00:01:03 yes i don't want any satoshis i think number go down and satoshis glow bright hehe 00:02:18 yellow rock better for number go up and sitting idle than btc in my opinion 00:04:38 So yes we can keep the current long term median growth if we also keep the 50x surge in the short term median 00:05:14 namely 1.7x / 50x 00:05:23 I'm agnostic on this, but appreciate all the effort that has been put in on this topic 00:05:48 but I would prefer 2x / 20x or 2x / 16x 00:06:26 It is more strictly priced and give more time for the network to adapt 00:07:35 ... and we can deal with the longer term with a sanity median 00:08:31 I wonder where sgp went and what he thinks about the nodes already having lifevests argument? I wonder what Koe would think about your argument/idea as well? 00:09:24 spaceghostpurrp is into monero? 00:09:30 Koe has argued for node relay over consensus 00:10:51 There is a lot of emotion when it comes to scaling in my opinion because this is an ultra sensitive topic in Bitcoin 00:10:55 If it makes sense too Koe for livevests, node relay optionality, then I think that's a pretty good position long term 00:11:44 the only reason i was worried about it is that Monero fails if the chain gets too big long term, but looks like this shouldn't happen 00:12:24 Koe has argued for node relay over consensus, this was on another issue namely the tx extra 00:12:48 ahhh, I thought you meant on this same issue 00:12:59 Just to clarify 00:13:02 I'm curious to know what he thinks but am too scared to ping him haha 00:14:38 He was very much involved in the conversation before the last HF 00:16:53 https://github.com/monero-project/research-lab/issues/70 00:31:32 "I'm curious to know what he..." <- rude af 00:32:14 you think koes time us more vakuabke than artic or mine? smh. the utter lack of respect 00:33:35 in the future, dont ping me either πŸ‘Œ 00:36:35 I didn't ping articmine, he spawned of his own accord 00:37:46 i only started replying to him after he spawned. and ok mr. tough guy no more pinging you πŸ˜‰ 01:38:50 you did ping him, maybe not intentionally but still :) 01:39:50 the discussion made me test my internet speed, I just get the basic because they increase over time anyway 01:40:04 300Mbps unlimited 01:41:37 Been a long time I did not see non-unlimited plans. 01:42:20 "Tell me you live in the US without telling me you live in the US" 01:42:39 fr33_yourself[m] did ping me, with a valid comment / concern. In my view there is way too much emotion on the subject of scaling in Monero. This is to a very large extent due to the failure of Bitcoin in all its flavors to even attempt to deal with this subject. 01:42:51 lol, yeah, they have limited plan only in some "first world" countries as far as I know 01:44:39 Lol, Some canadian ISP still have a cap too 01:45:03 Hell canada, 70$ a month, 50GB cap lol, sometime I do that in a day without noticing 01:46:04 Monnero's scaling, adaptive blocksize spam control and pricing is dependent on the tail emission. Take the tail emission away and it all falls apart 01:47:19 I live in Canada and if one is on fibre many plans are symmetrical, with unlimited usage 01:47:41 Yeah, Fiber seam to be unlimited in most place in Canada 01:48:20 One cable or DSL it is an entirely different matter. One is lucky to 100 Mbps upload and yes usage caps 01:48:22 Still on docsis here (200GB coax for 30$ a months, unlimited) 01:48:54 The key here is the upload bandwidth 01:49:32 But i'm in latin america, there is no quota, even for cable. Yeah Upload is not as great on these but well, behind a crappy CGNAT anyway 01:52:29 If I where like 5km more in the city center I could get Symmetrical 500MB Fiber. 01:56:47 It is very much depends on where one lives. Here in the Greater Vancouver (North Vancouver) are I get 2,5 Gbps symmetrical over fibre, In West Vancouver one of the most expensive areas in Greater Vancouver I found a house listed for 24,000,000 CAD ~20,000,000 USD that could only get 100 Mbps upload over cable at best 01:58:13 Yeah, here too. 200MB DOCSIS here. Go 5km aim at city center you get 500 sym fiber then go to next City and you have 1GB fiber (some place still have docsis there in there) 01:58:46 So year some millionaires and even billionaires may have to rely on an improvised student renting a basement suit to rely their Monero transactions 01:58:55 suite 01:58:59 For sure out plan are less scammy thru. 35$ a month give you 500mb fiber (if available), while 55$ a month give 1GB fiber 01:59:22 That is very decent 01:59:43 And Unlimited LTE for 10$ a month 02:01:43 In any case this was not a waste of time for me because I hot some ideas on using node relay to accommodate lower bandwidth nodes 03:27:03 :) I just wanted free to understand what implication they made 03:27:39 which was that koe's time is more valuable than youre (or mine, since free pings me). 03:27:45 yours* 03:49:08 what is the current size of a full node? I currently have a prunee node for local usage but am going to start hosting a full one. I have 160GB free on my server (just for node/mining) but while syncing the blockchain I'm getting nervous that won't be enough, the data.mdb is getting big real fast 😬 03:49:16 s/full/_full_/, s/prunee/pruned/ 03:50:27 i think we're already > 160GB 03:50:45 shittt 03:51:17 For some reason my Rocky Linux installation defaulted the root partition to 75GB so I guess I have to reinstall so I can regain some space 😠 03:52:26 I'll just backup the current data.mdb so I don't have to redownload what I already have 03:52:28 166GB :$ 03:52:46 bruh you gotta be kidding πŸ˜‚ 03:52:46 Literally just barely bigger than my home partition 03:53:05 i keep a full node for myself 03:53:14 but my pruned node is what stays online 03:53:56 just personal storage issues without any tangible tradeoffs for people making use of my node 03:54:12 how far do you prune yours? 03:54:31 been pruned since initial sync 03:54:45 level 10 or level 11 prune? 03:54:50 pruning in monero is different than btc etc. 03:54:50 thr essential data is not pruned 03:55:13 a pruned node has everything a wallet needs to restore from block height 0 03:55:56 wait really. I guess I haven't understood monero pruning properly either 03:56:27 yeah :). 03:56:27 a full node is better if you need to poke around and do development or research 03:57:11 what's the point of running a full node then? Other than what you just mentioned 03:57:22 being a chad 03:57:31 Ohhhh okay I see you 03:57:40 being able to serve tbe full blockchain to anybody on your own 03:57:52 that is pretty based and monero pilled 03:58:27 if a full node wants to sync from pruned peers, it will need at least 8 pruned peers to build the chain 04:00:03 but, like a torrent, in theory it works just fine 04:00:14 that's interesting 04:00:27 I guess I'll probably prune mine then 04:00:36 except the leechers have the full kovie, subtitles etc, but orine 7/8 of metadata 04:00:42 I'll probably need to redownload I'm assuming 04:01:28 you can just add the flag --prune-blockchain 04:01:57 the currenct chain wont get smallet but will stop growing until the pruned node hits that size 04:02:15 i also use --sync-pruned-blocks becausemy node is lazy like me 04:03:08 if your current lmdb is small you can convert it to a pruned chain quite quickly but this will create a 2nd lmdb file in another folder , maybe pruned , but im half awake 04:03:28 then delete the old bloated one. or as above, continue from here as pruned 04:07:57 I ran monero-blockchain-prune 04:09:44 the original non-pruned database is somewhere in your ~/.bitmonero folder 04:10:11 I don't see any extra file, I still only have the same data.mdb 04:10:35 it was already relatively small at 37GB 04:11:12 im almost certain the old database remains + pruned one but im .bbl 04:13:05 moneromooo made monero-blockchain-prune fast AF .bbl 04:16:12 yeah it's not growing nearly as fast as before 04:18:11 tux, is your system clock fucked? 04:18:22 showing your messages as 4hrs in the past 04:38:13 Matrix seems to be doing this retarded thing where it shows everyone's timestamps for their timezone 04:45:48 "Matrix seems to be doing this..." <- your server is probably doing a weird thing 04:50:58 oh I was assuming it was a client side thing, I should have said element 04:51:01 yo why monero gui is not available on macos with apple silicone chip (the new ones) 04:51:12 there is only for intel version 04:51:41 is M2 too powerful for monero so that's why they avoid it? 04:51:44 kinda disappointed 04:52:03 apple cpu are powerful and efficient but sadly can't mine monero 04:52:08 too powerful? that's definetely not why 04:52:21 they probably haven't ported it to apple silicon 06:23:01 * tuxsudo[m] uploaded an image: (45KiB) < https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/tux.pizza/UnVRtoHkiFBRBbLucBiZcDkc/image.png > 06:23:02 idk why but the server crashed I think I'm screwed πŸ˜“ 07:40:54 for monerod? 07:54:55 start with --db-salvage once 07:58:08 Dear friends, I have a question about private testnet : https://github.com/monero-project/monero/issues/8821, I don't know how to solve it😭 08:06:48 "ofrnxmr, in the gifs, how is the..." <- It is in bytes. 08:06:59 Just caught up on the block size conversation. Glad to see the discussion. 08:10:06 ofrnxmr[m]: yeah I had tried that but it didn't do anything 08:12:21 I'll just have to delete the database I guess, it was almost done πŸ‘ΏπŸ‘Ώ 08:16:17 hanser "thank you for enabling background mining" - repeat with new wallets and don't enable this 08:17:17 Ok, I will close this and test again, thanks 08:17:44 dont have to close it , 08:17:57 😳 08:18:16 close means 'im going to re-open another' 08:18:41 just test without enablling background mining 08:18:44 ok 08:25:30 alwayslike, just follow instructions udsually works 08:25:59 make your own modifions after, so you know what you broke 08:27:25 also mining on a virtual machine 🀷 so hardware/resources are suspect 08:29:03 * hanser[m] uploaded an image: (310KiB) < https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/matrix.org/AiSlxhiIKqOTbkaKFCXVSalx/image.png > 08:29:07 mining has a busy error😒 08:30:16 fr33_yourself: I see the confusion. The numbers are in scientific notation, check the 1eX value at the top of some graphs. If you see 1e6 it is MB, 1e9 is GB, etc. 08:31:38 daemon 0 in 0 out connections 08:31:48 youbhave ^ 08:33:25 oh,I will make another two nodes and wallets to test.. 08:33:26 lol @ "+invalid" https://github.com/monero-project/monero/issues/6413 08:40:55 What’s the latest on monero? I’m trying to figure out why it’s price isn’t waaaay higher like in the 4 figures at least 08:45:29 * hanser[m] uploaded an image: (161KiB) < https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/matrix.org/tpglwvTOMSlHtYnULlItlaMX/image.png > 08:45:32 its still has this error:... (full message at ) 08:46:55 start monerod (release) and try start_mining 08:47:20 ignoring all this private testnet stuff, just try and mine with monerod on your virtual machine 08:49:12 😭 08:49:45 "What’s the latest on monero? I’m..." <- latest on monero afaik: discussion about how to counter mordinals bloating up the blockchain with irrelevant data. discussion about how to counter coinbase txos decreasing effective ring size. 08:50:27 no time for tears hanser , lets get testing 08:50:27 long term ongoing discussions: seraphis + jamtis upgrade. full membership proofs related curve discussions. 08:51:05 is Amir still chiming in the discussions related to full membership proofs (fmp) ? 08:51:17 I am not seeing him commenting on the github thread anymore/ 08:53:15 Amir was at the MRL meeting on 5-APR. If you read the log you can see what he is working on: github.com/monero-project/meta/issues/822 08:53:18 "ignoring all this private..." <- but in Monero(release), it need to synchronize blockchain data.My computer don't have enough storage space 08:53:57 how much storage space do you have 08:53:59 hardware specs ^ 08:54:28 ./monerod --testnet --prune-blockchain 08:55:38 I learned online that the complete Monero blockchain data requires about 100 GB, but my virtual machine currently has less than 10 GB of storage space. 08:55:56 "What’s the latest on monero? I’m..." <- regarding xmr price: monero needs more people shillin' it. say whatever you want about bitmaxis, but bitstein was right about one thing: "shill, shill, shill. You were born to shill..." 08:56:44 lmao 08:56:48 We know that Monero is the best thing since bitcoin ( it is waay better than bitcoin), and it can alter the current surveillance-oppression based society much more fundamentally than bitcoin hopes to. 08:56:52 seth u fkn traitir 08:56:58 get shilling 08:57:03 --testnet --prune-blockchain is ~10GB . you can start_mining with that to see if your virtual machine that you have been avoiding bothering to tell me the specs of 08:57:22 can actually start a mining thread 08:57:29 no.what monero needs is to be taken seriously 08:57:57 nobody cares about privacy or blockchain 08:58:03 noooobody 08:58:21 they want they visa to work, got it? 08:58:32 merchantswant to get paidand not raped 08:58:32 Ok, I will try this.I also suspect that it might be an issue with the virtual machine, but I only have one Windows computer, so I have to use a virtual machine to run it. ThanksπŸ˜€ 08:58:53 ofrnxmr[m]: I am not disagreeing. Shilling simply means it has visibility. It is heard. Being taken seriously is also important, and it will come with Monero being used to exit the current oppressive system. But before that, before other anarchists use Monero in "serious stuff" Monero needs to be heard. 08:59:41 hanser: come to #monero-support:monero.social if it gets too noisy here 08:59:42 nobody cares about fighting oppression 08:59:58 mcdonalds doesnt give half ashit what our values are 09:00:13 "doesit work? reliably? whatsthe catch?" 09:00:13 Ok 09:00:48 when micky deez pays employeed using xmr, you have adoption 09:01:46 ofrnxmr[m]: most people wouldn't say they are fighting oppression. But the way they act shows that they want ways to act without the stupid regulations of our political and economical system. 09:01:58 when employees get micky deez to "accept" xmr (immediately market sold on binance) is just cope and head pat 09:02:11 ofrnxmr[m]: tbh I don't give a shit about mcd accepting xmr 09:02:28 andyou want to talk about hobbist 09:02:36 naive 09:03:14 why is xmr small? because theresnothing but consumers in xmr 09:03:14 obv 09:03:51 no powerful entitieswant to touch something with utility that threatens the gane 09:04:31 Monero needs its own "Silk Road" moment. To show, and inspire other people that there are ways to do business, to organize society, without the usual way that's been pushed on us since we are born. 09:04:55 no, monero just needs one large entity to deployit lol 09:05:00 did silk road have a happy ending 09:05:14 yall really like this underground broke joke nonsense 09:05:25 silk road is aclown show 09:05:33 dumbestcriminal in history 09:06:10 plowsof11: doesn't matter... what matters is it happened. It was a serious threat to the system that its founder got twice life sentence. Silk road is an example that the system is not all powerful, and can be defeated. It is an inspiring heroic story. 09:06:11 monero need not attach itself to any ideal aside from being fungible ecash 09:06:25 threat my ass lmao 09:06:39 silk road never threatebed a damn thing 09:06:42 ffs 09:06:56 why do outsiders always have such huge opinions 09:07:01 ofrnxmr[m]: care to explain this, mr genius? 09:07:01 walk it a lil 09:07:31 geniuses can explain things to kids,im not that smart 09:08:26 ..... seriously though, pretty self explanatory and self fulfilling prophecy 09:08:33 there is nothing to explain 09:08:37 so you are just throwing ridicule at others' opinions 09:08:45 if there is, i dont know hiw to make it more clear 09:08:46 without explaining your own counter position 09:08:50 cool enough. 09:09:04 i thriw rudcuke at opinions, yes,of course 09:09:45 if that's what you understand about having a discussion... 09:10:01 i prefer not to hear opinions as if they were matter of fact or had any foundation or substabce 09:10:26 opinionsare what ther are, baseless 09:10:53 it is easy to say "that's stuupid duude".. the point is, do you have substance behind your ridicule, or not. If not, you are just crowding the chat 09:11:09 you can DM me your ridicules 09:11:27 ill post my phone soon 09:11:54 k keep me posted 09:12:31 but yes, im 100% serious in what i said about it trickling down,not up 09:12:36 for the others, I am still of the opinion that Monero has very little visibility for the counter-culture. Example: canadian truckers and their (try to) use of bitcoin to skirt the donation bans. 09:13:01 these truckers should've heard about monero /already/ and have tried using XMR, not btc. 09:13:20 do you think the organizers dudnt know? 09:13:32 ill tell you a secret - they knew 09:14:20 you think those truckers did something ? 09:14:20 tell you a secret - they did nothing 09:14:39 secret = secret = the shit you hear on tv is hilarious 09:15:34 theres more to the story than blablah 09:15:34 this was he mob+ politicuans vs the federal g9vernment 09:15:34 has NOTHING to do withtruckers or freedom 09:15:51 and nobody usedxmr because it wasalways an inside job 09:15:58 ofrnxmr[m]: show me a piece of evidence the organizers knew about xmr, and had the intention to wield it for their protesting activities. 09:16:14 whenxmr was eventually adopted, it didnt make it to truckers 09:16:27 eventually? 09:16:31 k4r4b3y[m]: πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚ 09:16:41 XMR should've been the "first" choice. 09:16:58 ofrnxmr[m]: show me an xmr donation address you asshat 09:16:59 youd like to see my personal correspondence with prople spending time behind bars ? yeah ok 09:17:21 what is a silk road moment for monero, like, if a darknet market said 'we're going monero only' or , if monero started to become more popular than coins like bitcoin there? 09:17:49 thats already happened πŸš€ i guess we mooned 09:17:55 ohh wow 09:18:23 k4r4b3y[m]: for the truckers? you can find it on google yo 09:19:20 do you think they didnt have one? 09:19:21 plowsof11: No that ship has sailed. DNM's have lost their novelty, Silk Road was a first time event. Now nobody from the general public cares about the DNM's going full-XMR, because, as I said, DNMs are old news. For Monero's Silk Road moment, it has to be something original. It has to be something never seen before. It has to show a new way of organizing a small society around some economical activity that is outside the current system. 09:20:15 the xmr moped club of alaska 09:20:43 arrrrrr we shoukd be pirates matey 09:20:52 gimmicks lolol 09:20:59 so silk road was a fad now 09:21:11 terrible opinion 09:21:13 dnm** are a fad 09:21:30 torrents are a fad too 09:21:46 so is seths love for xnmr(fuckin traitir) 09:22:00 Ban! 09:22:05 k4r4b3y[m]: an example of this could've been 3D printed gun community, deterrence dispensed, and Monero. We know that JStark1809 had a Monero address from the /beginning/. The 3D printed guns, especially of the caliber fgc-9 were something new, shocking, and revolting. XMR could've had good PR if there was a stronger synergy. 09:22:18 k4b i hope you know im never like mador whatever 09:22:31 evenwhen im rude im usually trying to be plauful 09:22:34 playful 09:23:15 k4r4b3y[m]: poskkt 09:23:20 tbh fgc-9 is now used for fighting against the Myanmar government that had a coup, so I guess it is getting used. Nobody knows about the Monero side of things tho 09:23:42 bridgerton[m]: I agree. 09:24:17 anyways. I gotta keep working. Ping me your opinions 09:24:31 never 09:25:07 "Canada Sanctions 34 Crypto Wallets Tied to Trucker 'Freedom Convoy' 09:25:07 Bitcoin, Ethereum, Litecoin, Monero and Cardano addresses are all on the list." 09:25:17 my opinions remain questions until they are no longer opinions 09:25:21 cardano lets gooo 09:25:55 i dont have an opinion that they used xnr. they did. i state facts 09:26:29 I would happily vacation at the seasteading micronation of Moneroland. The sushi should be cheap. 09:27:02 monerokon couldhave bought an islsnd by now 09:27:12 like 250k a year lol 09:27:12 before i start searching suspect things... isnt there a group of bitcoinenrs who are into guns? the traitor done some outreach there? and they started moving toward Monero for obvious reasons? for legally purchasing firearms 09:27:12 I once looked at the total donations that they reported getting received and the amount on transparent chains and xmr seemed to have had maybe half of the donations, several millions. So I think Monero was getting used for donating to the truckers. That or they misreported their number/included fiat donations 09:27:27 bridgerton[m]: s t o l e n 09:28:35 truckers didnt get a piconero 09:28:54 lol by whom? organizers? 09:29:05 yes 09:29:14 also I think they were pretty much soft-blocked from sending their bitcoins either way 09:29:41 "Guns N' Bitcoin" is a 3D printing and Bitcoin conference, but they use/take Monero. Last year they said that more people paid with Monero than BTC. Seth gave a talk there last year. 09:29:56 yes spackle_xmr thank you k4r4b3y 09:30:23 I’d buy a jet 09:30:35 k4r4b3y thinks mollys monero wallet sdk is written in rust 09:30:37 So i can put my node in it 09:30:56 and wants people to provide evidence for things they say 09:31:01 Neva 09:31:26 ty plowsof for saving me from the google 09:31:57 * hanser[m] uploaded an image: (100KiB) < https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/matrix.org/WqqWTAMoKuUFFYuOXkMKRhcL/image.png > 09:31:59 It may use 4 hours😒 09:32:15 hanser you said you have a Windows machine, please tell me you know monero workson windows 09:33:17 Yes, but I have an experiment later that requires running on Linux, so I have to do it on a virtual machine. 09:40:12 noo 09:40:27 have to>> want to 09:41:03 you should just use linux on the metal though 09:41:26 10gb free... you can get256gb ssd for like $30 09:46:44 bought a 1TB M.2 for 39€ recently 09:47:15 Storage cost is falling of a cliff rn 09:50:35 Yeah supply chain issue is gone 10:13:42 main issue for me (i assume most) isnt the price. if there was a 4TB ssd sitting on my desk here... i'd set it up tomorrow(tm) 10:14:10 now if only dedicated server providers started giving us discounts 10:16:11 main issue is that security is hard 10:16:33 and you want to be absolutely sure that everything is configured properly when exposing stuff to the interwebs 13:35:58 hinto: can i just restart the vanity miner or will i lose progress? i assume its like mining regularly and just probability so shouldnt matter 13:36:42 * monerobull[m] uploaded an image: (43KiB) < https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/matrix.org/ekCUvgULzzkhUJNtJsOnFywo/grafik.png > 13:45:20 monerobull: yes you can restart the vanity miner 13:45:27 and yes, it's like mining 16:10:27 Can anyone explain why https://monero.fail/map now shows about 8,000 more nodes than it did a week ago? What did the site owner change such that more nodes are now displayed? 16:15:58 i wouldnt dare ping the owner directly, or click contact -> see a twitter with a github repo link -> that has monero.fail pinned 16:16:17 https://libera.monerologs.net/monero/20230406#c231804 16:21:18 (or has the reason explained in the top tweet) lol 16:26:44 "seth RIP. traitor" <- Why is he traitor? Did I miss something? 16:28:51 @guruji: He work for some bitcoin wallet 16:30:03 guruji[m]: Out of context overused sarcastic meme 16:30:34 "Really, using i2p for monero..." <- I believe that high latency networks like Nym or Xx will be the future of the anonymous communication. Let's see the development. 16:38:43 some person from this group is messaging me personally and offering crypto related schemes 16:39:33 definitely a scammer 16:39:43 yeah 16:40:03 before he exposes me, listen 16:40:03 been a while since I've seen of those here on matrix 16:40:09 Mr. Nice offering me trading strategies 16:40:24 oh right mr nice, yep scammer, ignore^ 16:41:20 that should go without saying, anyone offering you trading strategies, anywhere, is a scammer 16:41:52 Mr Nice : ? 16:43:30 "i can't download the whole..." <- You can download whole Blockchain. Use external storage like SD Card, USB. The 256 GB ones are not bank breaking. 16:48:17 "oh right mr nice, yep scammer..." <- can confirm. he also doesn't like nohello.net for some reason 17:19:14 " I once looked at..." <- My point is not necessarily "they did not use Monero." My point more of "Monero should be the 'go-to' tool for these protesters." Not bitcoin first, and then they also put up an XMR address, due to one of our guys nagging on twitter. But, XMR first and foremost, because they know it is associated with revolutionary politics. 17:20:33 But before that, they should "know" about Monero. And that's where shilling comes. Also that's where Monero's hoped-for Silk Road moment comes: an action on the ground that makes use of Monero for outsider-politics in such a novel way that you cannot look away, nor can you ignore. 17:21:29 "k4r4b3y thinks mollys monero..." <- I know great number of many things/\. 17:28:05 "But before that, they should "..." <- One example of that, from my perspective, was in one MoneroTalk episode, in which one Dutch dude showcased his casino project on Minecraft. 17:28:46 On a fucking Minecraft. Here it is. A genius outsider, coming in, and absolutely screwing up the whole anti-gambling laws. 17:29:11 And doing this in a way that even fucking toddlers can use, and gamble! 17:30:23 This Dutch dude had a whole array of casino games available on Minecraft, using Minecraft's in-game logic. It had its own random number generation for games of luck for fairness. It had pig races. It had slot machines. You were buying in-game casino chips with XMR. And you were getting paid your loot in XMR. 17:31:26 It is as beautiful is as funny. It mocks the whole bureacracy and politics establishment of "the whole world" ! 17:31:44 And does it so from a computer. Available anywhere, and is located nowhere. 17:31:55 Reachable by all, hidden in plain sight. 17:32:34 It is daring the whole political establishment to do something in reaction to itself. But what can these old men and women of the state can do?! 17:36:27 "My point is not necessarily "..." <- "they" added xmr because of twitter nagging 17:36:27 oh boy 17:38:08 truckers still dont know what xmr is. the entire rally was cucked by design 17:38:08 facepalm at anyone who gives credit to that scam distraction 17:39:27 its obv not common knowledge who represents what 17:39:27 maybe 5% of those truckers were indeoendent 17:39:36 the rest was a choreographed performance 17:40:19 a setup 18:30:11 "This Dutch dude had a whole..." <- Do you have any link to this Minecraft service? Interesting 😎 18:30:59 "You can download whole Blockchai..." <- i have a potato pc basically , it can't handle high ram tasks. 18:30:59 Also do i need to keep the external sd card connected every time ? 18:32:36 nobody is forcing you to run a node 18:32:37 "use a trusted remote node" <- . 18:35:10 a 256 ssd isnt bank breaking either 18:35:22 skip the sd card 18:36:45 > <@karano:poddery.com> i have a potato pc basically , it can't handle high ram tasks. 18:36:45 > Also do i need to keep the external sd card connected every time ? 18:36:45 Normally yes. If you do XMR like $20 transactions, use remote nodes. If you are serious about it, or use XMR more frequently, higher volumes, run node yourself. 18:36:45 If you had a local node on SD Card or USB, you have to attach it every time you would like to use the wallet and sync it first. 18:36:50 "Do you have any link to this..." <- I took a quick look at the monero talk's youtube, but couldn't spot the video 18:37:01 it was an episode that came out like 2 yrs ago 18:37:51 ah yeah, it was called "bitvegas" 18:38:06 just google it, you will see some /r/Monero announcements 18:38:15 that should be enough of an entry to the rabbit hole 18:39:21 volumes dont matter. whether you spend 1$ or 100k 18:39:21 theres nothing wrong with someone using a TRUSTED remote node for everything, particularly if its an onion or i2p node 18:39:46 oh, found the monerotalk episode: https://piped.video/watch?v=ZSSmRZ-ylRA 18:40:26 keyword: trusted. 18:40:26 probably 90% of cake wallet users dont run nodes 18:40:31 the episode lists bitvegas.org as the website 18:40:46 which is defunct now 18:40:50 sad 18:42:14 k4r4b3y[m]: watch this from minute 10 and onward. He walks you through the virtual casino in minecraft that uses XMR. 18:43:07 > If you had a local node on SD Card or USB, you have to attach it every time you would like to use the wallet and sync it first. 18:43:08 ^ bad 18:43:48 true, but kinda stupid if the idea is to be extra private 18:44:54 your a million time better off exposing a new connction to TOR than shouting out to the workd MY NODE CAME ONLINE LONG ENOUGH TO SYNC AND SEND 1 TX 18:46:03 nodes run on plenty of hardware 18:46:13 maybe node is best to be run on a vps so that i can be left running 24/7 18:46:28 you dont need a computer running 24/7 to run a node. anything with android shoukd work (old phones tabkets android tv boxes) 18:46:41 s/so/and/, s/that/to/, s/i can// 18:46:53 ohh πŸ€” 18:47:08 personally im not paying a vps to host a node unless im hosting it for a lot of people aside from myself 18:47:25 but which old hardware has 90gb space 18:47:36 external ssd 18:48:14 ok , but do i need to keep it running and connected to internet ? 18:49:05 yes 18:50:31 would also need to configure port forwarding and static ip stuff then 18:51:01 for android on wifi, yeah but super easy 18:51:08 android tv on ethernet, probably not 18:51:52 ofrnxmr[m]: static wifi ip can be done on android easily from the wifi network setting 18:52:35 oh 18:53:26 so i will connect to the node locally , and have to use the wallet while within the network then. 18:53:44 no 18:53:49 not if y(u port forward 18:53:53 * so i have to connect to the node locally , and have to use the wallet while within the network then. 18:54:13 can access from anywhere 18:54:28 yeah , but then purchase static ip from isp 18:54:36 no 18:54:48 dont need one, if it changes just change it :p 18:55:06 xD 18:55:26 also can easily setup an onion 18:55:38 so port forwarding is 100% unnecessary 18:56:07 and static ip = your onion 18:56:42 ye with onion , no domain , no static ip etc 18:56:51 k4r4by wasnt that minecraft thing dumb af, like you deposited your funds to 1 wallet he owned 18:56:58 s/,/-/ 18:57:08 the future p2p electronic e cash 18:58:26 seths replacement is 5 stars 19:01:37 plowsof11: you tried? 19:12:42 On September 6, 2013, a user logged into BitVegas and exploited a vulnerability in CraftBukkit to log into the server as other players and withdraw their funds. About 7 bitcoins were stolen, worth about $1,000 at the time. The lost money was reimbursed by BitVegas. 19:13:13 do you have any idea wtf you are talking about 19:16:29 never 19:16:59 I think we are tlaking about different bitvegas stuff 19:17:11 there seems to be bitvegas.io that is unrelated to what I am talking about 19:18:31 whatever incantation you are talking about, same crap - even in the video doug presses him twice , and he says "just join and you get free monero to gamble" 19:18:50 its like reinventing the wheel - but with corners 19:40:41 MajesticBank MajesticBank Please check the Discord for the MAGIC Monero Fund asap 20:30:40 "a setup" <- In your opinion, who is/was behind the Trucker protest "play" 20:31:25 i couldnt tell you my opinion 20:34:18 if the question was "who was behind it", thats a diff q and one i can answr, though not necessarily one that needs to be shared with anyone who cant do anything about it 20:35:11 ok I'll rephrase the question, "who was behind it?" 20:37:56 the short answer, the government 20:37:56 the longer short answer, the mob 20:37:56 the longer answer draw conclusions 20:37:56 the facts, dive in and get your feet dirty 21:14:33 jews 21:19:51 That escalated quick Kanye 21:26:54 Holy duck sorry i been quick replying from phone and didn't notice sorry 21:32:42 antisemitism will not be tolerated great_taste 21:56:28 ? 22:01:39 it's very telling that just saying "jews" is enough to get people triggered and receive threats, get kicked, banned, cancelled. I have been trying to understand why is that :) 22:03:16 what I have learned so far is that the Israeli state is an incredibly filthy and criminal organization and jews generally support it, so that is why 22:13:36 He didn't have very great_taste πŸ˜‚ 22:31:26 Does anyone know why AppImageLauncher doesn’t recognize the v0.18.2.2 AppImage as an AppImage? 22:31:36 I’m on Ubuntu 22.10 23:06:17 its not an appimage 23:06:29 its just a bash file that launches the binary 23:07:44 right click > open in text editor 23:07:44 its just 23:07:44 `./monero-wallet-gui` 23:12:56 Howdy, I have a ubuntu server with monerod p2pool & xmrig installed. I want these to run as services on boot. Is there a guide for that somewhere out there? 23:22:44 If you can't start the appimage, try right clicking on it, going to the properties and enabling that it can be run as executable 23:55:50 The AppImage will start but I can’t get it to register as a desktop application and when I run sudo monero-wallet-gui it launches v0.18.1.2 23:57:28 You need to sudo it directly from the directory the exe is in my dude 23:58:06 chmod +x monero-wallet-gui 23:58:07 I’m in the v0.18.2.2 directory 23:58:12 ./monero-wallet-gui 23:58:25 no need to execute wallet as root 23:58:38 And that won't work for you? 23:58:47 Well from my experience P2Pool wouldn’t work unless I ran the wallet from root 23:59:27 then you do, it's safe app anyway 23:59:37 If there’s a way around that I’d be more than happy to run as user