24 took like 12 hours but it found ~20k peers 16:01:04 https://lounge.lzahq.tech/uploads/8ba1eeaf8970e5fe/image.png 16:03:22 nice, would love to be able to zoom map 16:23:10 pretty solid distribution 16:41:39 nioc: https://monero.fail/map 16:43:08 https://localmonero.co/the-monero-standard/weekly/48 16:47:17 lza_menace: might provide some for p2pool soon-ish 16:48:38 nice one lza_menace 16:51:17 none in north korea 16:52:24 wonder if the control the internet there? 16:52:32 ( อกยฐ อœส– อกยฐ) 16:54:04 does my position display on the map if im running a node on a yacht using 5g (asking for a friend) 16:54:27 https://lounge.lzahq.tech/uploads/93e66491d5bcb76f/image.png 16:54:30 SoKo chads 16:55:01 stay safe plowsof11, no boating accidents... 16:56:02 no, it would report as a mainland address where the carrier is routing 16:56:48 ah true, thanks 17:53:35 i doubt that you'll be able to receive a 5g signal on the ocean... 17:53:46 you could try starlink 18:27:32 hey 18:28:17 why --enforce-dns-checkpointing brings always "RandomX dataset is not enabled by default. Use MONERO_RANDOMX_FULL_MEM environment variable to enable it" 18:28:23 how to enable it 18:32:28 what Monero version are you running and what's the full command line 18:33:04 this message shouldn't appear by default, and dns checkpointing is not related at all 18:34:02 the last version 18:34:30 Guest50: which log level? 18:34:41 4 18:35:16 that's a bit high level 18:35:53 even without level log daemon crash 18:36:05 crash? 18:36:36 post a log 18:37:46 ok but how to enable MONERO_RANDOMX_FULL_MEM 18:38:43 that won't help you with the crash 18:39:14 MONERO_RANDOMX_FULL_MEM is an environment variable, you just set it in OS settings 18:39:38 i'am on slackware linux 18:39:46 how to enable 18:39:52 google it 18:40:20 you still have a crash to fix first 19:40:12 https://docs.samourai.io/structure.jpg 19:40:25 :| 19:41:54 lol 19:42:20 im giving it my best shot 19:42:42 That insta-taint the coin right? 19:42:47 but there's like 20 things going on 19:42:52 i mean, probably 19:43:12 i know you all know this, but man, i really like just having monerod and monero-wallet-cli 19:43:20 Washing machine 19:43:34 Washing machines are easy targets 19:44:26 Yeah they can block coinjoins 19:45:00 I think you have to ask binance permission if you want to send them coinjointed coins 19:46:56 https://lounge.lzahq.tech/uploads/dd02052b9dd9fce9/image.png 19:47:08 im afraid to fuck this up 19:47:27 Just use Monero lol 19:47:41 do unstoppable swap recipients check where your coins come from? 19:48:08 binarybaron had an AMA the other day on reddits uhm 19:48:08 Not from what I know 19:49:02 https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/12aq7ji/comment/jexe9ky/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3 19:49:09 ty 19:49:16 "Yes you are able to cancel a swap theoretically if you notice that the Bitcoin funds are "tainted". The user will then be able to refund their Bitcoin." 19:50:22 Monero condom it 19:50:24 so if whoever is supplying XMR for the trade is checking w/ chain tracing services, they could not proceed 19:50:34 *opt to 19:51:39 seems so yes 19:52:05 definitely* 19:53:14 I run coinbase node to verify ;) 19:54:13 Bitcoin wallets definitively need automatic coin checking functions 19:54:29 with option "spend clean"/"spend tainted" 20:10:14 "so if whoever is supplying XMR..." <- that's bitcoin for ya 20:16:18 "your honor, my client was just trying to buy some coffee beans with self sovereign digital money. this is all a huge misunderstanding!" 20:16:52 Monero version 20:16:52 No court case 20:46:28 just use majesticbank 20:46:41 they acceot dirty coin 21:51:52 "just use majesticbank" <- are there any news/explanation regarding their recent suspicious behaviour (website down, twitter deleted etc)? i just see their website being up again without any explanations 22:11:51 neg 22:12:08 nothing to see here ๐Ÿ˜